Re: [WebDNA] Just drop the Server version
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It keeps the original formatting.
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texte = --001a11c29d4618bd53050ed42a04 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I don't think we need to worry about new users, Matt ;-p -Dan Strong http://danstrong.com
http://sw.amphou.se On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 4:56 AM, Matthew A Perosi, Psi Prime < matt@psiprime.com> wrote: > "It starts to fall off the rails a little as web projects get bigger" > > I totally disagree with this statement. > > In 1997 I started to engineer a CMS built on top of SiteBuilder. By 2008 > that CMS had grown unmanageable and slow. So it was rebuild line by line > using the experience gained from the first 11 years. > > Even my first generation CMS did some pretty amazing things. When I've > pitched my CMS against others, the speed and functionality I have wins. > > I don't want to start an argument or a debate here, I just don't want any > new WebDNA users to get the wrong idea if they happen to read this thread= . > > > -Matt > > > > > > On 2/10/2015 10:01 PM, Brian Burton wrote: > >> Getting rid of the server version makes WebDNA a less attractive languag= e. >> >> Let me explain. WebDNA=E2=80=99s databases system is very easy to use fo= r web >> programmers of simple to moderate web sites. It starts to fall off the >> rails a little as web projects get bigger, but for those of us that love >> the simplicity of WebDNA, we find ways to make it work (using the global= s >> folder to have path agnostic databases, sharding databases to make them >> small and speedy, etc) >> >> My understanding of the FCGI is it starts a process and loads into memor= y >> the databases it needs for 1 domain(website). Multiple instances of the = FCI >> to support multiple front ends for one set of databases (via a shared >> universal globals folder (is that even possible with the FCGI?) would ca= use >> all sorts of data inconsistency problems. >> >> Brian B. Burton >> >> >> On Feb 10, 2015, at 10:01 AM, Kenneth Grome >>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi tom, >>> >>> Fortunately you have a brand new Server version 8.0.2 that works >>> for you now, and I suspect that this version will hold you for >>> another 5-10 years, even if no new Server version were ever >>> developed or released, correct? >>> >>> Another issue here is that if WSC would make "^" work in the >>> FastCGI version (the way it works in the Server version) you'd be >>> able to run the FastCGI version for your CMS, correct? >>> >>> When I suggested no more development on the Server version I was >>> offering a supporting option for Chris' goal when he said: >>> >>> "We want to keep things as simple as possible." >>> >>> One way to dramatically simplify WSC's software development work >>> (and save a ton of money) is to stop developing all versions >>> except one. And since the FastCGI version runs on the most >>> popular servers on the web these days, it would seem to "make >>> sense" to continue to develop only the FastCGI version. >>> >>> I think Chris has finally gotten WSC back on-track for success >>> again. We are certainly seeing more development now than during >>> the previous two or three years! I would hate to see all this new >>> development 'disappear' because the company tries to stretch their >>> resources too thin. >>> >>> This is a hard decision, I know, but sometimes hard decisions must >>> be made in order for a company to survive. And I for one would >>> like to see the company not just survive but thrive! >>> >>> Regards, >>> Kenneth Grome >>> WebDNA Solutions >>> http://www.webdnasolutions.com >>> Web Database Systems and Linux Server Management >>> >> --------------------------------------------------------- >> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >> the mailing list . >> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >> >> >> >> -- >> Matthew A Perosi >> Corporate Consultant >> Mobile Marketing Expert >> Senior Web Developer >> SEO Analyst & Educator >> matt@psiprime.com >> >> Psi Prime, Inc. >> 323 Union Blvd. >> Totowa, NJ 07512 >> >> Direct: 888.872.0274 >> Fax: 888.488.5924 >> >> http://www.perosi.com >> > --------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us > Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us > --001a11c29d4618bd53050ed42a04 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I don't think we need to worry about new users, Matt ;= -p
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--001a11c29d4618bd53050ed42a04 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I don't think we need to worry about new users, Matt ;-p -Dan Strong http://danstrong.com http://sw.amphou.se On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 4:56 AM, Matthew A Perosi, Psi Prime < matt@psiprime.com> wrote: > "It starts to fall off the rails a little as web projects get bigger" > > I totally disagree with this statement. > > In 1997 I started to engineer a CMS built on top of SiteBuilder. By 2008 > that CMS had grown unmanageable and slow. So it was rebuild line by line > using the experience gained from the first 11 years. > > Even my first generation CMS did some pretty amazing things. When I've > pitched my CMS against others, the speed and functionality I have wins. > > I don't want to start an argument or a debate here, I just don't want any > new WebDNA users to get the wrong idea if they happen to read this thread= . > > > -Matt > > > > > > On 2/10/2015 10:01 PM, Brian Burton wrote: > >> Getting rid of the server version makes WebDNA a less attractive languag= e. >> >> Let me explain. WebDNA=E2=80=99s databases system is very easy to use fo= r web >> programmers of simple to moderate web sites. It starts to fall off the >> rails a little as web projects get bigger, but for those of us that love >> the simplicity of WebDNA, we find ways to make it work (using the global= s >> folder to have path agnostic databases, sharding databases to make them >> small and speedy, etc) >> >> My understanding of the FCGI is it starts a process and loads into memor= y >> the databases it needs for 1 domain(website). Multiple instances of the = FCI >> to support multiple front ends for one set of databases (via a shared >> universal globals folder (is that even possible with the FCGI?) would ca= use >> all sorts of data inconsistency problems. >> >> Brian B. Burton >> >> >> On Feb 10, 2015, at 10:01 AM, Kenneth Grome >>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi tom, >>> >>> Fortunately you have a brand new Server version 8.0.2 that works >>> for you now, and I suspect that this version will hold you for >>> another 5-10 years, even if no new Server version were ever >>> developed or released, correct? >>> >>> Another issue here is that if WSC would make "^" work in the >>> FastCGI version (the way it works in the Server version) you'd be >>> able to run the FastCGI version for your CMS, correct? >>> >>> When I suggested no more development on the Server version I was >>> offering a supporting option for Chris' goal when he said: >>> >>> "We want to keep things as simple as possible." >>> >>> One way to dramatically simplify WSC's software development work >>> (and save a ton of money) is to stop developing all versions >>> except one. And since the FastCGI version runs on the most >>> popular servers on the web these days, it would seem to "make >>> sense" to continue to develop only the FastCGI version. >>> >>> I think Chris has finally gotten WSC back on-track for success >>> again. We are certainly seeing more development now than during >>> the previous two or three years! I would hate to see all this new >>> development 'disappear' because the company tries to stretch their >>> resources too thin. >>> >>> This is a hard decision, I know, but sometimes hard decisions must >>> be made in order for a company to survive. And I for one would >>> like to see the company not just survive but thrive! >>> >>> Regards, >>> Kenneth Grome >>> WebDNA Solutions >>> http://www.webdnasolutions.com >>> Web Database Systems and Linux Server Management >>> >> --------------------------------------------------------- >> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >> the mailing list . >> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >> >> >> >> -- >> Matthew A Perosi >> Corporate Consultant >> Mobile Marketing Expert >> Senior Web Developer >> SEO Analyst & Educator >> matt@psiprime.com >> >> Psi Prime, Inc. >> 323 Union Blvd. >> Totowa, NJ 07512 >> >> Direct: 888.872.0274 >> Fax: 888.488.5924 >> >> http://www.perosi.com >> > --------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us > Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us > --001a11c29d4618bd53050ed42a04 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I don't think we need to worry about new users, Matt ;= -p
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