Re: mass mailing
This WebDNA talk-list message is from 1998
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numero = 19900
interpreted = N
texte = Kenneth Grome wrote: > > >> WebCatalog is very fast when it writes the email files -- in my experience, > >> it writes one message a tick -- so they can be written in one big batch, > >> and then you can use the Send Mail Every x ticks preference to control > >> how often Emailer tries to connect to your mail server, and thus keep the > >> load down. > > >The last mailing I did was 15,000 pieces and you think it will run > >smooth if I send them all on one page in [founditems]? > > Yes, of course it will -- or it SHOULD. Most mail servers have no problem with the speed at which Emailer sends its mail when used at the default setting of 300 ticks, that's a pretty slow speed for most mail servers. > > >When Sonic Mail > >Server gets about 300 pieces of mail in the outgoing file, it shuts > >down. I've given it more ram and played with the settings and that was > >the best results that I could get from Sonic Mail Server. > > Sonic seems to have some serious limitations, maybe that's why most everyone else uses EIMS or SIMS or their ISP's UNIX-based mail server as the designated SMTP server. > > >I'm not > >questioning the ability of WebCatalog to do its job. My Emilers ticks > >are set at 300 and also NOTES Do not lower this number unless your mail > >server can handle a faster load. and Sonic Mial Server or any mail > >server can't handle what WebCatalog can through at it. > > Well, you're making erroneous assumptions here. First of all, WebCat doesn't throw anything at your SMTP server, it's the Emailer program that does the mail sending. And second, most mail servers can handle *much* faster feeds than one message every 5 seconds, which is what Emailer uses at the default setting of 300 ticks. > > For example, EIMS, SIMS, and most every UNIX-based email server can handle far faster mail feeds than Emailer sends them. Sonic just doesn't seem to be a very robust SMTP server if it cannot even handle one message every 5 seconds ... :( > > >Like I said > >before, my mail idea was for large mailings (mass mailing). > > Since you're saddled by the Sonic Mail Server's relatively severe limitations, it is interesting that you have figured out a way to use WebDNA and a meta tag to slow down the speed at which Sonic receives each message. Then again, it doesn't take webdna code or html to do that, because Dave suggested increasing the tick value in the Emailer prefs to something higher than 300, which seems to me to be a much simpler and more elegant solution. > > Personally I cannot imagine wanting to stop a mass-mailing in the middle of the process, so using a meta-refresh tag to control the speed of the mailing would never be something I would want to do ... but hey, if it works for you, great! :) > > Sincerely, > Ken Grome > 808-737-6499 > WebDNA Solutions > mailto:ken@webdna.net > http://www.webdna.net You all have missed the boat.. You can put 1 (single) email per page OR you can put any number per page. That's what the &max= is for! Then you can set the next time the page will load &load=. The [math] will take you to the next group of [founditems]. Did any of you actually send more that 10,000 emails with a single page load? If emailer and your EIMS or SIMS is so great them why does emailer TELL you lowering the ticks may overload your mail server! You obviously never sent mass mailings with WebCatalog and don't know what you are talking about! :( You also don't have to voice your opinion on every Talk message especially when you don't have a better solution or did I miss a message that told me how to send bulk or mass email with WebCatalog! :(
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Kenneth Grome wrote: > > >> WebCatalog is very fast when it writes the email files -- in my experience, > >> it writes one message a tick -- so they can be written in one big batch, > >> and then you can use the Send Mail Every x ticks preference to control > >> how often Emailer tries to connect to your mail server, and thus keep the > >> load down. > > >The last mailing I did was 15,000 pieces and you think it will run > >smooth if I send them all on one page in
[founditems]? > > Yes, of course it will -- or it SHOULD. Most mail servers have no problem with the speed at which Emailer sends its mail when used at the default setting of 300 ticks, that's a pretty slow speed for most mail servers. > > >When Sonic Mail > >Server gets about 300 pieces of mail in the outgoing file, it shuts > >down. I've given it more ram and played with the settings and that was > >the best results that I could get from Sonic Mail Server. > > Sonic seems to have some serious limitations, maybe that's why most everyone else uses EIMS or SIMS or their ISP's UNIX-based mail server as the designated SMTP server. > > >I'm not > >questioning the ability of WebCatalog to do its job. My Emilers ticks > >are set at 300 and also NOTES Do not lower this number unless your mail > >server can handle a faster load. and Sonic Mial Server or any mail > >server can't handle what WebCatalog can through at it. > > Well, you're making erroneous assumptions here. First of all, WebCat doesn't throw anything at your SMTP server, it's the Emailer program that does the mail sending. And second, most mail servers can handle *much* faster feeds than one message every 5 seconds, which is what Emailer uses at the default setting of 300 ticks. > > For example, EIMS, SIMS, and most every UNIX-based email server can handle far faster mail feeds than Emailer sends them. Sonic just doesn't seem to be a very robust SMTP server if it cannot even handle one message every 5 seconds ... :( > > >Like I said > >before, my mail idea was for large mailings (mass mailing). > > Since you're saddled by the Sonic Mail Server's relatively severe limitations, it is interesting that you have figured out a way to use WebDNA and a meta tag to slow down the speed at which Sonic receives each message. Then again, it doesn't take webdna code or html to do that, because Dave suggested increasing the tick value in the Emailer prefs to something higher than 300, which seems to me to be a much simpler and more elegant solution. > > Personally I cannot imagine wanting to stop a mass-mailing in the middle of the process, so using a meta-refresh tag to control the speed of the mailing would never be something I would want to do ... but hey, if it works for you, great! :) > > Sincerely, > Ken Grome > 808-737-6499 > WebDNA Solutions > mailto:ken@webdna.net > http://www.webdna.net You all have missed the boat.. You can put 1 (single) email per page OR you can put any number per page. That's what the &max= is for! Then you can set the next time the page will load &load=. The
[math] will take you to the next group of
[founditems]. Did any of you actually send more that 10,000 emails with a single page load? If emailer and your EIMS or SIMS is so great them why does emailer TELL you lowering the ticks may overload your mail server! You obviously never sent mass mailings with WebCatalog and don't know what you are talking about! :( You also don't have to voice your opinion on every Talk message especially when you don't have a better solution or did I miss a message that told me how to send bulk or mass email with WebCatalog! :(
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