Re: [WebDNA] Sort Direction matches the written to file order

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2015


It keeps the original formatting.
numero = 112102
interpreted = N
texte = --Apple-Mail=_F6BB4EEC-37C0-46E9-885E-B05B87943C58 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Hi Stuart I agree I could rewrite them but it would be =E2=80=A6 you know =E2=80=A6 = not the kind of work you long for :) Your suggestion of trying =E2=80=A6 rank=3D=E2=80=9Casc=E2=80=9D etc. = does NOT work :) /Palle > On 11/02/2015, at 08.58, Stuart Tremain wrote: >=20 > Palle >=20 > You could rewrite the dbs with the new field. >=20 > But I agree, expansion of rank=3D=E2=80=9Coff=E2=80=9D would be good. >=20 > Out of interest have you tried to see if rank=3D=E2=80=9Casc=E2=80=9D = & rank=3D=E2=80=9Cdes=E2=80=9D work - they may be undocumented. >=20 >=20 > Kind regards >=20 > Stuart Tremain > IDFK Web Developments > AUSTRALIA > webdna@idfk.com.au >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >> On 11 Feb 2015, at 6:53 pm, Palle Bo Nielsen = > wrote: >>=20 >> Hi Stuart >>=20 >> Thanks - all though I am aware of the Autonumber functionality, it = only works when a new row is written to DB and I have have several = DB=E2=80=99s without any chronological index=E2=80=99es unfortunately. I = could develop a mechanism which populates all my DB=E2=80=99s (one by = one) which populates them using the Autonumber function, but it would be = a hassle an take a lot of time to process. A build in =E2=80=98Reverse=3DT= rue=E2=80=99 would be a perfect solution.=20 >>=20 >> Is still see the need of a WebDNA Function which can help here... >>=20 >>=20 >> Palle...: >>> Wouldn=E2=80=99t it be logical if the reverse approach were = achievable >>> also instead of doing a TABLE and then REVERSE the output? >>=20 >> Kenneth Grome...: >> Absolutely, and this is something I have wished for forever. >> Something as simple as "reverse=3DT" to be interpreted only when >> "rank=3Doff" is used might be an easy way to do it. >>=20 >>=20 >> Christophe. What is your view on this challenge/possibility? >>=20 >> /Palle >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>> On 10/02/2015, at 23.24, Stuart Tremain > wrote: >>>=20 >>> Put another field in you db named SORTORDER which could be populated = AUTONUMBER=3DSORTORDER this will be populated from 1 - n >>>=20 >>> Then just do a normal sort on SORTORDER >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> Kind regards >>>=20 >>> Stuart Tremain >>> IDFK Web Developments >>> AUSTRALIA >>> webdna@idfk.com.au >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>> On 11 Feb 2015, at 2:49 am, Palle Bo Nielsen = > wrote: >>>>=20 >>>> I agree. >>>>=20 >>>> But some of my index mechanism are not chronologic and as such can = not be used. Like for instance [cart] which sometimes ads a character or = two extra. >>>>=20 >>>> The WebDNA core functionality would be very helpful here. >>>>=20 >>>> /Palle >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>> On 10/02/2015, at 16.45, Stephen Reiss > wrote: >>>>>=20 >>>>> You could always add an index number to the records. That would = make it simple to sort in either direction. >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>> On Feb 10, 2015, at 12:43 PM, Palle Bo Nielsen = > wrote: >>>>>=20 >>>>>> Hi Tom >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> That did the trick, thanks. >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> Wouldn=E2=80=99t it be logical if the reverse approach were = achievable also in stead of doing a TABLE and then REVERSE the output? >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> I often work with databases with more than one million rows and = multiple fields associated and it would be a hassle to do that kind of = work around and a waste of memory. >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> Christophe, are you aware of an easier solution or could the = Reverse Sorting order be a candidate for the next WebDNA release. I find = this very attractive=E2=80=A6 Any opinion from any other on the List? >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> /Palle >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> On 10/02/2015, at 15.52, Tom Duke > wrote: >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> Palle, >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> Hi - my recollection is that you don't specify a sort order but = do add "&rank=3Doff" to the search string. Then the data should display = as written in the db. >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> You would probably have to generate a table in reverse order and = search that to get the reversed order. >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> - Tom >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------- This = message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . = To unsubscribe, E-mail to: archives: = http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us = Bug Reporting: = support@webdna.us >>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------- This = message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . = To unsubscribe, E-mail to: archives: = http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us = Bug Reporting: = support@webdna.us = ------------------------------------------------= --------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the = mailing list . 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Hi Stuart

I agree I could rewrite = them but it would be =E2=80=A6 you know =E2=80=A6 not the kind of work = you long for :)

Your suggestion of trying =E2=80=A6 rank=3D=E2=80=9Casc=E2=80=9D= etc. does NOT work :)

/Palle


On = 11/02/2015, at 08.58, Stuart Tremain <webdna@idfk.com.au> = wrote:

Palle

You could rewrite the = dbs with the new field.

But I agree, expansion of rank=3D=E2=80=9Coff=E2=80=9D would = be good.

Out = of interest have you tried to see if rank=3D=E2=80=9Casc=E2=80=9D & = rank=3D=E2=80=9Cdes=E2=80=9D work - they may be undocumented.


Kind regards

Stuart Tremain
IDFK Web = Developments
AUSTRALIA
webdna@idfk.com.au





On 11 Feb 2015, at 6:53 pm, Palle Bo Nielsen <powerpalle@powerpalle.dk> wrote:

Hi Stuart

Thanks - all though I am aware of the Autonumber = functionality, it only works when a new row is written to DB and I have = have several DB=E2=80=99s without any chronological index=E2=80=99es = unfortunately. I could develop a mechanism which populates all my DB=E2=80= =99s (one by one) which populates them using the Autonumber function, = but it would be a hassle an take a lot of time to process. A build in = =E2=80=98Reverse=3DTrue=E2=80=99 would be a perfect = solution. 

Is still see the need of a WebDNA Function which can help = here...


Palle...:
Wouldn=E2=80=99t it be = logical if the reverse approach were achievable
also = instead of doing a TABLE and then REVERSE the output?

Kenneth = Grome...:
Absolutely, and this is something I have wished = for forever.
Something as simple as "reverse=3DT" to be = interpreted only when
"rank=3Doff" is used might be an = easy way to do it.


Christophe. What is your = view on this challenge/possibility?

/Palle





On = 10/02/2015, at 23.24, Stuart Tremain <webdna@idfk.com.au> = wrote:

Put another = field in you db named SORTORDER which could be populated = AUTONUMBER=3DSORTORDER this will be populated from 1 - n

Then just do a normal = sort on SORTORDER


Kind regards

Stuart Tremain
IDFK Web = Developments
AUSTRALIA
webdna@idfk.com.au





On 11 Feb 2015, at 2:49 am, Palle Bo Nielsen <powerpalle@powerpalle.dk> wrote:

I agree.

But some of my index mechanism are not chronologic and as = such can not be used. Like for instance [cart] which sometimes ads a = character or two extra.

The WebDNA core functionality would be very helpful = here.

/Palle


On 10/02/2015, at 16.45, Stephen Reiss <wineguy@mac.com> = wrote:

You could always = add an index number to the records. That would make it simple to sort in = either direction.



On Feb 10, 2015, at 12:43 PM, Palle Bo Nielsen = <powerpalle@powerpalle.dk> wrote:

Hi = Tom

That did = the trick, thanks.

Wouldn=E2=80=99t it be logical if the reverse approach were = achievable also in stead of doing a TABLE and then REVERSE the = output?

I = often work with databases with more than one million rows and multiple = fields associated and it would be a hassle to do that kind of work = around and a waste of memory.

Christophe, are you aware of an easier = solution or could the Reverse Sorting order be a candidate for the next = WebDNA release. I find this very attractive=E2=80=A6 Any opinion from = any other on the List?

/Palle



On 10/02/2015, at 15.52, Tom = Duke <tom@revolutionaries.ie> wrote:

Palle,

Hi = - my recollection is that you don't specify a sort order but do add = "&rank=3Doff" to the search string.  Then the data should = display as written in the db.

You would probably have to generate a = table in reverse order and search that to get the reversed = order.

- = Tom



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  1. Re: [WebDNA] Sort Direction matches the written to file order (christophe.billiottet@webdna.us 2015)
  2. Re: [WebDNA] Sort Direction matches the written to file order (Palle Bo Nielsen 2015)
  3. Re: [WebDNA] Sort Direction matches the written to file order (Stuart Tremain 2015)
  4. Re: [WebDNA] Sort Direction matches the written to file order (Palle Bo Nielsen 2015)
  5. Re: [WebDNA] Sort Direction matches the written to file order (Stuart Tremain 2015)
  6. Re: [WebDNA] Sort Direction matches the written to file order (Kenneth Grome 2015)
  7. Re: [WebDNA] Sort Direction matches the written to file order (Palle Bo Nielsen 2015)
  8. Re: [WebDNA] Sort Direction matches the written to file order (Stephen Reiss 2015)
  9. Re: [WebDNA] Sort Direction matches the written to file order (Palle Bo Nielsen 2015)
  10. Re: [WebDNA] Sort Direction matches the written to file order (Tom Duke 2015)
  11. [WebDNA] Sort Direction matches the written to file order (Palle Bo Nielsen 2015)
--Apple-Mail=_F6BB4EEC-37C0-46E9-885E-B05B87943C58 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Hi Stuart I agree I could rewrite them but it would be =E2=80=A6 you know =E2=80=A6 = not the kind of work you long for :) Your suggestion of trying =E2=80=A6 rank=3D=E2=80=9Casc=E2=80=9D etc. = does NOT work :) /Palle > On 11/02/2015, at 08.58, Stuart Tremain wrote: >=20 > Palle >=20 > You could rewrite the dbs with the new field. >=20 > But I agree, expansion of rank=3D=E2=80=9Coff=E2=80=9D would be good. >=20 > Out of interest have you tried to see if rank=3D=E2=80=9Casc=E2=80=9D = & rank=3D=E2=80=9Cdes=E2=80=9D work - they may be undocumented. >=20 >=20 > Kind regards >=20 > Stuart Tremain > IDFK Web Developments > AUSTRALIA > webdna@idfk.com.au >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >> On 11 Feb 2015, at 6:53 pm, Palle Bo Nielsen = > wrote: >>=20 >> Hi Stuart >>=20 >> Thanks - all though I am aware of the Autonumber functionality, it = only works when a new row is written to DB and I have have several = DB=E2=80=99s without any chronological index=E2=80=99es unfortunately. I = could develop a mechanism which populates all my DB=E2=80=99s (one by = one) which populates them using the Autonumber function, but it would be = a hassle an take a lot of time to process. A build in =E2=80=98Reverse=3DT= rue=E2=80=99 would be a perfect solution.=20 >>=20 >> Is still see the need of a WebDNA Function which can help here... >>=20 >>=20 >> Palle...: >>> Wouldn=E2=80=99t it be logical if the reverse approach were = achievable >>> also instead of doing a TABLE and then REVERSE the output? >>=20 >> Kenneth Grome...: >> Absolutely, and this is something I have wished for forever. >> Something as simple as "reverse=3DT" to be interpreted only when >> "rank=3Doff" is used might be an easy way to do it. >>=20 >>=20 >> Christophe. What is your view on this challenge/possibility? >>=20 >> /Palle >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>> On 10/02/2015, at 23.24, Stuart Tremain > wrote: >>>=20 >>> Put another field in you db named SORTORDER which could be populated = AUTONUMBER=3DSORTORDER this will be populated from 1 - n >>>=20 >>> Then just do a normal sort on SORTORDER >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> Kind regards >>>=20 >>> Stuart Tremain >>> IDFK Web Developments >>> AUSTRALIA >>> webdna@idfk.com.au >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>> On 11 Feb 2015, at 2:49 am, Palle Bo Nielsen = > wrote: >>>>=20 >>>> I agree. >>>>=20 >>>> But some of my index mechanism are not chronologic and as such can = not be used. Like for instance [cart] which sometimes ads a character or = two extra. >>>>=20 >>>> The WebDNA core functionality would be very helpful here. >>>>=20 >>>> /Palle >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>> On 10/02/2015, at 16.45, Stephen Reiss > wrote: >>>>>=20 >>>>> You could always add an index number to the records. That would = make it simple to sort in either direction. >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>> On Feb 10, 2015, at 12:43 PM, Palle Bo Nielsen = > wrote: >>>>>=20 >>>>>> Hi Tom >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> That did the trick, thanks. >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> Wouldn=E2=80=99t it be logical if the reverse approach were = achievable also in stead of doing a TABLE and then REVERSE the output? >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> I often work with databases with more than one million rows and = multiple fields associated and it would be a hassle to do that kind of = work around and a waste of memory. >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> Christophe, are you aware of an easier solution or could the = Reverse Sorting order be a candidate for the next WebDNA release. I find = this very attractive=E2=80=A6 Any opinion from any other on the List? >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> /Palle >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> On 10/02/2015, at 15.52, Tom Duke > wrote: >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> Palle, >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> Hi - my recollection is that you don't specify a sort order but = do add "&rank=3Doff" to the search string. Then the data should display = as written in the db. >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> You would probably have to generate a table in reverse order and = search that to get the reversed order. >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> - Tom >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------- This = message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . = To unsubscribe, E-mail to: archives: = http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us = Bug Reporting: = support@webdna.us >>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------- This = message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . = To unsubscribe, E-mail to: archives: = http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us = Bug Reporting: = support@webdna.us = ------------------------------------------------= --------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the = mailing list . 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Hi Stuart

I agree I could rewrite = them but it would be =E2=80=A6 you know =E2=80=A6 not the kind of work = you long for :)

Your suggestion of trying =E2=80=A6 rank=3D=E2=80=9Casc=E2=80=9D= etc. does NOT work :)

/Palle


On = 11/02/2015, at 08.58, Stuart Tremain <webdna@idfk.com.au> = wrote:

Palle

You could rewrite the = dbs with the new field.

But I agree, expansion of rank=3D=E2=80=9Coff=E2=80=9D would = be good.

Out = of interest have you tried to see if rank=3D=E2=80=9Casc=E2=80=9D & = rank=3D=E2=80=9Cdes=E2=80=9D work - they may be undocumented.


Kind regards

Stuart Tremain
IDFK Web = Developments
AUSTRALIA
webdna@idfk.com.au





On 11 Feb 2015, at 6:53 pm, Palle Bo Nielsen <powerpalle@powerpalle.dk> wrote:

Hi Stuart

Thanks - all though I am aware of the Autonumber = functionality, it only works when a new row is written to DB and I have = have several DB=E2=80=99s without any chronological index=E2=80=99es = unfortunately. I could develop a mechanism which populates all my DB=E2=80= =99s (one by one) which populates them using the Autonumber function, = but it would be a hassle an take a lot of time to process. A build in = =E2=80=98Reverse=3DTrue=E2=80=99 would be a perfect = solution. 

Is still see the need of a WebDNA Function which can help = here...


Palle...:
Wouldn=E2=80=99t it be = logical if the reverse approach were achievable
also = instead of doing a TABLE and then REVERSE the output?

Kenneth = Grome...:
Absolutely, and this is something I have wished = for forever.
Something as simple as "reverse=3DT" to be = interpreted only when
"rank=3Doff" is used might be an = easy way to do it.


Christophe. What is your = view on this challenge/possibility?

/Palle





On = 10/02/2015, at 23.24, Stuart Tremain <webdna@idfk.com.au> = wrote:

Put another = field in you db named SORTORDER which could be populated = AUTONUMBER=3DSORTORDER this will be populated from 1 - n

Then just do a normal = sort on SORTORDER


Kind regards

Stuart Tremain
IDFK Web = Developments
AUSTRALIA
webdna@idfk.com.au





On 11 Feb 2015, at 2:49 am, Palle Bo Nielsen <powerpalle@powerpalle.dk> wrote:

I agree.

But some of my index mechanism are not chronologic and as = such can not be used. Like for instance [cart] which sometimes ads a = character or two extra.

The WebDNA core functionality would be very helpful = here.

/Palle


On 10/02/2015, at 16.45, Stephen Reiss <wineguy@mac.com> = wrote:

You could always = add an index number to the records. That would make it simple to sort in = either direction.



On Feb 10, 2015, at 12:43 PM, Palle Bo Nielsen = <powerpalle@powerpalle.dk> wrote:

Hi = Tom

That did = the trick, thanks.

Wouldn=E2=80=99t it be logical if the reverse approach were = achievable also in stead of doing a TABLE and then REVERSE the = output?

I = often work with databases with more than one million rows and multiple = fields associated and it would be a hassle to do that kind of work = around and a waste of memory.

Christophe, are you aware of an easier = solution or could the Reverse Sorting order be a candidate for the next = WebDNA release. I find this very attractive=E2=80=A6 Any opinion from = any other on the List?

/Palle



On 10/02/2015, at 15.52, Tom = Duke <tom@revolutionaries.ie> wrote:

Palle,

Hi = - my recollection is that you don't specify a sort order but do add = "&rank=3Doff" to the search string.  Then the data should = display as written in the db.

You would probably have to generate a = table in reverse order and search that to get the reversed = order.

- = Tom



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