Re: [WebDNA] PayPal Integration
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texte = 1534 I hear what you=E2=80=99re saying. My sites also predated current solutions -= heck, Webdna predated php. Like you, I believe my sites are much easier to m= anage than Wordpress and Etsy. My reservation site is pretty user friendly a= nd offers better options than eventbrite. It self-installs for new clients a= nd is hands-off for my part. And my sites=E2=80=99 relative simplicity makes= them faster and stabler. However, there=E2=80=99s no way I can keep up with= the changing internet. I=E2=80=99m just me myself and I. No marketing arm, d= edicated programming and design departments, etc. The thing that finally pus= hed me to quit my merchant account, besides the high fees, was when my Webdn= a integration quit working. As I am trying to retire, it was totally not wor= th my time to reprogram. It was easier to comment out the credit card option= and let PayPal stand. As for sales... massive traffic comes to Etsy. I sell the same stuff on my o= wn site, but honestly I can=E2=80=99t remember the last time I made a sale t= here. They are constant on Etsy though. That=E2=80=99s the reason for using E= tsy. As for Wordpress, I use it for a club I belong to. This way they can ho= st it at their existing host and I can move on and let someone else take ove= r without any disruption. I=E2=80=99m not a regular blogger, but I find Wor= dpress is nicer when interfacing with other bloggers. Like I say, the intern= et changes, and the rest of the world makes use of current options. I do sti= ll have custom sites that my clients could not have had with canned solution= s like Etsy or Wordpress. They are perfectly happy.=20 Those of you with large successful enterprises would naturally do things a l= ittle differently from small operators like myself. Sent from my iPad > On Dec 21, 2017, at 8:26 AM, Matthew A Perosi, Psi Prime
wrote: >=20 > What if the wheel you invented predates WordPress by many years, is a more= stable solution, and is easier to manage? I get very tired of people telli= ng me that I should not have reinvented the wheel with my business software,= meanwhile I'm already on version 15 since it was first created in 1997. It= 's PCI compliant with a default install, it sniffs the difference between mo= bile/desktop/tablet and has the ability to dynamically serve page layouts fo= r each one rather than using responsive nonsense. I have a PayPal integratio= n from a few years ago, but nothing current. I also have the Authorize.net i= ntegration. >=20 > My first server room was also in the 90s with a T1 in a spare bedroom. No= w I have a fiber line with 1000IP addresses to my name. When dedicated IPs a= re needed, having your own server room still pays off in spades. >=20 > -Matt >=20 >=20 >=20 >> On 12/21/2017 11:05 AM, Terry Wilson wrote: >> And you think the credit card fees are fair? I=E2=80=99m not talking the s= tandard 3%, but the additional fees like gateway fees, commercial card fees,= compliance fees, monthly fees, and your own requirement of having an ssl do= main and the ssl fees that go along with that. PayPal has none of that, and l= ike square, they also give you a way to swipe cards on your phone. I=E2=80=99= m just about ready to cancel my long standing merchant account. Just one mor= e site taking cards that I have to deal with. >>=20 >> And speaking of running your own server, I started out in the 90s runnin= g my own server on a t-1 out of a spare bedroom, and saved a magnitude of mo= nthly cost when I went to a hosted solution. The internet is constantly chan= ging and we have to adapt, generally for the better. Nowadays, I=E2=80=99m s= elling MY OWN stuff on Etsy and retiring my lovingly crafted sites complete w= ith shopping cart and clever admin features. Furthermore, I=E2=80=99m using W= ordpress sometimes. And I=E2=80=99m steering clients that way too. There=E2=80= =99s money to be made setting up Wordpress sites. Except for some messing ar= ound in the beginning, I only created custom sites (I=E2=80=99m not taking n= ew work now; trying to retire) where there was no other solution. In other w= ords, I don=E2=80=99t believe in reinventing the wheel. It=E2=80=99s not fai= r to the client. There=E2=80=99s plenty of custom work to be had. Not sure h= ow I got on that tangent... >>=20 >> Terry W >>=20 >> Sent from my iPad >>=20 >>> On Dec 21, 2017, at 6:10 AM, Brian Harrington w= rote: >>>=20 >>> It's that kind thinking Ken that makes the rich richer and why we live >>> in the dominance of paypal, ebay, google, amazon, and apple! don't >>> give the small guys your credit card but give it to the big guys so >>> they can manipulate everything we do! Maybe give it to Trans Union so >>> they can charge us for credit protection after they give all our data >>> away! >>>=20 >>>> On 12/21/17, Kenneth Grome wrote: >>>> PayPal may be a PITA in terms of integration, but sales will >>>> increase when PayPal is added as a payment option ... or at least >>>> this is what I read somewhere online. I believe it, too: >>>>=20 >>>> I would much rather make my online purchases via PayPal than to >>>> have to enter my credit card values into an online form. Not only >>>> do PayPal transactions proceed faster, but the websites that offer >>>> PayPal never have a chance to see or store my credit card data. >>>>=20 >>>> Regards, >>>> Kenneth Grome >>>> WebDNA Solutions >>>> http://www.webdnasolutions.com >>>> Web Database Systems and Linux Server Administration >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>> On 12/21/2017 01:36 AM, Brian Harrington wrote: >>>>> Take the credit cards yourself! I hate them too! >>>>>=20 >>>>>> On 12/20/17, Stuart Tremain wrote: >>>>>> Just cracked another part of this - getting closer. >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> I HATE PayPal - have done for longer than I remember. >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> Kind regards >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> Stuart Tremain >>>>>> Pharoah Lane Software >>>>>> AUSTRALIA >>>>>> webdna@idfk.com.au >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> On 21 Dec 2017, at 14:58, Kenneth Grome >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> I have built a few that are getting old now. I wanted to build >>>>>>>> one on the newest platform. Am having a few issues with part of >>>>>>>> it. >>>>>>> Hi Stuart, >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> Let me know if/when you get this resolved. One of my clients is >>>>>>> (supposedly) going to be ready to add PayPal to his online store >>>>>>> next year, and if I proceed I want to use the newest platform too. >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>> Kenneth Grome >>>>>>> WebDNA Solutions >>>>>>> http://www.webdnasolutions.com >>>>>>> Web Database Systems and Linux Server Administration >>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>>>>>> the mailing list talk@webdna.us >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: talk-leave@webdna.us >>>>>>> archives: http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 >>>>>>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>>>>> the mailing list talk@webdna.us >>>>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: talk-leave@webdna.us >>>>>> archives: http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 >>>>>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >>>>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>>>> the mailing list talk@webdna.us >>>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: talk-leave@webdna.us >>>>> archives: http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 >>>>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >>>>>=20 >>>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>>> the mailing list talk@webdna.us >>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: talk-leave@webdna.us >>>> archives: http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 >>>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >>>>=20 >>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>> the mailing list talk@webdna.us >>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: talk-leave@webdna.us >>> archives: http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 >>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >> --------------------------------------------------------- >> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >> the mailing list talk@webdna.us >> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: talk-leave@webdna.us >> archives: http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 >> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >>=20 >>=20 > --=20 > Matthew A Perosi > Corporate Consultant > Mobile Marketing Expert > Senior Web Developer > SEO Analyst & Educator > matt@psiprime.com >=20 > Psi Prime > 323 Union Blvd. > Totowa, NJ 07512 >=20 > Direct: 888.872.0274 > Fax: 888.488.5924 >=20 > http://www.perosi.com >=20 > --------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list talk@webdna.us > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: talk-leave@webdna.us > archives: http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 > Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us --------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list talk@webdna.us To unsubscribe, E-mail to: talk-leave@webdna.us archives: http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us .
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1534 I hear what you=E2=80=99re saying. My sites also predated current solutions -= heck, Webdna predated php. Like you, I believe my sites are much easier to m= anage than Wordpress and Etsy. My reservation site is pretty user friendly a= nd offers better options than eventbrite. It self-installs for new clients a= nd is hands-off for my part. And my sites=E2=80=99 relative simplicity makes= them faster and stabler. However, there=E2=80=99s no way I can keep up with= the changing internet. I=E2=80=99m just me myself and I. No marketing arm, d= edicated programming and design departments, etc. The thing that finally pus= hed me to quit my merchant account, besides the high fees, was when my Webdn= a integration quit working. As I am trying to retire, it was totally not wor= th my time to reprogram. It was easier to comment out the credit card option= and let PayPal stand. As for sales... massive traffic comes to Etsy. I sell the same stuff on my o= wn site, but honestly I can=E2=80=99t remember the last time I made a sale t= here. They are constant on Etsy though. That=E2=80=99s the reason for using E= tsy. As for Wordpress, I use it for a club I belong to. This way they can ho= st it at their existing host and I can move on and let someone else take ove= r without any disruption. I=E2=80=99m not a regular blogger, but I find Wor= dpress is nicer when interfacing with other bloggers. Like I say, the intern= et changes, and the rest of the world makes use of current options. I do sti= ll have custom sites that my clients could not have had with canned solution= s like Etsy or Wordpress. They are perfectly happy.=20 Those of you with large successful enterprises would naturally do things a l= ittle differently from small operators like myself. Sent from my iPad > On Dec 21, 2017, at 8:26 AM, Matthew A Perosi, Psi Prime wrote: >=20 > What if the wheel you invented predates WordPress by many years, is a more= stable solution, and is easier to manage? I get very tired of people telli= ng me that I should not have reinvented the wheel with my business software,= meanwhile I'm already on version 15 since it was first created in 1997. It= 's PCI compliant with a default install, it sniffs the difference between mo= bile/desktop/tablet and has the ability to dynamically serve page layouts fo= r each one rather than using responsive nonsense. I have a PayPal integratio= n from a few years ago, but nothing current. I also have the Authorize.net i= ntegration. >=20 > My first server room was also in the 90s with a T1 in a spare bedroom. No= w I have a fiber line with 1000IP addresses to my name. When dedicated IPs a= re needed, having your own server room still pays off in spades. >=20 > -Matt >=20 >=20 >=20 >> On 12/21/2017 11:05 AM, Terry Wilson wrote: >> And you think the credit card fees are fair? I=E2=80=99m not talking the s= tandard 3%, but the additional fees like gateway fees, commercial card fees,= compliance fees, monthly fees, and your own requirement of having an ssl do= main and the ssl fees that go along with that. PayPal has none of that, and l= ike square, they also give you a way to swipe cards on your phone. I=E2=80=99= m just about ready to cancel my long standing merchant account. Just one mor= e site taking cards that I have to deal with. >>=20 >> And speaking of running your own server, I started out in the 90s runnin= g my own server on a t-1 out of a spare bedroom, and saved a magnitude of mo= nthly cost when I went to a hosted solution. The internet is constantly chan= ging and we have to adapt, generally for the better. Nowadays, I=E2=80=99m s= elling MY OWN stuff on Etsy and retiring my lovingly crafted sites complete w= ith shopping cart and clever admin features. Furthermore, I=E2=80=99m using W= ordpress sometimes. And I=E2=80=99m steering clients that way too. There=E2=80= =99s money to be made setting up Wordpress sites. Except for some messing ar= ound in the beginning, I only created custom sites (I=E2=80=99m not taking n= ew work now; trying to retire) where there was no other solution. In other w= ords, I don=E2=80=99t believe in reinventing the wheel. It=E2=80=99s not fai= r to the client. There=E2=80=99s plenty of custom work to be had. Not sure h= ow I got on that tangent... >>=20 >> Terry W >>=20 >> Sent from my iPad >>=20 >>> On Dec 21, 2017, at 6:10 AM, Brian Harrington w= rote: >>>=20 >>> It's that kind thinking Ken that makes the rich richer and why we live >>> in the dominance of paypal, ebay, google, amazon, and apple! don't >>> give the small guys your credit card but give it to the big guys so >>> they can manipulate everything we do! Maybe give it to Trans Union so >>> they can charge us for credit protection after they give all our data >>> away! >>>=20 >>>> On 12/21/17, Kenneth Grome wrote: >>>> PayPal may be a PITA in terms of integration, but sales will >>>> increase when PayPal is added as a payment option ... or at least >>>> this is what I read somewhere online. I believe it, too: >>>>=20 >>>> I would much rather make my online purchases via PayPal than to >>>> have to enter my credit card values into an online form. Not only >>>> do PayPal transactions proceed faster, but the websites that offer >>>> PayPal never have a chance to see or store my credit card data. >>>>=20 >>>> Regards, >>>> Kenneth Grome >>>> WebDNA Solutions >>>> http://www.webdnasolutions.com >>>> Web Database Systems and Linux Server Administration >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>> On 12/21/2017 01:36 AM, Brian Harrington wrote: >>>>> Take the credit cards yourself! I hate them too! >>>>>=20 >>>>>> On 12/20/17, Stuart Tremain wrote: >>>>>> Just cracked another part of this - getting closer. >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> I HATE PayPal - have done for longer than I remember. >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> Kind regards >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> Stuart Tremain >>>>>> Pharoah Lane Software >>>>>> AUSTRALIA >>>>>> webdna@idfk.com.au >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> On 21 Dec 2017, at 14:58, Kenneth Grome >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> I have built a few that are getting old now. I wanted to build >>>>>>>> one on the newest platform. Am having a few issues with part of >>>>>>>> it. >>>>>>> Hi Stuart, >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> Let me know if/when you get this resolved. One of my clients is >>>>>>> (supposedly) going to be ready to add PayPal to his online store >>>>>>> next year, and if I proceed I want to use the newest platform too. >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>> Kenneth Grome >>>>>>> WebDNA Solutions >>>>>>> http://www.webdnasolutions.com >>>>>>> Web Database Systems and Linux Server Administration >>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>>>>>> the mailing list talk@webdna.us >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: talk-leave@webdna.us >>>>>>> archives: http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 >>>>>>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>>>>> the mailing list talk@webdna.us >>>>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: talk-leave@webdna.us >>>>>> archives: http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 >>>>>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >>>>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>>>> the mailing list talk@webdna.us >>>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: talk-leave@webdna.us >>>>> archives: http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 >>>>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >>>>>=20 >>>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>>> the mailing list talk@webdna.us >>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: talk-leave@webdna.us >>>> archives: http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 >>>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >>>>=20 >>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>> the mailing list talk@webdna.us >>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: talk-leave@webdna.us >>> archives: http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 >>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >> --------------------------------------------------------- >> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >> the mailing list talk@webdna.us >> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: talk-leave@webdna.us >> archives: http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 >> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >>=20 >>=20 > --=20 > Matthew A Perosi > Corporate Consultant > Mobile Marketing Expert > Senior Web Developer > SEO Analyst & Educator > matt@psiprime.com >=20 > Psi Prime > 323 Union Blvd. > Totowa, NJ 07512 >=20 > Direct: 888.872.0274 > Fax: 888.488.5924 >=20 > http://www.perosi.com >=20 > --------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list talk@webdna.us > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: talk-leave@webdna.us > archives: http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 > Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us --------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list talk@webdna.us To unsubscribe, E-mail to: talk-leave@webdna.us archives: http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us .
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