Re: [WebDNA] 30 Minute Cookies
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It keeps the original formatting.
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texte = 247 What we do offer to WebDNA customers are new tools. You cannot use [session= ] as you would use a [cookie]: it gives you a way to decide if an IP change w= ill or will not be a trigger for closing a session, it will NOT allow a user= to access his own session and represents a huge step forward for security ,= it gives you the possibility to assign sessions to robots... Your imaginati= on and creativity is your best friend here. About [biotype], know that several banks are showing great interest into Web= DNA based solutions and that this "small addition" might revolutionize WebDN= A future. Again, what we do here is not trying to keep an old product under medical as= sistance but to create, improve and make it great again. - chris=20 On 18 Mar 2016, at 16:32, Kenneth Grome
wrote: Chris, I was extremely happy to switch from [cart] based shopping carts to [cookie] based carts -- because the use of cookies totally eliminated all the problems related to passing cart values from page to page. Cookies are SO MUCH BETTER for this task! And using the ip address (in whole or in part) to identify a session is a huge mistake in my opinion, because ISPs assign ip addresses dynamically, changing them all the time, and they have done it this way for decades. Your implementation of [session] would require that I go back to passing a session value in every link and form in the entire website. This is practically impossible in anything but a new website due to the extensive rewriting required. But it is not something I would consider even when creating a new website from scratch -- because cookies are still far better at this task. Sorry Chris, I have no use for your [session] system and I'm willing to bet that most everyone else feels the same. I honestly do not know why you bothered to create it before asking us if we would ever use it. You did the same thing with BioType. I wish you would just ask us what changes we might like to see in WebDNA, and make those changes first, before introducing new features that no one asked for or wants or needs. Trying to anticipate the future and introduce new features to serve those potential future needs is great *if* your current product is not lacking, and if you have the money to splurge on developing new features no one may ever use. But this is not the situation with WebDNA, is it? Updating WebDNA's cookie capabilities is something we could all use today and into the foreseeable future. Some of us would also feel better about being able to offer our clients dramatically simplified and updated database security, perhaps in the way we discussed a few weeks. These are the things we use every day. BTW, [session] is not listed on your alphabetical list of tags and contexts. I wonder how many others are missing from this (alphabetical) list or the other (categorized) list? Regards, Kenneth Grome WebDNA Solutions http://www.webdnasolutions.com Web Database Systems and Linux Server Administration --------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us .
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247 What we do offer to WebDNA customers are new tools. You cannot use [session= ] as you would use a [cookie]: it gives you a way to decide if an IP change w= ill or will not be a trigger for closing a session, it will NOT allow a user= to access his own session and represents a huge step forward for security ,= it gives you the possibility to assign sessions to robots... Your imaginati= on and creativity is your best friend here. About [biotype], know that several banks are showing great interest into Web= DNA based solutions and that this "small addition" might revolutionize WebDN= A future. Again, what we do here is not trying to keep an old product under medical as= sistance but to create, improve and make it great again. - chris=20 On 18 Mar 2016, at 16:32, Kenneth Grome wrote: Chris, I was extremely happy to switch from [cart] based shopping carts to [cookie] based carts -- because the use of cookies totally eliminated all the problems related to passing cart values from page to page. Cookies are SO MUCH BETTER for this task! And using the ip address (in whole or in part) to identify a session is a huge mistake in my opinion, because ISPs assign ip addresses dynamically, changing them all the time, and they have done it this way for decades. Your implementation of [session] would require that I go back to passing a session value in every link and form in the entire website. This is practically impossible in anything but a new website due to the extensive rewriting required. But it is not something I would consider even when creating a new website from scratch -- because cookies are still far better at this task. Sorry Chris, I have no use for your [session] system and I'm willing to bet that most everyone else feels the same. I honestly do not know why you bothered to create it before asking us if we would ever use it. You did the same thing with BioType. I wish you would just ask us what changes we might like to see in WebDNA, and make those changes first, before introducing new features that no one asked for or wants or needs. Trying to anticipate the future and introduce new features to serve those potential future needs is great *if* your current product is not lacking, and if you have the money to splurge on developing new features no one may ever use. But this is not the situation with WebDNA, is it? Updating WebDNA's cookie capabilities is something we could all use today and into the foreseeable future. Some of us would also feel better about being able to offer our clients dramatically simplified and updated database security, perhaps in the way we discussed a few weeks. These are the things we use every day. BTW, [session] is not listed on your alphabetical list of tags and contexts. I wonder how many others are missing from this (alphabetical) list or the other (categorized) list? Regards, Kenneth Grome WebDNA Solutions http://www.webdnasolutions.com Web Database Systems and Linux Server Administration --------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us .
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