Re: [WebDNA] Emailer breaking format

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2015


It keeps the original formatting.
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texte = --Apple-Mail-1982D079-18B0-4BF1-B87C-E544B355E28C Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The disadvantage is that you're doing some kind of workaround for some unkno= wn buggy situation. So on principal, I prefer to do things in a way that doe= sn't require a kludge or extra processing (the raw tag). Also, like Brian, I= prefer to set variables that I can easily check in a listvariables loop, wh= ich is something (along with formvariables and listcookies) that appears in a= development-only area at the bottom of all my pages. In fact, I'll often se= t a text variable for something like a sendmail or search context itself jus= t to see what's really showing up. Terry Sent from my iPad > On Mar 25, 2015, at 11:47 AM, Steve Raslevich wrote: >=20 > True. Do you think there is a disatvantage the way I've been using [raw],= [/raw] within the [founditems] within [sendmail] ?=20 >=20 > Terry Wilson wrote: >>=20 >> It doesn't cost anything. The founditems loop is just moved up a few line= s. >>=20 >> [text]bccaddresses=3D[founditems][EMAILADDRESS],[/founditems][/text] >>=20 >> [SendMail to=3Dcustomer@abc.com&bcc=3D[bccaddresses]&from=3Dsupport@xyz&s= ubject=3Dsend to many&Content-Type=3Dtext/html] >>=20 >> Terry >>=20 >> On Mar 25, 2015, at 10:51 AM, Steve Raslevich wrote: >>=20 >> =20 >>> Hi Terry >>>=20 >>> Seems to work fine if the addys are in a single variable but would add a= nother step in the send process as [founditems] would now need to run before= the [sendmail] to set a variable with a given group of addys.=20 >>>=20 >>> =20 >>>> Shingles is better now, thanks, what with a prescribed pain killer. >>>> =20 >>>>=20 >>>> Topical Lydocaine helped me a lot >>>> =20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> Terry Wilson wrote: >>> =20 >>>> I guess I glossed over the 30K pieces of mail part. Yes, that would dra= g on forever. >>>>=20 >>>> I have a site where people can enter two email addresses, separated wit= h a comma, in the email field and it seems to work okay. So that's a comma c= oming out of a database. I know yours is hard coded within a founditems loop= ; just don't know what the difference would be. Have you tried setting a var= iable with all the addys just before the sendmail and using that instead? Mi= ght work? >>>>=20 >>>> Shingles is better now, thanks, what with a prescribed pain killer. >>>>=20 >>>> Terry >>>>=20 >>>> On Mar 24, 2015, at 12:50 PM, Steve Raslevich=20 >>>> >>>> wrote: >>>>=20 >>>> =20 >>>>=20 >>>> =20 >>>>> Hi Terry, >>>>>=20 >>>>> Sorry to hear you are dealing with shingles and ditto on recommendatio= n to others speaking from experience as well. >>>>>=20 >>>>> I originally sent 30000 emails one by one - took hours. Breaking into= groups in only takes minutes. Taxing on WebDNA and our mail server. >>>>>=20 >>>>> I found the [raw],[/raw] fix after discovering that only the first ema= il was sent if I only put a comma between the emailaddress within a [foundit= ems] loop and if I manually typed in multiple addresses separated by a comma= then all were sent. >>>>>=20 >>>>> Hope you are feeling better soon. >>>>>=20 >>>>> Steve >>>>>=20 >>>>> Terry Wilson wrote: >>>>> =20 >>>>>=20 >>>>> =20 >>>>>> This isn't how I handle such multiple emails. I do it thusly: >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> search >>>>>> founditems >>>>>> sendmail >>>>>> /sendmail >>>>>> /founditems >>>>>> /search >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> Why not try that. For some reason, early on I figured it was just cle= aner to send individual emails. Or maybe it was breaking on a bad email; I r= eally don't remember that far back. That also gives you a chance to grab oth= er variables from the founditems loop, like "Hello [firstname],". Makes no d= ifference to the mail server. Or perhaps it makes it easier for the mail ser= ver; I wouldn't know about that. For sure it will take WebDNA longer to proc= ess the page. But so what. >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> As for the comma, that's just bizarre. I use commas all the time, no p= roblem (but they aren't within a founditems loop). BCC,CC,Sender,Reply-to.. u= se them all; never seen a problem. Even more curious - how did you come up w= ith the idea to even try [raw]? That's like wondering how anyone ever came u= p with the idea of cooking an artichoke bud. >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> BTW anyone who ever had chicken pox should get the shingles vaccine. Y= ou can guess why I'm sending this advice... >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> Terry >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> On Mar 24, 2015, at 10:57 AM, Kenneth Grome >>>>>> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> =20 >>>>>> =20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> =20 >>>>>>> These are good things to know. >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> I think they should be added to the documentation since they are >>>>>>> clearly unexpected behavior, at least for many of us. >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>> Kenneth Grome >>>>>>> WebDNA Solutions >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> http://www.webdnasolutions.com >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> Web Database Systems and Linux Server Management >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> On 03/24/2015 11:01 AM, Steve Raslevich wrote: >>>>>>> =20 >>>>>>> =20 >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> =20 >>>>>>>> I have no idea for the behavior but do know that only the first BCC= >>>>>>>> email address will be sent if the comma separating the addresses in= a >>>>>>>> [founditems] is now within [raw] >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> Another finding about sending to multiple addresses with [sendmail]= is >>>>>>>> that if one email address is an invalid formatted address, the emai= l is >>>>>>>> not sent to any of the addresses. >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> I send out an email newsletter to @ 30,000 addresses and break the >>>>>>>> sending down to groups of 35 - 50. >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> Kenneth Grome wrote: >>>>>>>> =20 >>>>>>>> =20 >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> =20 >>>>>>>>>> Ken, only the comma is in the raw context. no space: >>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>> =20 >>>>>>>>>> =20 >>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>> =20 >>>>>>>>> But I still do not understand why [raw],[/raw] would modify the >>>>>>>>> comma (or the code around it) in any way, much less in a way that >>>>>>>>> would cause the sendmail to work properly with it but not without i= t. >>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>> Apparently it has some kind of reaction with the founditems? Does= >>>>>>>>> it introduce an invisible character or something? >>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>> Kenneth Grome >>>>>>>>> WebDNA Solutions >>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>> http://www.webdnasolutions.com >>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>> Web Database Systems and Linux Server Management >>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>> On 03/24/2015 10:41 AM, Steve Raslevich wrote: >>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>> =20 >>>>>>>>> =20 >>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>> =20 >>>>>>>>>> Ken, only the comma is in the raw context. no space: >>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>> If not using [founditems] and sending to multiple BCC or TO's the= syntax >>>>>>>>>> would look like this: >>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>> [SendMail >>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>> to=3Dcustomer@abc.com&bcc=3Daddy1@example.com,addy2@example.com,a= ddy3@example.com&from=3Dsupport@xyz&subject=3Dsend >>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>> tomany&Content-Type=3Dtext/html] >>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>> [SendMail >>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>> to=3Dcustomer@abc.com&bcc=3D >>>>>>>>>> [founditems][EMAILADDRESS][raw],[/raw][/founditems]&from=3Dsuppor= t@xyz&subject=3Dsend >>>>>>>>>> tomany&Content-Type=3Dtext/html] >>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>> Kenneth Grome wrote: >>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>> =20 >>>>>>>>>> =20 >>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>> =20 >>>>>>>>>>>>> Had the same problem with BCC, wrapping the , (comma) in [raw= ] >>>>>>>>>>>>> required between the BCC addresses fixed it for me. Also works= >>>>>>>>>>>>> for TO: >>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>> =20 >>>>>>>>>>>>> =20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>> =20 >>>>>>>>>>>> Good tip, thanks Steve. >>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>> =20 >>>>>>>>>>>> =20 >>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>> =20 >>>>>>>>>>> I wish I could understand how this works. Putting something >>>>>>>>>>> inside a raw context is not supposed to change it. The raw >>>>>>>>>>> context encloses only two chars, a comma and a space, correct? >>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>>>> Kenneth Grome >>>>>>>>>>> WebDNA Solutions >>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>> http://www.webdnasolutions.com >>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>> Web Database Systems and Linux Server Management >>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>> On 03/23/2015 05:56 PM, Stuart Tremain wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>> =20 >>>>>>>>>>> =20 >>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>> =20 >>>>>>>>>>>> Kind regards >>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>> Stuart Tremain >>>>>>>>>>>> IDFK Web Developments >>>>>>>>>>>> AUSTRALIA >>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>> webdna@idfk.com.au >>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>> =20 >>>>>>>>>>>> =20 >>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>> =20 >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 24 Mar 2015, at 09:09, Steve Raslevich >>>>>>>>>>>>> < >>>>>>>>>>>>> WebDNA@northernsoundandlight.com >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> =20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> =20 >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Stuart, >>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>> =20 >>>>>>>>>>>>> =20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>> =20 >>>>>>>>>>> =20 >>>>>>>>>>> =20 >>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>> =20 >>>>>>>>>>>>> [SendMail >>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>> to=3Dcustomer@abc.com&bcc=3D >>>>>>>>>>>>> [founditems][EMAILADDRESS][raw], >>>>>>>>>>>>> [/raw][/founditems]&from=3Dsupport@xyz&subject=3Dsend to >>>>>>>>>>>>> many]&Content-Type=3Dtext/html] >>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>> Stuart Tremain wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>> =20 >>>>>>>>>>>>> =20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>> =20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are you sending one email to one recipient or one email to ma= ny >>>>>>>>>>>>>> recipients ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I had a problem with the latter, making it one to one solved >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the problem, but I don=E2=80=99t know what was causing it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kind regards >>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stuart Tremain >>>>>>>>>>>>>> IDFK Web Developments >>>>>>>>>>>>>> AUSTRALIA >>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> webdna@idfk.com.au >>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> =20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> =20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> =20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 20 Mar 2015, at 12:13, Diane Blackmore >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> diane@cohesion.co.nz >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> =20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> =20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Frequently, and increasingly, the Emailer seems to be breaki= ng >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the format of the emails resulting in garbled receipts etc >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> being sent to customers of our clients. This is happening no= w >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more often than not - 20-30 times a day in one case, and nee= ds >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to be resolved so I=E2=80=99d be interested if anyone knows o= f >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything buggy here. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The files that Emailer is sending are fine both before and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> after sending. The content of the email contains html and so= >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is being sent as file that is written to the EmailFolder - I= >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stress that the format of the email can=E2=80=99t be at issu= e as it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> often comes through OK. It tends to happen more on larger >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> files, but none of them contain anything more than 11kb. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Images are absolute ref=E2=80=99d back to the server etc so n= o images >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are bing sent. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It could be that the problem is not with Emailer but is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> instead breaking down between Emailer and the localhost mail= >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> server (not sure what we're using for this but its on the sa= me >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> server somewhere). >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WebDNA version is *unix-Linux Intel Apache Module version >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 6.2.1* on Ubuntu 12.04.5 LTS (GNU/Linux 3.12.27-xenU x86_64)= , >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apache2, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Package updates etc were run last week but the problem exist= ed >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> before then. Emailer is set to send every 20 ticks, and is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not really busy. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It has been suggested that we could replace Emailer with >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something that does the same job but I=E2=80=99d be interest= ed to find >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> out if there=E2=80=99s a quicker fix before I go down that b= umpy path. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: Sandra Hillyard< >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shillyard@xtra.co.nz >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> =20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Best Blooms Florist"< >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> website@bestblooms.co.nz >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> =20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Best Blooms Florist Receipt >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BCC:=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> diane@cohesion.co.nz >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Organization: Best Blooms Florist >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MIME-Version: 1.0 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> boundary=3D"----=3D_NextPart_01jvh893459rhw" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> X-Priority: 3 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> X-MSMail-Priority: Normal >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ------=3D_NextPart_01jvh893459rhw >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> charset=3D"iso-8859-1" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This message is in a format that cannot be read by your emai= l >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> software. 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The disadvantage is that you're doing s= ome kind of workaround for some unknown buggy situation. So on principal, I p= refer to do things in a way that doesn't require a kludge or extra processin= g (the raw tag). Also, like Brian, I prefer to set variables that I can easi= ly check in a listvariables loop, which is something (along with formvariabl= es and listcookies) that appears in a development-only area at the bottom of= all my pages. In fact, I'll often set a text variable for something like a s= endmail or search context itself just to see what's really showing up.
=

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On Mar 25, 2= 015, at 11:47 AM, Steve Raslevich <WebDNA@northernsoundandlight.com> wrote:

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True. Do you think there is a disatvantage the way I've been using  [raw],[/raw] within the [founditems] within [sendmail] ?

Terry Wilson wrote: 
It doesn't cost anything. The founditems loop is just moved= up a few lines.[text]bccaddresses=3D[founditems][EMAILADDRESS],[/founditems][/text][SendMail to=3Dcustomer@abc.com&bcc=3D[bccaddresses]&=from=3Dsupport@xyz&subject=3Dsend to many&Content-Type=3Dtext/html]TerryOn Mar 25, 2015, at 10:51 AM, Steve Raslevich <WebDNA@northernsou=ndandlight.com> wrote:  
Hi TerrySeems to work fine if the addys are in a single variable but would add anoth=er step in the send process as [founditems] would now need to run before the= [sendmail] to set a variable with a given group of addys.=20    
Shingles is better now, thanks, what with a prescribed p=ain killer. =20  Topical Lydocaine helped me a lot      
Terry Wilson wrote:    
I guess I glossed over the 30K pieces of mail part. Yes=, that would drag on forever.I have a site where people can enter two email addresses, separated with a c=omma, in the email field and it seems to work okay. So that's a comma coming= out of a database. I know yours is hard coded within a founditems loop; jus=t don't know what the difference would be. Have you tried setting a variable= with all the addys just before the sendmail and using that instead? Might w=ork?Shingles is better now, thanks, what with a prescribed pain killer.TerryOn Mar 24, 2015, at 12:50 PM, Steve Raslevich=20<WebDNA@northernsoundandlight.com> wrote: =20      
Hi Terry,Sorry to hear you are dealing with shingles and ditto on recommendation to o=thers speaking from experience as well.I originally sent 30000 emails one by one - took hours.  Breaking into group=s in only takes minutes. Taxing on WebDNA and our mail server.I found the [raw],[/raw] fix after discovering that only the first email was= sent if I only put a comma between the emailaddress within a [founditems] l=oop and if I manually typed in multiple addresses separated by a comma then a=ll were sent.Hope you are feeling better soon.SteveTerry Wilson wrote:   =20        
This isn't how I handle such multiple emails. I do i=t thusly:searchfounditemssendmail/sendmail/founditems/searchWhy not try that. For some reason, early on I figured it was just cleaner to= send individual emails. Or maybe it was breaking on a bad email; I really d=on't remember that far back. That also gives you a chance to grab other vari=ables from the founditems loop, like "Hello [firstname],". Makes no differen=ce to the mail server. Or perhaps it makes it easier for the mail server; I w=ouldn't know about that. For sure it will take WebDNA longer to process the p=age. But so what.As for the comma, that's just bizarre. I use commas all the time, no problem= (but they aren't within a founditems loop). BCC,CC,Sender,Reply-to.. use th=em all; never seen a problem. Even more curious - how did you come up with t=he idea to even try [raw]? That's like wondering how anyone ever came up wit=h the idea of cooking an artichoke bud.BTW anyone who ever had chicken pox should get the shingles vaccine. You can= guess why I'm sending this advice...TerryOn Mar 24, 2015, at 10:57 AM, Kenneth Grome&=lt;ken@webdnasolutions.com>  wrote: =20     =20          
These are good things to know.I think they should be added to the documentation since they areclearly unexpected behavior, at least for many of us.Regards,Kenneth GromeWebDNA Solutionsh=ttp://www.webdnasolutions.comWeb Database Systems and Linux Server ManagementOn 03/24/2015 11:01 AM, Steve Raslevich wrote:   =20       =20            
I have no idea for the behavior but do know tha=t only the first BCCemail address will be sent if the comma separating the addresses in a[founditems] is now within [raw]Another finding about sending to multiple addresses with [sendmail] isthat if one email address is an invalid formatted address, the email isnot sent to any of the addresses.I send out an email newsletter to @ 30,000 addresses and break thesending down to groups of 35 - 50.Kenneth Grome wrote:     =20         =20              
Ken, only the comma is in the raw context. n=o space:         =20             =20                  
But I still do not understand why [raw],[/raw=] would modify thecomma (or the code around it) in any way, much less in a way thatwould cause the sendmail to work properly with it but not without it.Apparently it has some kind of reaction with the founditems?  Doesit introduce an invisible character or something?Regards,Kenneth GromeWebDNA Solutionsh=ttp://www.webdnasolutions.comWeb Database Systems and Linux Server ManagementOn 03/24/2015 10:41 AM, Steve Raslevich wrote:       =20           =20                
Ken, only the comma is in the raw context. n=o space:If not using [founditems] and sending to multiple BCC or TO's the syntaxwould look like this:[SendMailto=3Dcustomer@abc.com&bcc=3Daddy1@example.=com,addy2@example.com,addy3@example.com&from=3Dsupport@xyz&subject=3D=sendtomany&Content-Type=3Dtext/html][SendMailto=3Dcustomer@abc.com&bcc=3D[founditems][EMAILADDRESS][raw],[/raw][/founditems]&from=3Dsupport@xyz&a=mp;subject=3Dsendtomany&Content-Type=3Dtext/html]Kenneth Grome wrote:         =20             =20                  
Had the same problem with BCC, wrappi=ng the  , (comma) in [raw]required between the BCC addresses fixed it for me. Also worksfor  TO:               =20                   =20                        
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I wish I could understand how this works.=  Putting somethinginside a raw context is not supposed to change it.  The rawcontext encloses only two chars, a comma and a space, correct?Regards,Kenneth GromeWebDNA Solutionsh=ttp://www.webdnasolutions.comWeb Database Systems and Linux Server ManagementOn 03/23/2015 05:56 PM, Stuart Tremain wrote:           =20               =20                    
Kind regardsStuart TremainIDFK Web DevelopmentsAUSTRALIAweb=dna@idfk.com.au<mailto:webdna@idfk.com.au>             =20                 =20                      
On 24 Mar 2015, at 09:09, Steve Rasle=vich<WebDNA@northernsoundandlight.com<mailto:WebDNA@northernsoundandlight.com>                        
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[SendMailto=3Dcustomer@abc.com&bcc=3D[founditems][EMAILADDRESS][raw],[/raw][/founditems]&from=3Dsupport@xyz&subject=3Dsend tomany]&Content-Type=3Dtext/html]Stuart Tremain wrote:               =20                   =20                        
Are you sending one email to one re=cipient or one email to manyrecipients ?I had a problem with the latter, making it one to one solvedthe problem, but I don=E2=80=99t know what was causing it.Kind regardsStuart TremainIDFK Web DevelopmentsAUSTRALIAweb=dna@idfk.com.au<mailto:webdna@idfk.com.au>                 =20                     =20                          
On 20 Mar 2015, at 12:13, Diane B=lackmore<d=iane@cohesion.co.nz<mailto:diane@cohesion.co.nz>                            
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HiFrequently, and increasingly, the Emailer seems to be breakingthe format of the emails resulting in garbled receipts etcbeing sent to customers of our clients. This is happening nowmore often than not - 20-30 times a day in one case, and needsto be resolved so I=E2=80=99d be interested if anyone knows ofanything buggy here.The files that Emailer is sending are fine both before andafter sending. The content of the email contains html and sois being sent as file that is written to the EmailFolder - Istress that the format of the email can=E2=80=99t be at issue as itoften comes through OK. It tends to happen more on largerfiles, but none of them contain anything more than 11kb.Images are absolute ref=E2=80=99d back to the server etc so no imagesare bing sent.It could be that the problem is not with Emailer but isinstead breaking down between Emailer and the localhost mailserver (not sure what we're using for this but its on the sameserver somewhere).WebDNA version is  *unix-Linux Intel Apache Module version6.2.1* on Ubuntu 12.04.5 LTS (GNU/Linux 3.12.27-xenU x86_64),Apache2,Package updates etc were run last week but the problem existedbefore then.  Emailer is set to send every 20 ticks, and isnot really busy.It has been suggested that we could replace Emailer withsomething that does the same job but I=E2=80=99d be interested to findout if there=E2=80=99s a quicker fix before I go down that bumpy path.Cheers,<CohesionSig_Diane12.gif><h=ttp://www.cohesion.co.nz/><h=ttp://www.cohesion.co.nz/>To: Sandra Hillyard<s=hillyard@xtra.co.nz<=mailto:shillyard@xtra.co.nz>                            
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  23. Re: [WebDNA] Emailer breaking format (Stuart Tremain 2015)
  24. [WebDNA] Emailer breaking format (Diane Blackmore 2015)
--Apple-Mail-1982D079-18B0-4BF1-B87C-E544B355E28C Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The disadvantage is that you're doing some kind of workaround for some unkno= wn buggy situation. So on principal, I prefer to do things in a way that doe= sn't require a kludge or extra processing (the raw tag). Also, like Brian, I= prefer to set variables that I can easily check in a listvariables loop, wh= ich is something (along with formvariables and listcookies) that appears in a= development-only area at the bottom of all my pages. In fact, I'll often se= t a text variable for something like a sendmail or search context itself jus= t to see what's really showing up. Terry Sent from my iPad > On Mar 25, 2015, at 11:47 AM, Steve Raslevich wrote: >=20 > True. Do you think there is a disatvantage the way I've been using [raw],= [/raw] within the [founditems] within [sendmail] ?=20 >=20 > Terry Wilson wrote: >>=20 >> It doesn't cost anything. The founditems loop is just moved up a few line= s. >>=20 >> [text]bccaddresses=3D[founditems][EMAILADDRESS],[/founditems][/text] >>=20 >> [SendMail to=3Dcustomer@abc.com&bcc=3D[bccaddresses]&from=3Dsupport@xyz&s= ubject=3Dsend to many&Content-Type=3Dtext/html] >>=20 >> Terry >>=20 >> On Mar 25, 2015, at 10:51 AM, Steve Raslevich wrote: >>=20 >> =20 >>> Hi Terry >>>=20 >>> Seems to work fine if the addys are in a single variable but would add a= nother step in the send process as [founditems] would now need to run before= the [sendmail] to set a variable with a given group of addys.=20 >>>=20 >>> =20 >>>> Shingles is better now, thanks, what with a prescribed pain killer. >>>> =20 >>>>=20 >>>> Topical Lydocaine helped me a lot >>>> =20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> Terry Wilson wrote: >>> =20 >>>> I guess I glossed over the 30K pieces of mail part. Yes, that would dra= g on forever. >>>>=20 >>>> I have a site where people can enter two email addresses, separated wit= h a comma, in the email field and it seems to work okay. So that's a comma c= oming out of a database. I know yours is hard coded within a founditems loop= ; just don't know what the difference would be. Have you tried setting a var= iable with all the addys just before the sendmail and using that instead? Mi= ght work? >>>>=20 >>>> Shingles is better now, thanks, what with a prescribed pain killer. >>>>=20 >>>> Terry >>>>=20 >>>> On Mar 24, 2015, at 12:50 PM, Steve Raslevich=20 >>>> >>>> wrote: >>>>=20 >>>> =20 >>>>=20 >>>> =20 >>>>> Hi Terry, >>>>>=20 >>>>> Sorry to hear you are dealing with shingles and ditto on recommendatio= n to others speaking from experience as well. >>>>>=20 >>>>> I originally sent 30000 emails one by one - took hours. Breaking into= groups in only takes minutes. Taxing on WebDNA and our mail server. >>>>>=20 >>>>> I found the [raw],[/raw] fix after discovering that only the first ema= il was sent if I only put a comma between the emailaddress within a [foundit= ems] loop and if I manually typed in multiple addresses separated by a comma= then all were sent. >>>>>=20 >>>>> Hope you are feeling better soon. >>>>>=20 >>>>> Steve >>>>>=20 >>>>> Terry Wilson wrote: >>>>> =20 >>>>>=20 >>>>> =20 >>>>>> This isn't how I handle such multiple emails. I do it thusly: >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> search >>>>>> founditems >>>>>> sendmail >>>>>> /sendmail >>>>>> /founditems >>>>>> /search >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> Why not try that. For some reason, early on I figured it was just cle= aner to send individual emails. Or maybe it was breaking on a bad email; I r= eally don't remember that far back. That also gives you a chance to grab oth= er variables from the founditems loop, like "Hello [firstname],". Makes no d= ifference to the mail server. Or perhaps it makes it easier for the mail ser= ver; I wouldn't know about that. For sure it will take WebDNA longer to proc= ess the page. But so what. >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> As for the comma, that's just bizarre. I use commas all the time, no p= roblem (but they aren't within a founditems loop). BCC,CC,Sender,Reply-to.. u= se them all; never seen a problem. Even more curious - how did you come up w= ith the idea to even try [raw]? That's like wondering how anyone ever came u= p with the idea of cooking an artichoke bud. >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> BTW anyone who ever had chicken pox should get the shingles vaccine. Y= ou can guess why I'm sending this advice... >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> Terry >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> On Mar 24, 2015, at 10:57 AM, Kenneth Grome >>>>>> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> =20 >>>>>> =20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> =20 >>>>>>> These are good things to know. >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> I think they should be added to the documentation since they are >>>>>>> clearly unexpected behavior, at least for many of us. >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>> Kenneth Grome >>>>>>> WebDNA Solutions >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> http://www.webdnasolutions.com >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> Web Database Systems and Linux Server Management >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> On 03/24/2015 11:01 AM, Steve Raslevich wrote: >>>>>>> =20 >>>>>>> =20 >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> =20 >>>>>>>> I have no idea for the behavior but do know that only the first BCC= >>>>>>>> email address will be sent if the comma separating the addresses in= a >>>>>>>> [founditems] is now within [raw] >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> Another finding about sending to multiple addresses with [sendmail]= is >>>>>>>> that if one email address is an invalid formatted address, the emai= l is >>>>>>>> not sent to any of the addresses. >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> I send out an email newsletter to @ 30,000 addresses and break the >>>>>>>> sending down to groups of 35 - 50. >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> Kenneth Grome wrote: >>>>>>>> =20 >>>>>>>> =20 >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> =20 >>>>>>>>>> Ken, only the comma is in the raw context. no space: >>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>> =20 >>>>>>>>>> =20 >>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>> =20 >>>>>>>>> But I still do not understand why [raw],[/raw] would modify the >>>>>>>>> comma (or the code around it) in any way, much less in a way that >>>>>>>>> would cause the sendmail to work properly with it but not without i= t. >>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>> Apparently it has some kind of reaction with the founditems? Does= >>>>>>>>> it introduce an invisible character or something? >>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>> Kenneth Grome >>>>>>>>> WebDNA Solutions >>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>> http://www.webdnasolutions.com >>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>> Web Database Systems and Linux Server Management >>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>> On 03/24/2015 10:41 AM, Steve Raslevich wrote: >>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>> =20 >>>>>>>>> =20 >>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>> =20 >>>>>>>>>> Ken, only the comma is in the raw context. no space: >>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>> If not using [founditems] and sending to multiple BCC or TO's the= syntax >>>>>>>>>> would look like this: >>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>> [SendMail >>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>> to=3Dcustomer@abc.com&bcc=3Daddy1@example.com,addy2@example.com,a= ddy3@example.com&from=3Dsupport@xyz&subject=3Dsend >>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>> tomany&Content-Type=3Dtext/html] >>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>> [SendMail >>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>> to=3Dcustomer@abc.com&bcc=3D >>>>>>>>>> [founditems][EMAILADDRESS][raw],[/raw][/founditems]&from=3Dsuppor= t@xyz&subject=3Dsend >>>>>>>>>> tomany&Content-Type=3Dtext/html] >>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>> Kenneth Grome wrote: >>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>> =20 >>>>>>>>>> =20 >>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>> =20 >>>>>>>>>>>>> Had the same problem with BCC, wrapping the , (comma) in [raw= ] >>>>>>>>>>>>> required between the BCC addresses fixed it for me. Also works= >>>>>>>>>>>>> for TO: >>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>> =20 >>>>>>>>>>>>> =20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>> =20 >>>>>>>>>>>> Good tip, thanks Steve. >>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>> =20 >>>>>>>>>>>> =20 >>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>> =20 >>>>>>>>>>> I wish I could understand how this works. Putting something >>>>>>>>>>> inside a raw context is not supposed to change it. The raw >>>>>>>>>>> context encloses only two chars, a comma and a space, correct? >>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>>>> Kenneth Grome >>>>>>>>>>> WebDNA Solutions >>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>> http://www.webdnasolutions.com >>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>> Web Database Systems and Linux Server Management >>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>> On 03/23/2015 05:56 PM, Stuart Tremain wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>> =20 >>>>>>>>>>> =20 >>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>> =20 >>>>>>>>>>>> Kind regards >>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>> Stuart Tremain >>>>>>>>>>>> IDFK Web Developments >>>>>>>>>>>> AUSTRALIA >>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>> webdna@idfk.com.au >>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>> =20 >>>>>>>>>>>> =20 >>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>> =20 >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 24 Mar 2015, at 09:09, Steve Raslevich >>>>>>>>>>>>> < >>>>>>>>>>>>> WebDNA@northernsoundandlight.com >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> =20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> =20 >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Stuart, >>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>> =20 >>>>>>>>>>>>> =20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>> =20 >>>>>>>>>>> =20 >>>>>>>>>>> =20 >>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>> =20 >>>>>>>>>>>>> [SendMail >>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>> to=3Dcustomer@abc.com&bcc=3D >>>>>>>>>>>>> [founditems][EMAILADDRESS][raw], >>>>>>>>>>>>> [/raw][/founditems]&from=3Dsupport@xyz&subject=3Dsend to >>>>>>>>>>>>> many]&Content-Type=3Dtext/html] >>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>> Stuart Tremain wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>> =20 >>>>>>>>>>>>> =20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>> =20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are you sending one email to one recipient or one email to ma= ny >>>>>>>>>>>>>> recipients ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I had a problem with the latter, making it one to one solved >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the problem, but I don=E2=80=99t know what was causing it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kind regards >>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stuart Tremain >>>>>>>>>>>>>> IDFK Web Developments >>>>>>>>>>>>>> AUSTRALIA >>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> webdna@idfk.com.au >>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> =20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> =20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> =20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 20 Mar 2015, at 12:13, Diane Blackmore >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> diane@cohesion.co.nz >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> =20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> =20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Frequently, and increasingly, the Emailer seems to be breaki= ng >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the format of the emails resulting in garbled receipts etc >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> being sent to customers of our clients. This is happening no= w >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more often than not - 20-30 times a day in one case, and nee= ds >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to be resolved so I=E2=80=99d be interested if anyone knows o= f >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything buggy here. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The files that Emailer is sending are fine both before and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> after sending. The content of the email contains html and so= >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is being sent as file that is written to the EmailFolder - I= >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stress that the format of the email can=E2=80=99t be at issu= e as it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> often comes through OK. It tends to happen more on larger >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> files, but none of them contain anything more than 11kb. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Images are absolute ref=E2=80=99d back to the server etc so n= o images >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are bing sent. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It could be that the problem is not with Emailer but is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> instead breaking down between Emailer and the localhost mail= >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> server (not sure what we're using for this but its on the sa= me >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> server somewhere). >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WebDNA version is *unix-Linux Intel Apache Module version >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 6.2.1* on Ubuntu 12.04.5 LTS (GNU/Linux 3.12.27-xenU x86_64)= , >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apache2, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Package updates etc were run last week but the problem exist= ed >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> before then. Emailer is set to send every 20 ticks, and is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not really busy. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It has been suggested that we could replace Emailer with >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something that does the same job but I=E2=80=99d be interest= ed to find >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> out if there=E2=80=99s a quicker fix before I go down that b= umpy path. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: Sandra Hillyard< >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shillyard@xtra.co.nz >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> =20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Best Blooms Florist"< >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> website@bestblooms.co.nz >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> =20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Best Blooms Florist Receipt >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BCC:=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> diane@cohesion.co.nz >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Organization: Best Blooms Florist >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MIME-Version: 1.0 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> boundary=3D"----=3D_NextPart_01jvh893459rhw" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> X-Priority: 3 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> X-MSMail-Priority: Normal >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ------=3D_NextPart_01jvh893459rhw >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> charset=3D"iso-8859-1" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This message is in a format that cannot be read by your emai= l >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> software. 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The disadvantage is that you're doing s= ome kind of workaround for some unknown buggy situation. So on principal, I p= refer to do things in a way that doesn't require a kludge or extra processin= g (the raw tag). Also, like Brian, I prefer to set variables that I can easi= ly check in a listvariables loop, which is something (along with formvariabl= es and listcookies) that appears in a development-only area at the bottom of= all my pages. In fact, I'll often set a text variable for something like a s= endmail or search context itself just to see what's really showing up.
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On Mar 25, 2= 015, at 11:47 AM, Steve Raslevich <WebDNA@northernsoundandlight.com> wrote:

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True. Do you think there is a disatvantage the way I've been using  [raw],[/raw] within the [founditems] within [sendmail] ?

Terry Wilson wrote: 
It doesn't cost anything. The founditems loop is just moved= up a few lines.[text]bccaddresses=3D[founditems][EMAILADDRESS],[/founditems][/text][SendMail to=3Dcustomer@abc.com&bcc=3D[bccaddresses]&=from=3Dsupport@xyz&subject=3Dsend to many&Content-Type=3Dtext/html]TerryOn Mar 25, 2015, at 10:51 AM, Steve Raslevich <WebDNA@northernsou=ndandlight.com> wrote:  
Hi TerrySeems to work fine if the addys are in a single variable but would add anoth=er step in the send process as [founditems] would now need to run before the= [sendmail] to set a variable with a given group of addys.=20    
Shingles is better now, thanks, what with a prescribed p=ain killer. =20  Topical Lydocaine helped me a lot      
Terry Wilson wrote:    
I guess I glossed over the 30K pieces of mail part. Yes=, that would drag on forever.I have a site where people can enter two email addresses, separated with a c=omma, in the email field and it seems to work okay. So that's a comma coming= out of a database. I know yours is hard coded within a founditems loop; jus=t don't know what the difference would be. Have you tried setting a variable= with all the addys just before the sendmail and using that instead? Might w=ork?Shingles is better now, thanks, what with a prescribed pain killer.TerryOn Mar 24, 2015, at 12:50 PM, Steve Raslevich=20<WebDNA@northernsoundandlight.com> wrote: =20      
Hi Terry,Sorry to hear you are dealing with shingles and ditto on recommendation to o=thers speaking from experience as well.I originally sent 30000 emails one by one - took hours.  Breaking into group=s in only takes minutes. Taxing on WebDNA and our mail server.I found the [raw],[/raw] fix after discovering that only the first email was= sent if I only put a comma between the emailaddress within a [founditems] l=oop and if I manually typed in multiple addresses separated by a comma then a=ll were sent.Hope you are feeling better soon.SteveTerry Wilson wrote:   =20        
This isn't how I handle such multiple emails. I do i=t thusly:searchfounditemssendmail/sendmail/founditems/searchWhy not try that. For some reason, early on I figured it was just cleaner to= send individual emails. Or maybe it was breaking on a bad email; I really d=on't remember that far back. That also gives you a chance to grab other vari=ables from the founditems loop, like "Hello [firstname],". Makes no differen=ce to the mail server. Or perhaps it makes it easier for the mail server; I w=ouldn't know about that. For sure it will take WebDNA longer to process the p=age. But so what.As for the comma, that's just bizarre. I use commas all the time, no problem= (but they aren't within a founditems loop). BCC,CC,Sender,Reply-to.. use th=em all; never seen a problem. Even more curious - how did you come up with t=he idea to even try [raw]? That's like wondering how anyone ever came up wit=h the idea of cooking an artichoke bud.BTW anyone who ever had chicken pox should get the shingles vaccine. You can= guess why I'm sending this advice...TerryOn Mar 24, 2015, at 10:57 AM, Kenneth Grome&=lt;ken@webdnasolutions.com>  wrote: =20     =20          
These are good things to know.I think they should be added to the documentation since they areclearly unexpected behavior, at least for many of us.Regards,Kenneth GromeWebDNA Solutionsh=ttp://www.webdnasolutions.comWeb Database Systems and Linux Server ManagementOn 03/24/2015 11:01 AM, Steve Raslevich wrote:   =20       =20            
I have no idea for the behavior but do know tha=t only the first BCCemail address will be sent if the comma separating the addresses in a[founditems] is now within [raw]Another finding about sending to multiple addresses with [sendmail] isthat if one email address is an invalid formatted address, the email isnot sent to any of the addresses.I send out an email newsletter to @ 30,000 addresses and break thesending down to groups of 35 - 50.Kenneth Grome wrote:     =20         =20              
Ken, only the comma is in the raw context. n=o space:         =20             =20                  
But I still do not understand why [raw],[/raw=] would modify thecomma (or the code around it) in any way, much less in a way thatwould cause the sendmail to work properly with it but not without it.Apparently it has some kind of reaction with the founditems?  Doesit introduce an invisible character or something?Regards,Kenneth GromeWebDNA Solutionsh=ttp://www.webdnasolutions.comWeb Database Systems and Linux Server ManagementOn 03/24/2015 10:41 AM, Steve Raslevich wrote:       =20           =20                
Ken, only the comma is in the raw context. n=o space:If not using [founditems] and sending to multiple BCC or TO's the syntaxwould look like this:[SendMailto=3Dcustomer@abc.com&bcc=3Daddy1@example.=com,addy2@example.com,addy3@example.com&from=3Dsupport@xyz&subject=3D=sendtomany&Content-Type=3Dtext/html][SendMailto=3Dcustomer@abc.com&bcc=3D[founditems][EMAILADDRESS][raw],[/raw][/founditems]&from=3Dsupport@xyz&a=mp;subject=3Dsendtomany&Content-Type=3Dtext/html]Kenneth Grome wrote:         =20             =20                  
Had the same problem with BCC, wrappi=ng the  , (comma) in [raw]required between the BCC addresses fixed it for me. Also worksfor  TO:               =20                   =20                        
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I wish I could understand how this works.=  Putting somethinginside a raw context is not supposed to change it.  The rawcontext encloses only two chars, a comma and a space, correct?Regards,Kenneth GromeWebDNA Solutionsh=ttp://www.webdnasolutions.comWeb Database Systems and Linux Server ManagementOn 03/23/2015 05:56 PM, Stuart Tremain wrote:           =20               =20                    
Kind regardsStuart TremainIDFK Web DevelopmentsAUSTRALIAweb=dna@idfk.com.au<mailto:webdna@idfk.com.au>             =20                 =20                      
On 24 Mar 2015, at 09:09, Steve Rasle=vich<WebDNA@northernsoundandlight.com<mailto:WebDNA@northernsoundandlight.com>                        
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[SendMailto=3Dcustomer@abc.com&bcc=3D[founditems][EMAILADDRESS][raw],[/raw][/founditems]&from=3Dsupport@xyz&subject=3Dsend tomany]&Content-Type=3Dtext/html]Stuart Tremain wrote:               =20                   =20                        
Are you sending one email to one re=cipient or one email to manyrecipients ?I had a problem with the latter, making it one to one solvedthe problem, but I don=E2=80=99t know what was causing it.Kind regardsStuart TremainIDFK Web DevelopmentsAUSTRALIAweb=dna@idfk.com.au<mailto:webdna@idfk.com.au>                 =20                     =20                          
On 20 Mar 2015, at 12:13, Diane B=lackmore<d=iane@cohesion.co.nz<mailto:diane@cohesion.co.nz>                            
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HiFrequently, and increasingly, the Emailer seems to be breakingthe format of the emails resulting in garbled receipts etcbeing sent to customers of our clients. This is happening nowmore often than not - 20-30 times a day in one case, and needsto be resolved so I=E2=80=99d be interested if anyone knows ofanything buggy here.The files that Emailer is sending are fine both before andafter sending. The content of the email contains html and sois being sent as file that is written to the EmailFolder - Istress that the format of the email can=E2=80=99t be at issue as itoften comes through OK. It tends to happen more on largerfiles, but none of them contain anything more than 11kb.Images are absolute ref=E2=80=99d back to the server etc so no imagesare bing sent.It could be that the problem is not with Emailer but isinstead breaking down between Emailer and the localhost mailserver (not sure what we're using for this but its on the sameserver somewhere).WebDNA version is  *unix-Linux Intel Apache Module version6.2.1* on Ubuntu 12.04.5 LTS (GNU/Linux 3.12.27-xenU x86_64),Apache2,Package updates etc were run last week but the problem existedbefore then.  Emailer is set to send every 20 ticks, and isnot really busy.It has been suggested that we could replace Emailer withsomething that does the same job but I=E2=80=99d be interested to findout if there=E2=80=99s a quicker fix before I go down that bumpy path.Cheers,<CohesionSig_Diane12.gif><h=ttp://www.cohesion.co.nz/><h=ttp://www.cohesion.co.nz/>To: Sandra Hillyard<s=hillyard@xtra.co.nz<=mailto:shillyard@xtra.co.nz>                            
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