Re: [WebDNA] Mac Question

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It keeps the original formatting.
numero = 114447
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texte = 2066 --Apple-Mail=_6A07A43C-46F0-490E-BBB3-980CA78AD17A Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 With all the cloud based solutions available now, I would never go back = to my own mail server. The spam issues and network load can be someone else's problem as far as = I am concerned. I can buy a fully supported, cloud based mail service with as many = mailboxes as I like for AU$65 a year, considering a craft beer is AU$10, = I think that it is money well spent. Kind regards Stuart Tremain Pharoah Lane Software AUSTRALIA webdna@plsoftware.com.au > On 19 Oct 2018, at 07:21, Steve Craig wrote: >=20 > Hi >=20 > I would be very happy to go back to the client version as that=E2=80=99s= what I used to run, never really liked the server version, but I would = need to find a good cheap mail server, any suggestions anyone? >=20 > Cheers > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > Steve Craig - Forest Products (Leisure) Ltd > Tel +44 1330 860505 Mob +44 7778 007607 > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > http://www.forestlogcabins.com > Email: steve@forestlogcabins.com > Skype: s.craig - iChat: steve.craig > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >=20 > Standard terms and conditions available here = http://forestlogcabins.com/Terms.html > Any sketches or illustrations supplied are subject to possible small = changes on the final factory plans. >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >> On 18 Oct 2018, at 20:40, Palle Bo Nielsen > wrote: >>=20 >> I too love macOS X and intent to stay on the platform including = it=E2=80=99s best friend, WebDNA. >>=20 >> I was a macOS Server user but have migrated to macOS (client/normal) = version which I can control to the best of my effort. I do hope that = Chris and the WebDNA team will stick to macOS as my business is = dependant on it - as are many others as far as I can read on this = talklist. >>=20 >> I look forward to the next step from Chris=E2=80=99 hand - a webDNA = version for Mojave (macOS client). >>=20 >> /Palle >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>> On 18 Oct 2018, at 19.02, christophe.billiottet@webdna.us = wrote: >>>=20 >>> I love OSX and use it everyday. However, Apple made the server = version of OSX inconsistant, with deep changes of direction at each new = version, instead of adopting the UNIX/LINUX standards. >>>=20 >>> However, with little knowledge, OSX client can become a great = server. This is the path we will follow for the next WebDNA version for = Mojave. >>>=20 >>> - chris >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>> On Oct 18, 2018, at 19:53, Michael Davis > wrote: >>>>=20 >>>> All the "switch away from MacOS" on a support list is a bit = aggravating. It is, after all, a *nix derivative. I don't see "switch = away from Windows" as any less aggravating. I do all my dev work on a = MacBook Pro. I do a lot of work when I travel. So having WebDNA = running locally as my dev server is ideal. I can complete a project on = a flight to HI with no internet access. It's not about some sort of GUI = fixation. It's about getting work done. I run several servers with = various *nix flavors. I am fluent in bash and know the underlying MacOS = Unix quite well. Now, whether the community will be saved by a WebDNA = build for Docker, I don't know. I'm certainly not going to publicly = disparage someone or try to re-prioritize their thinking for that = belief. It's perfectly valid. Just like having a build for MacOS is. >>>>=20 >>>> Mike >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>> the mailing list talk@webdna.us >>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: talk-leave@webdna.us = >>> archives: http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 = >>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >>=20 >> --------------------------------------------------------- >> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >> the mailing list talk@webdna.us >> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: talk-leave@webdna.us = >> archives: http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 = >> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >>=20 >=20 > --------------------------------------------------------- This message = is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list = talk@webdna.us To unsubscribe, E-mail to: talk-leave@webdna.us archives: = http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 Bug Reporting: = support@webdna.us --Apple-Mail=_6A07A43C-46F0-490E-BBB3-980CA78AD17A Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 With = all the cloud based solutions available now, I would never go back to my = own mail server.

The = spam issues and network load can be someone else's problem as far as I = am concerned.

I = can buy a fully supported, cloud based mail service with as many = mailboxes as I like for AU$65 a year, considering a craft beer is AU$10, = I think that it is money well spent.

Kind regards

Stuart Tremain
Pharoah Lane Software
AUSTRALIA







On 19 Oct 2018, at 07:21, Steve Craig <steve@asylumweb.com>= wrote:

Hi

I would be very happy to go back to the = client version as that=E2=80=99s what I used to run, never really liked = the server version, but I would need to find a good cheap mail server, = any suggestions anyone?

Cheers
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
Steve Craig - Forest Products (Leisure) Ltd
Tel +44 1330 860505 Mob +44 7778 007607
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
http://www.forestlogcabins.com
Email: = steve@forestlogcabins.com
Skype: s.craig - iChat: = steve.craig
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
Standard terms and conditions = available here http://forestlogcabins.com/Terms.html
Any sketches or illustrations supplied are subject to = possible small changes on the final factory plans.






On 18 Oct 2018, at 20:40, Palle Bo Nielsen <powerpalle@powerpalle.dk> wrote:

I = too love macOS X and intent to stay on the platform including it=E2=80=99s= best friend, WebDNA.

I was a macOS Server = user but have migrated to macOS (client/normal) version which I can = control to the best of my effort. I do hope that Chris and the WebDNA = team will stick to macOS as my business is dependant on it - as are many = others as far as I can read on this talklist.

I look forward to the next step from Chris=E2=80=99 hand - a = webDNA version for Mojave (macOS client).

/Palle



On 18 Oct 2018, at = 19.02, christophe.billiottet@webdna.us wrote:

I love OSX and use it everyday. However, Apple made the = server version of OSX inconsistant, with deep changes of direction at = each new version, instead of adopting the UNIX/LINUX standards.

However, with little knowledge, OSX client can = become a great server. This is the path we will follow for the next = WebDNA version for Mojave.

- chris




On Oct 18, 2018, at = 19:53, Michael Davis <admin@network13.net> wrote:

All the "switch away from MacOS" on a support list is a bit = aggravating.  It is, after all, a *nix derivative.  I don't = see "switch away from Windows" as any less aggravating.  I do all = my dev work on a MacBook Pro.  I do a lot of work when I travel. =  So having WebDNA running locally as my dev server is ideal. =  I can complete a project on a flight to HI with no internet = access.  It's not about some sort of GUI fixation.  It's about = getting work done.  I run several servers with various *nix = flavors.  I am fluent in bash and know the underlying MacOS Unix = quite well.  Now, whether the community will be saved by a WebDNA = build for Docker, I don't know.  I'm certainly not going to = publicly disparage someone or try to re-prioritize their thinking for = that belief.  It's perfectly valid.  Just like having a build = for MacOS is.

Mike





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  1. Re: [WebDNA] Mac Question (Patrick McCormick 2018)
  2. Re: [WebDNA] Mac Question (Christer Olsson 2018)
  3. Re: [WebDNA] Mac Question ("IBS Ltd." 2018)
  4. Re: [WebDNA] Mac Question ("IBS Ltd." 2018)
  5. Re: [WebDNA] Mac Question (Stuart Tremain 2018)
  6. Re: [WebDNA] Mac Question (Steve Craig 2018)
  7. Re: [WebDNA] Mac Question (Palle Bo Nielsen 2018)
  8. Re: [WebDNA] Mac Question (Michael Davis 2018)
  9. Re: [WebDNA] Mac Question (christophe.billiottet@webdna.us 2018)
  10. Re: [WebDNA] Mac Question (Michael Davis 2018)
  11. Re: [WebDNA] Mac Question (Palle Bo Nielsen 2018)
  12. Re: [WebDNA] Mac Question (Steve Craig 2018)
  13. Re: [WebDNA] Mac Question (Christer Olsson 2018)
  14. Re: [WebDNA] Mac Question (Steve Craig 2018)
  15. Re: [WebDNA] Mac Question (Steve Craig 2018)
  16. Re: [WebDNA] Mac Question (christophe.billiottet@webdna.us 2018)
  17. Re: [WebDNA] Mac Question (Christer Olsson 2018)
  18. [WebDNA] Mac Question (Steve Craig 2018)
2066 --Apple-Mail=_6A07A43C-46F0-490E-BBB3-980CA78AD17A Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 With all the cloud based solutions available now, I would never go back = to my own mail server. The spam issues and network load can be someone else's problem as far as = I am concerned. I can buy a fully supported, cloud based mail service with as many = mailboxes as I like for AU$65 a year, considering a craft beer is AU$10, = I think that it is money well spent. Kind regards Stuart Tremain Pharoah Lane Software AUSTRALIA webdna@plsoftware.com.au > On 19 Oct 2018, at 07:21, Steve Craig wrote: >=20 > Hi >=20 > I would be very happy to go back to the client version as that=E2=80=99s= what I used to run, never really liked the server version, but I would = need to find a good cheap mail server, any suggestions anyone? >=20 > Cheers > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > Steve Craig - Forest Products (Leisure) Ltd > Tel +44 1330 860505 Mob +44 7778 007607 > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > http://www.forestlogcabins.com > Email: steve@forestlogcabins.com > Skype: s.craig - iChat: steve.craig > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >=20 > Standard terms and conditions available here = http://forestlogcabins.com/Terms.html > Any sketches or illustrations supplied are subject to possible small = changes on the final factory plans. >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >> On 18 Oct 2018, at 20:40, Palle Bo Nielsen > wrote: >>=20 >> I too love macOS X and intent to stay on the platform including = it=E2=80=99s best friend, WebDNA. >>=20 >> I was a macOS Server user but have migrated to macOS (client/normal) = version which I can control to the best of my effort. I do hope that = Chris and the WebDNA team will stick to macOS as my business is = dependant on it - as are many others as far as I can read on this = talklist. >>=20 >> I look forward to the next step from Chris=E2=80=99 hand - a webDNA = version for Mojave (macOS client). >>=20 >> /Palle >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>> On 18 Oct 2018, at 19.02, christophe.billiottet@webdna.us = wrote: >>>=20 >>> I love OSX and use it everyday. However, Apple made the server = version of OSX inconsistant, with deep changes of direction at each new = version, instead of adopting the UNIX/LINUX standards. >>>=20 >>> However, with little knowledge, OSX client can become a great = server. This is the path we will follow for the next WebDNA version for = Mojave. >>>=20 >>> - chris >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>> On Oct 18, 2018, at 19:53, Michael Davis > wrote: >>>>=20 >>>> All the "switch away from MacOS" on a support list is a bit = aggravating. It is, after all, a *nix derivative. I don't see "switch = away from Windows" as any less aggravating. I do all my dev work on a = MacBook Pro. I do a lot of work when I travel. So having WebDNA = running locally as my dev server is ideal. I can complete a project on = a flight to HI with no internet access. It's not about some sort of GUI = fixation. It's about getting work done. I run several servers with = various *nix flavors. I am fluent in bash and know the underlying MacOS = Unix quite well. Now, whether the community will be saved by a WebDNA = build for Docker, I don't know. I'm certainly not going to publicly = disparage someone or try to re-prioritize their thinking for that = belief. It's perfectly valid. Just like having a build for MacOS is. >>>>=20 >>>> Mike >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>> the mailing list talk@webdna.us >>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: talk-leave@webdna.us = >>> archives: http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 = >>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >>=20 >> --------------------------------------------------------- >> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >> the mailing list talk@webdna.us >> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: talk-leave@webdna.us = >> archives: http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 = >> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >>=20 >=20 > --------------------------------------------------------- This message = is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list = talk@webdna.us To unsubscribe, E-mail to: talk-leave@webdna.us archives: = http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 Bug Reporting: = support@webdna.us --Apple-Mail=_6A07A43C-46F0-490E-BBB3-980CA78AD17A Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 With = all the cloud based solutions available now, I would never go back to my = own mail server.

The = spam issues and network load can be someone else's problem as far as I = am concerned.

I = can buy a fully supported, cloud based mail service with as many = mailboxes as I like for AU$65 a year, considering a craft beer is AU$10, = I think that it is money well spent.

Kind regards

Stuart Tremain
Pharoah Lane Software
AUSTRALIA







On 19 Oct 2018, at 07:21, Steve Craig <steve@asylumweb.com>= wrote:

Hi

I would be very happy to go back to the = client version as that=E2=80=99s what I used to run, never really liked = the server version, but I would need to find a good cheap mail server, = any suggestions anyone?

Cheers
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
Steve Craig - Forest Products (Leisure) Ltd
Tel +44 1330 860505 Mob +44 7778 007607
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
http://www.forestlogcabins.com
Email: = steve@forestlogcabins.com
Skype: s.craig - iChat: = steve.craig
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
Standard terms and conditions = available here http://forestlogcabins.com/Terms.html
Any sketches or illustrations supplied are subject to = possible small changes on the final factory plans.






On 18 Oct 2018, at 20:40, Palle Bo Nielsen <powerpalle@powerpalle.dk> wrote:

I = too love macOS X and intent to stay on the platform including it=E2=80=99s= best friend, WebDNA.

I was a macOS Server = user but have migrated to macOS (client/normal) version which I can = control to the best of my effort. I do hope that Chris and the WebDNA = team will stick to macOS as my business is dependant on it - as are many = others as far as I can read on this talklist.

I look forward to the next step from Chris=E2=80=99 hand - a = webDNA version for Mojave (macOS client).

/Palle



On 18 Oct 2018, at = 19.02, christophe.billiottet@webdna.us wrote:

I love OSX and use it everyday. However, Apple made the = server version of OSX inconsistant, with deep changes of direction at = each new version, instead of adopting the UNIX/LINUX standards.

However, with little knowledge, OSX client can = become a great server. This is the path we will follow for the next = WebDNA version for Mojave.

- chris




On Oct 18, 2018, at = 19:53, Michael Davis <admin@network13.net> wrote:

All the "switch away from MacOS" on a support list is a bit = aggravating.  It is, after all, a *nix derivative.  I don't = see "switch away from Windows" as any less aggravating.  I do all = my dev work on a MacBook Pro.  I do a lot of work when I travel. =  So having WebDNA running locally as my dev server is ideal. =  I can complete a project on a flight to HI with no internet = access.  It's not about some sort of GUI fixation.  It's about = getting work done.  I run several servers with various *nix = flavors.  I am fluent in bash and know the underlying MacOS Unix = quite well.  Now, whether the community will be saved by a WebDNA = build for Docker, I don't know.  I'm certainly not going to = publicly disparage someone or try to re-prioritize their thinking for = that belief.  It's perfectly valid.  Just like having a build = for MacOS is.

Mike





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