Re: [WebDNA] Just drop the Server version
This WebDNA talk-list message is from 2015
It keeps the original formatting.
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texte = "It starts to fall off the rails a little as web projects get bigger" I totally disagree with this statement. In 1997 I started to engineer a CMS built on top of SiteBuilder. By 2008 that CMS had grown unmanageable and slow. So it was rebuild line by line using the experience gained from the first 11 years. Even my first generation CMS did some pretty amazing things. When I've pitched my CMS against others, the speed and functionality I have wins. I don't want to start an argument or a debate here, I just don't want any new WebDNA users to get the wrong idea if they happen to read this thread. -Matt On 2/10/2015 10:01 PM, Brian Burton wrote: > Getting rid of the server version makes WebDNA a less attractive language. > > Let me explain. WebDNA’s databases system is very easy to use for web programmers of simple to moderate web sites. It starts to fall off the rails a little as web projects get bigger, but for those of us that love the simplicity of WebDNA, we find ways to make it work (using the globals folder to have path agnostic databases, sharding databases to make them small and speedy, etc) > > My understanding of the FCGI is it starts a process and loads into memory the databases it needs for 1 domain(website). Multiple instances of the FCI to support multiple front ends for one set of databases (via a shared universal globals folder (is that even possible with the FCGI?) would cause all sorts of data inconsistency problems. > > Brian B. Burton > > >> On Feb 10, 2015, at 10:01 AM, Kenneth Grome
wrote: >> >> Hi tom, >> >> Fortunately you have a brand new Server version 8.0.2 that works >> for you now, and I suspect that this version will hold you for >> another 5-10 years, even if no new Server version were ever >> developed or released, correct? >> >> Another issue here is that if WSC would make "^" work in the >> FastCGI version (the way it works in the Server version) you'd be >> able to run the FastCGI version for your CMS, correct? >> >> When I suggested no more development on the Server version I was >> offering a supporting option for Chris' goal when he said: >> >> "We want to keep things as simple as possible." >> >> One way to dramatically simplify WSC's software development work >> (and save a ton of money) is to stop developing all versions >> except one. And since the FastCGI version runs on the most >> popular servers on the web these days, it would seem to "make >> sense" to continue to develop only the FastCGI version. >> >> I think Chris has finally gotten WSC back on-track for success >> again. We are certainly seeing more development now than during >> the previous two or three years! I would hate to see all this new >> development 'disappear' because the company tries to stretch their >> resources too thin. >> >> This is a hard decision, I know, but sometimes hard decisions must >> be made in order for a company to survive. And I for one would >> like to see the company not just survive but thrive! >> >> Regards, >> Kenneth Grome >> WebDNA Solutions >> http://www.webdnasolutions.com >> Web Database Systems and Linux Server Management > --------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us > Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us > > > > -- > Matthew A Perosi > Corporate Consultant > Mobile Marketing Expert > Senior Web Developer > SEO Analyst & Educator > matt@psiprime.com > > Psi Prime, Inc. > 323 Union Blvd. > Totowa, NJ 07512 > > Direct: 888.872.0274 > Fax: 888.488.5924 > > http://www.perosi.com
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"It starts to fall off the rails a little as web projects get bigger" I totally disagree with this statement. In 1997 I started to engineer a CMS built on top of SiteBuilder. By 2008 that CMS had grown unmanageable and slow. So it was rebuild line by line using the experience gained from the first 11 years. Even my first generation CMS did some pretty amazing things. When I've pitched my CMS against others, the speed and functionality I have wins. I don't want to start an argument or a debate here, I just don't want any new WebDNA users to get the wrong idea if they happen to read this thread. -Matt On 2/10/2015 10:01 PM, Brian Burton wrote: > Getting rid of the server version makes WebDNA a less attractive language. > > Let me explain. WebDNA’s databases system is very easy to use for web programmers of simple to moderate web sites. It starts to fall off the rails a little as web projects get bigger, but for those of us that love the simplicity of WebDNA, we find ways to make it work (using the globals folder to have path agnostic databases, sharding databases to make them small and speedy, etc) > > My understanding of the FCGI is it starts a process and loads into memory the databases it needs for 1 domain(website). Multiple instances of the FCI to support multiple front ends for one set of databases (via a shared universal globals folder (is that even possible with the FCGI?) would cause all sorts of data inconsistency problems. > > Brian B. Burton > > >> On Feb 10, 2015, at 10:01 AM, Kenneth Grome wrote: >> >> Hi tom, >> >> Fortunately you have a brand new Server version 8.0.2 that works >> for you now, and I suspect that this version will hold you for >> another 5-10 years, even if no new Server version were ever >> developed or released, correct? >> >> Another issue here is that if WSC would make "^" work in the >> FastCGI version (the way it works in the Server version) you'd be >> able to run the FastCGI version for your CMS, correct? >> >> When I suggested no more development on the Server version I was >> offering a supporting option for Chris' goal when he said: >> >> "We want to keep things as simple as possible." >> >> One way to dramatically simplify WSC's software development work >> (and save a ton of money) is to stop developing all versions >> except one. And since the FastCGI version runs on the most >> popular servers on the web these days, it would seem to "make >> sense" to continue to develop only the FastCGI version. >> >> I think Chris has finally gotten WSC back on-track for success >> again. We are certainly seeing more development now than during >> the previous two or three years! I would hate to see all this new >> development 'disappear' because the company tries to stretch their >> resources too thin. >> >> This is a hard decision, I know, but sometimes hard decisions must >> be made in order for a company to survive. And I for one would >> like to see the company not just survive but thrive! >> >> Regards, >> Kenneth Grome >> WebDNA Solutions >> http://www.webdnasolutions.com >> Web Database Systems and Linux Server Management > --------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us > Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us > > > > -- > Matthew A Perosi > Corporate Consultant > Mobile Marketing Expert > Senior Web Developer > SEO Analyst & Educator > matt@psiprime.com > > Psi Prime, Inc. > 323 Union Blvd. > Totowa, NJ 07512 > > Direct: 888.872.0274 > Fax: 888.488.5924 > > http://www.perosi.com
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