Re: Yet another db manager
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texte = I'm glad to see this project being opensourced. I think we're working on some sort of royalty free license that is not GPL. This way we can all use the code the way we want. I'm also glad to see this happen in the WebDNA world because it happens plenty in other web scripting languages. Perhaps a WebDNA sourceforge type movement can help us all. I know that if could offer the right tools, I could get many more projects from clients. And, despite the debate about the merits of WebDNA versus PHP, I think the tools offered to clients are more and more are not built from scratch solutions but off the shelf customizable solutions that can be resold many times over. I'd really like to see a bunch of useful and customizable features added to this database project and I know I'll contribute more as time goes by. I'd love to see the searching and sorting improved. I'd also like to hear what people think can be done about the architecture of the project. What should be stored in a preferences file, where should the preferences file be located, and the like. I think there may be other areas where WebDNA needs to create some open source competition. For example a search engine friendly bulletin board. I'd like to see a WebDNA (and MySQL if appropriate) solution developed with open source. Other languages have similar solutions, but I think it's time for a best of breed WebDNA solution. Similarly a content management system that is open source is desperately needed for WebDNA. Finally, I'd really love to see a BBEdit language module (syntax coloring, not a glossary of code snippets). Is anyone willing to either undertake this or to give money to find a programmer who'll do it for us? Ken, do you have a programmer who could do the BBEdit language module for us? By creating these tools as a community, WebDNA would have the basic tools for site building that could then be customized for specific projects using a flexible, easy syntax. Bill -----Original Message----- From: Palle Bo Nielsen
Sent: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 21:33:29 +0100 To: (WebDNA Talk) Subject: Re: Yet another db manager Hi all WebDNA developers, The WebDNA Digger is progressing very well. New source code contributions has been received and new functionality is being worked on. If you feel that this WebDNA template is worth while, then please make a visit at www.powerpalle.dk where you can read more about the project. It is still my hope that more WebDNA developers will join the effort. Let's see... If the project is successful then I will add my messageboard (forum) to the site to discuss the project (WebDNA Digger) and other Open Source projects which we might start up. Currently I am thinking of releasing one of my other WebDNA templates as Open Source too but I will wait and see if there is any interest in working together on this one first. Again, take a look at... http://www.powerpalle.dk/ (very tiny page, but it's a start) Palle On 18/1-2004, at 22.01, devaulw@onebox.com wrote: > This looks great. I'll put together some ideas and code from what I'd > been preparing. I can see this taking shape now that we've got some > momentum behind it. > I'm thinking about an undo or confirm delete function. Unfortunately > I'm speaking from experience. > > Bill > > -----Original Message----- > From: Palle Bo Nielsen > Sent: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 21:05:41 +0100 > To: (WebDNA Talk) > Subject: Re: Yet another db manager > > Hi Bill, > > Okay, the restriction on which row that must contain the unique value > has been removed. Per default it is row #1, but the user can change > this to ANY row. A row which has been selected as carrying the unique > values is now being indicated by vertical color-coding. Is this a good > enough solution? > > I will continue working on the template but I will probably not > release any new versions until I get some more feedback. And since > this is day 1 (T=0) there is plenty of time for that. > > Anyway, I think it could be fun to produce an Open Source Admin Tool > for all of us to use (if interested). If the interest is not mutural - > well, then I just develop the functionality I need and no hard > feelings. > > The most recent version has been uploaded with a lot of enhancements, > new functionality and optimization (and a couple of smaller bug fixes > too) hope you like ...: > > http://www.powerpalle.dk/digger_v05.tpl.zip > > Palle > > On 18/1-2004, at 18.43, devaulw@onebox.com wrote: > >> Since you are open sourcing this, can we all make suggestions? I'd >> remove the restriction on which row must contain the unique value for >> each record. >> I've also tried to create (never finished though) my own database >> manager to create pages that can users can access. Perhaps some of >> that code or at least logic can be contributed to this. >> Perhaps a myPHPadmin subset would work well for most WebDNA >> developers. >> Bill >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Gary Krockover >> Sent: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 11:21:29 -0600 >> To: (WebDNA Talk) >> Subject: Re: Yet another db manager >> >> For larger databases, yeah, I would think that would be a highly >> desirable feature (if not needed). Optimally, you could have it sort >> by up to 3 (or more?) fields, or, if you incorporate my query >> builder, the user could enter a search string to see the results >> desired, and then have the option to modify a record. And if you >> wanted to go a step further, give it the option of being able to >> modify all visible records at once. I have working code for that >> part of it if you need. >> >> GK >> >> At 10:44 AM 1/18/2004, you wrote: >>> Hi Gary, >>> >>> Will it make a difference if you are able to choose the fieldtype? >>> In other words, should it be a requirement within the functionality >>> of the Digger template? >>> >>> PS. New version ready online with some new features and optimized >>> code...: >>> >>> http://www.powerpalle.dk/diggerv3.tpl.zip >>> >>> Palle >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------- >> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >> the mailing list . >> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >> >> Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------- >> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >> the mailing list . >> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >> >> Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ >> >> > > -- > Venlig hilsen > Palle B. Nielsen (PowerPalle) > http://www.macnyt.dk/ > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to > > Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ > > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to > > Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ > > -- Venlig hilsen Palle B. Nielsen (PowerPalle) http://www.macnyt.dk/ ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . 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I'm glad to see this project being opensourced. I think we're working on some sort of royalty free license that is not GPL. This way we can all use the code the way we want. I'm also glad to see this happen in the WebDNA world because it happens plenty in other web scripting languages. Perhaps a WebDNA sourceforge type movement can help us all. I know that if could offer the right tools, I could get many more projects from clients. And, despite the debate about the merits of WebDNA versus PHP, I think the tools offered to clients are more and more are not built from scratch solutions but off the shelf customizable solutions that can be resold many times over. I'd really like to see a bunch of useful and customizable features added to this database project and I know I'll contribute more as time goes by. I'd love to see the searching and sorting improved. I'd also like to hear what people think can be done about the architecture of the project. What should be stored in a preferences file, where should the preferences file be located, and the like. I think there may be other areas where WebDNA needs to create some open source competition. For example a search engine friendly bulletin board. I'd like to see a WebDNA (and MySQL if appropriate) solution developed with open source. Other languages have similar solutions, but I think it's time for a best of breed WebDNA solution. Similarly a content management system that is open source is desperately needed for WebDNA. Finally, I'd really love to see a BBEdit language module (syntax coloring, not a glossary of code snippets). Is anyone willing to either undertake this or to give money to find a programmer who'll do it for us? Ken, do you have a programmer who could do the BBEdit language module for us? By creating these tools as a community, WebDNA would have the basic tools for site building that could then be customized for specific projects using a flexible, easy syntax. Bill -----Original Message----- From: Palle Bo Nielsen Sent: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 21:33:29 +0100 To: (WebDNA Talk) Subject: Re: Yet another db manager Hi all WebDNA developers, The WebDNA Digger is progressing very well. New source code contributions has been received and new functionality is being worked on. If you feel that this WebDNA template is worth while, then please make a visit at www.powerpalle.dk where you can read more about the project. It is still my hope that more WebDNA developers will join the effort. Let's see... If the project is successful then I will add my messageboard (forum) to the site to discuss the project (WebDNA Digger) and other Open Source projects which we might start up. Currently I am thinking of releasing one of my other WebDNA templates as Open Source too but I will wait and see if there is any interest in working together on this one first. Again, take a look at... http://www.powerpalle.dk/ (very tiny page, but it's a start) Palle On 18/1-2004, at 22.01, devaulw@onebox.com wrote: > This looks great. I'll put together some ideas and code from what I'd > been preparing. I can see this taking shape now that we've got some > momentum behind it. > I'm thinking about an undo or confirm delete function. Unfortunately > I'm speaking from experience. > > Bill > > -----Original Message----- > From: Palle Bo Nielsen > Sent: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 21:05:41 +0100 > To: (WebDNA Talk) > Subject: Re: Yet another db manager > > Hi Bill, > > Okay, the restriction on which row that must contain the unique value > has been removed. Per default it is row #1, but the user can change > this to ANY row. A row which has been selected as carrying the unique > values is now being indicated by vertical color-coding. Is this a good > enough solution? > > I will continue working on the template but I will probably not > release any new versions until I get some more feedback. And since > this is day 1 (T=0) there is plenty of time for that. > > Anyway, I think it could be fun to produce an Open Source Admin Tool > for all of us to use (if interested). If the interest is not mutural - > well, then I just develop the functionality I need and no hard > feelings. > > The most recent version has been uploaded with a lot of enhancements, > new functionality and optimization (and a couple of smaller bug fixes > too) hope you like ...: > > http://www.powerpalle.dk/digger_v05.tpl.zip > > Palle > > On 18/1-2004, at 18.43, devaulw@onebox.com wrote: > >> Since you are open sourcing this, can we all make suggestions? I'd >> remove the restriction on which row must contain the unique value for >> each record. >> I've also tried to create (never finished though) my own database >> manager to create pages that can users can access. Perhaps some of >> that code or at least logic can be contributed to this. >> Perhaps a myPHPadmin subset would work well for most WebDNA >> developers. >> Bill >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Gary Krockover >> Sent: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 11:21:29 -0600 >> To: (WebDNA Talk) >> Subject: Re: Yet another db manager >> >> For larger databases, yeah, I would think that would be a highly >> desirable feature (if not needed). Optimally, you could have it sort >> by up to 3 (or more?) fields, or, if you incorporate my query >> builder, the user could enter a search string to see the results >> desired, and then have the option to modify a record. And if you >> wanted to go a step further, give it the option of being able to >> modify all visible records at once. I have working code for that >> part of it if you need. >> >> GK >> >> At 10:44 AM 1/18/2004, you wrote: >>> Hi Gary, >>> >>> Will it make a difference if you are able to choose the fieldtype? >>> In other words, should it be a requirement within the functionality >>> of the Digger template? >>> >>> PS. New version ready online with some new features and optimized >>> code...: >>> >>> http://www.powerpalle.dk/diggerv3.tpl.zip >>> >>> Palle >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------- >> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >> the mailing list . >> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >> >> Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------- >> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >> the mailing list . >> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >> >> Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ >> >> > > -- > Venlig hilsen > Palle B. Nielsen (PowerPalle) > http://www.macnyt.dk/ > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to > > Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ > > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to > > Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ > > -- Venlig hilsen Palle B. Nielsen (PowerPalle) http://www.macnyt.dk/ ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . 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