Re: [WebDNA] Cacheing include files
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It keeps the original formatting.
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texte = Hi Brian, Not sure why this isn=92t the default=85 but this seems to work for me: in webdna.conf---------------------------- - add:
deny from all Then edit similar to:
AddType text/html .tpl .dna .inc AddHandler webcatalog2-handler .tpl .tmpl .html .htm .dna .inc ---------------------------------------------- Then =91service apache2 reload=92 HTH, Donovan On Mar 16, 2015, at 6:15 PM, Stuart Tremain
wrote: > Brian >=20 > If the .frag file is only ever to be included and displayed in an HTML = file why don=92t you use a SHOWIF. >=20 > At the top of the HTML a TEXT var i.e. [TEXT]SHOWFRAG=3DT[/TEXT], then = wrap the contents of the .frag=20 >=20 > [SHOWIF [SHOWFRAG]=3DT] > FRAG CONTENTS > [/SHOWIF] >=20 > Then if the .frag file is ever served the content will be nothing. >=20 >=20 > Kind regards >=20 > Stuart Tremain > IDFK Web Developments > AUSTRALIA > webdna@idfk.com.au >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >> On 17 Mar 2015, at 09:37, Brian Burton wrote: >>=20 >> Ken, >>=20 >> I=92m doing Ok on writing out the fragments, and using them as = [include]=92d content as needed. I do not write out a whole page of html = because I have personalized dynamic content on other parts of the page.=20= >>=20 >> The concern is have is, and why i don=92t want this mapped as a = template is that the webserver will serve up template files when = requested. i.e. if you have storefunctions.inc as a file, and someone is = savvy enough to request it, either it isn=92t mapped to webdna, and = Apache happily serves up your raw webdna as text to who ever ask for it = (bad) or if it is mapped, then webdna will try to run any embedded code = and then return it to Apache to show to your malicious visitor. What I = want/need is an extension that webdna can cache, and yet that Apache = ignores, or refuses to acknowledge exists.=20 >>=20 >> I feel like I=92m overlooking something, but I haven=92t had enough = time to dig in and find a good solution. Has anyone solved this already? >>=20 >>=20 >> -Brian B.=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>> On Mar 16, 2015, at 4:45 PM, Kenneth Grome = wrote: >>>=20 >>> I would write a WebDNA script that runs automatically once a day >>> (via cron, trigger, etc.) and writes complete .html files, one for >>> every author, overwriting whatever matching files were already >>> there. Then you know for a fact that all these pages are >>> up-to-date as of today, and WebDNA never has to do any of the hard >>> work at the time the visitor actually requests one of these pages. >>>=20 >>> If you don't like this idea and instead you actually want WebDNA >>> to cache your .inc and .frag files you can change their suffixes >>> to one that WebDNA is already processing, or add .inc and .frag to >>> your WebCatalog "ValidTemplateExtensions" preference and to the >>> "AddHandler webcatalog2-handler" directive in Apache's webdna.conf >>> file. >>>=20 >>> Regards, >>> Kenneth Grome >>> WebDNA Solutions >>> http://www.webdnasolutions.com >>> Web Database Systems and Linux Server Management >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> On 03/16/2015 02:04 PM, Brian Burton wrote: >>>> Greetings! >>>>=20 >>>> What is the WebDNA community doing for cacheing page fragment >>>> files? On my website I have some pages that require significant >>>> processing to generate the visible content. To save time, I >>>> only render it out the processing intense parts once an hour or >>>> day or whatever (as required). I save this out as a fragment of >>>> HTML in a file (with an .inc or .frag extension) >>>>=20 >>>> An example of this might be a database of books, and I need to >>>> create a page that has as html links, a list of unique authors >>>> and a count of books attributed to that author. Rather then do >>>> this every time the page is requested, i first check to see if >>>> the fragment exists, then check to see if it=92s current, and >>>> then if both of those are false I render out the html, save it >>>> in a new fragment file, and display it to the user. >>>>=20 >>>> SO.. here=92s my question: the fragments are saved as .inc or >>>> .frag. WebDNA does not cache these as they are neither >>>> templates nor databases. This causes a lot of disk activity as >>>> I use fragments extensively to speed up the the quasi-static >>>> parts of the website. How can I get webdna to cache these? I am >>>> hesitant to add the extensions to the template field in the >>>> settings. I do not want the fragment under any circumstance to >>>> be able to be directly accessed by a web visitor. Should I >>>> block the extension from being served by Apache? Would it be >>>> possible to get a third cache field type in the webdna >>>> settings? Thoughts? Suggestions? >>>>=20 >>>> Thanks! Brian B.=20 >>>> --------------------------------------------------------- This >>>> message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the >>>> mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>> archives: >>>> http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us Bug Reporting: >>>> support@webdna.us >>>>=20 >>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>> the mailing list . >>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >>>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> --------------------------------------------------------- >> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >> the mailing list . >> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >=20 > --------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us > Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us
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Hi Brian, Not sure why this isn=92t the default=85 but this seems to work for me: in webdna.conf---------------------------- - add: deny from all Then edit similar to: AddType text/html .tpl .dna .inc AddHandler webcatalog2-handler .tpl .tmpl .html .htm .dna .inc ---------------------------------------------- Then =91service apache2 reload=92 HTH, Donovan On Mar 16, 2015, at 6:15 PM, Stuart Tremain wrote: > Brian >=20 > If the .frag file is only ever to be included and displayed in an HTML = file why don=92t you use a SHOWIF. >=20 > At the top of the HTML a TEXT var i.e. [text]SHOWFRAG=3DT[/TEXT], then = wrap the contents of the .frag=20 >=20 > [SHOWIF [SHOWFRAG]=3DT] > FRAG CONTENTS > [/SHOWIF] >=20 > Then if the .frag file is ever served the content will be nothing. >=20 >=20 > Kind regards >=20 > Stuart Tremain > IDFK Web Developments > AUSTRALIA > webdna@idfk.com.au >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >> On 17 Mar 2015, at 09:37, Brian Burton wrote: >>=20 >> Ken, >>=20 >> I=92m doing Ok on writing out the fragments, and using them as = [include]=92d content as needed. I do not write out a whole page of html = because I have personalized dynamic content on other parts of the page.=20= >>=20 >> The concern is have is, and why i don=92t want this mapped as a = template is that the webserver will serve up template files when = requested. i.e. if you have storefunctions.inc as a file, and someone is = savvy enough to request it, either it isn=92t mapped to webdna, and = Apache happily serves up your raw webdna as text to who ever ask for it = (bad) or if it is mapped, then webdna will try to run any embedded code = and then return it to Apache to show to your malicious visitor. What I = want/need is an extension that webdna can cache, and yet that Apache = ignores, or refuses to acknowledge exists.=20 >>=20 >> I feel like I=92m overlooking something, but I haven=92t had enough = time to dig in and find a good solution. Has anyone solved this already? >>=20 >>=20 >> -Brian B.=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>> On Mar 16, 2015, at 4:45 PM, Kenneth Grome = wrote: >>>=20 >>> I would write a WebDNA script that runs automatically once a day >>> (via cron, trigger, etc.) and writes complete .html files, one for >>> every author, overwriting whatever matching files were already >>> there. Then you know for a fact that all these pages are >>> up-to-date as of today, and WebDNA never has to do any of the hard >>> work at the time the visitor actually requests one of these pages. >>>=20 >>> If you don't like this idea and instead you actually want WebDNA >>> to cache your .inc and .frag files you can change their suffixes >>> to one that WebDNA is already processing, or add .inc and .frag to >>> your WebCatalog "ValidTemplateExtensions" preference and to the >>> "AddHandler webcatalog2-handler" directive in Apache's webdna.conf >>> file. >>>=20 >>> Regards, >>> Kenneth Grome >>> WebDNA Solutions >>> http://www.webdnasolutions.com >>> Web Database Systems and Linux Server Management >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> On 03/16/2015 02:04 PM, Brian Burton wrote: >>>> Greetings! >>>>=20 >>>> What is the WebDNA community doing for cacheing page fragment >>>> files? On my website I have some pages that require significant >>>> processing to generate the visible content. To save time, I >>>> only render it out the processing intense parts once an hour or >>>> day or whatever (as required). I save this out as a fragment of >>>> HTML in a file (with an .inc or .frag extension) >>>>=20 >>>> An example of this might be a database of books, and I need to >>>> create a page that has as html links, a list of unique authors >>>> and a count of books attributed to that author. Rather then do >>>> this every time the page is requested, i first check to see if >>>> the fragment exists, then check to see if it=92s current, and >>>> then if both of those are false I render out the html, save it >>>> in a new fragment file, and display it to the user. >>>>=20 >>>> SO.. here=92s my question: the fragments are saved as .inc or >>>> .frag. WebDNA does not cache these as they are neither >>>> templates nor databases. This causes a lot of disk activity as >>>> I use fragments extensively to speed up the the quasi-static >>>> parts of the website. How can I get webdna to cache these? I am >>>> hesitant to add the extensions to the template field in the >>>> settings. I do not want the fragment under any circumstance to >>>> be able to be directly accessed by a web visitor. Should I >>>> block the extension from being served by Apache? Would it be >>>> possible to get a third cache field type in the webdna >>>> settings? Thoughts? Suggestions? >>>>=20 >>>> Thanks! Brian B.=20 >>>> --------------------------------------------------------- This >>>> message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the >>>> mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>> archives: >>>> http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us Bug Reporting: >>>> support@webdna.us >>>>=20 >>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>> the mailing list . >>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >>>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> --------------------------------------------------------- >> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >> the mailing list . >> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >=20 > --------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us > Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us
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