Re: Two options to consider
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numero = 70189
interpreted = N
texte = Makes sense.... In for opt 2...Rob..On 16-Apr-08, at 9:04 PM, Dan Strong wrote:> I say we try option #2 first. My wife works in a law firm and I have =20=> friends who are lawyers, one of whom is an IP attorney in SM's =20> backyard (San Diego). Perhaps they'd be willing to settle for some =20> version of option #1 after looking down the barrel of a class-=20> action. I'm really not happy with these ass-clowns at the moment. =20> Either way, we should move this dicussion off-list, IMO, if we hope =20=> to have any kind of true leverage. I'd be willing to host a list (I =20=> use Communigate as well), as I'm sure others would, but allow me to =20=> be the first to offer.> -Dan>>> On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 12:15:58 +1200> "Diane Blackmore (Cohesion)"
wrote:>> Hi>> Since everyone's experiencing so much fun with WebDNA at the =20>> moment, and>> we're all on the same page with that we love WebDNA but not =20>> SmithMicro for>> how they've treated us and their software product, what does =20>> everyone think>> about either of the following options;>> 1. Presenting SM with a collective option to sell WebDNA (or even =20=>> better,>> make open source). If we all have sufficient interest, it may be =20>> possible to>> get them to loosen their grip on their IP, or enter into some sort =20=>> of JV.>> "If you don't ask, you don't get". OR;>> 2. Assembling a class action law suit against SM for fraudulently>> mis-representing their intentions with WebDNA to mislead customers =20=>> (us) into>> thinking that our development platform had a future, thereby =20>> promoting sales>> of a product that they knew to be defunct.>> Any takers on either option?? I'll volunteer to head up either =20>> effort if I>> can be assured of some support - If no-one is keen, my war would be =20=>> in vain>> if I won it just to be the last one on the planet using it.>> Let me know people.......>> Thanks,>> on 15/4/08 5:54 PM, Stuart Tremain at webdna@idfk.com.au wrote:>>> Thanks Christer :)>>> Regards>>> Stuart Tremain>>> IDFK Web Developments>>> AUSTRALIA>>> webdna@idfk.com.au>>> On 15/04/2008, at 3:35 PM, Christer Olsson wrote:>>>> It's all in the RFC:>>>> >>>> Basically you should just have to add "&secure=3D" to your =SETCOOKIE>>>> tag, but WebDNA doesn't seem to add the attribute, so you have to>>>> use a simple hack instead: add the text "; to your value parameter,>>>> like>>>> [SETCOOKIE name=3DmySecureCookie2&value=3DHello!; =secure&domain=3Dwww.mydomain.com>>>> ]>>>> Best,>>>> Christer>>>> *************************************************************>>>> Christer Olsson PO Box 9160 Phone +46 40 25 85 85>>>> Ljusa Id=E9er AB SE-200 39 Malmo Fax +46 40 25 85 89>>>> Kantyxegatan 5 Sweden http://www.ljusaideer.se>>>> 15 apr 2008 kl. 01.00 skrev Stuart Tremain:>>>>> Any ideas on the cookies ????>>>>> Regards>>>>> Stuart Tremain>>>>> IDFK Web Developments>>>>> AUSTRALIA>>>>> webdna@idfk.com.au>>>>> On 12/04/2008, at 7:24 AM, Stuart Tremain wrote:>>>>>> I have had a hacker safe report about a site that returns a>>>>>> vulnerability:>>>>>> "Missing Secure Attribute in an Encrypted Session (SSL) Cookie">>>>>> Is there a secure switch in the WebDNA [SetCookie] ?>>>>>> Or would I just put :443 on the end of the domain ?>>>>>> Regards>>>>>> Stuart Tremain>>>>>> IDFK Web Developments>>>>>> AUSTRALIA>>>>>> webdna@idfk.com.au>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------->>>>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to>>>>>> the mailing list .>>>>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>>>> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to>>>>>> >>>>> Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------->>>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to>>>>> the mailing list .>>>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>>> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to>>>>> >>>> Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------->>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to>>>> the mailing list .>>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to>>>> >>> Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/>>> ------------------------------------------------------------->>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to>>> the mailing list .>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to>>> >>> Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/>> ------------------------------------------------------------->> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to>> the mailing list .>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to => >>> Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/>>> -------------------------------------------------------------> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to> the mailing list .> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to = >> Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/-------------------------------------------------------------This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list .To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/
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Makes sense.... In for opt 2...Rob..On 16-Apr-08, at 9:04 PM, Dan Strong wrote:> I say we try option #2 first. My wife works in a law firm and I have =20=> friends who are lawyers, one of whom is an IP attorney in SM's =20> backyard (San Diego). Perhaps they'd be willing to settle for some =20> version of option #1 after looking down the barrel of a class-=20> action. I'm really not happy with these ass-clowns at the moment. =20> Either way, we should move this dicussion off-list, IMO, if we hope =20=> to have any kind of true leverage. I'd be willing to host a list (I =20=> use Communigate as well), as I'm sure others would, but allow me to =20=> be the first to offer.> -Dan>>> On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 12:15:58 +1200> "Diane Blackmore (Cohesion)" wrote:>> Hi>> Since everyone's experiencing so much fun with WebDNA at the =20>> moment, and>> we're all on the same page with that we love WebDNA but not =20>> SmithMicro for>> how they've treated us and their software product, what does =20>> everyone think>> about either of the following options;>> 1. Presenting SM with a collective option to sell WebDNA (or even =20=>> better,>> make open source). If we all have sufficient interest, it may be =20>> possible to>> get them to loosen their grip on their IP, or enter into some sort =20=>> of JV.>> "If you don't ask, you don't get". OR;>> 2. Assembling a class action law suit against SM for fraudulently>> mis-representing their intentions with WebDNA to mislead customers =20=>> (us) into>> thinking that our development platform had a future, thereby =20>> promoting sales>> of a product that they knew to be defunct.>> Any takers on either option?? I'll volunteer to head up either =20>> effort if I>> can be assured of some support - If no-one is keen, my war would be =20=>> in vain>> if I won it just to be the last one on the planet using it.>> Let me know people.......>> Thanks,>> on 15/4/08 5:54 PM, Stuart Tremain at webdna@idfk.com.au wrote:>>> Thanks Christer :)>>> Regards>>> Stuart Tremain>>> IDFK Web Developments>>> AUSTRALIA>>> webdna@idfk.com.au>>> On 15/04/2008, at 3:35 PM, Christer Olsson wrote:>>>> It's all in the RFC:>>>> >>>> Basically you should just have to add "&secure=3D" to your =SETCOOKIE>>>> tag, but WebDNA doesn't seem to add the attribute, so you have to>>>> use a simple hack instead: add the text "; to your value parameter,>>>> like>>>> [SETCOOKIE name=3DmySecureCookie2&value=3DHello!; =secure&domain=3Dwww.mydomain.com>>>> ]>>>> Best,>>>> Christer>>>> *************************************************************>>>> Christer Olsson PO Box 9160 Phone +46 40 25 85 85>>>> Ljusa Id=E9er AB SE-200 39 Malmo Fax +46 40 25 85 89>>>> Kantyxegatan 5 Sweden http://www.ljusaideer.se>>>> 15 apr 2008 kl. 01.00 skrev Stuart Tremain:>>>>> Any ideas on the cookies ????>>>>> Regards>>>>> Stuart Tremain>>>>> IDFK Web Developments>>>>> AUSTRALIA>>>>> webdna@idfk.com.au>>>>> On 12/04/2008, at 7:24 AM, Stuart Tremain wrote:>>>>>> I have had a hacker safe report about a site that returns a>>>>>> vulnerability:>>>>>> "Missing Secure Attribute in an Encrypted Session (SSL) Cookie">>>>>> Is there a secure switch in the WebDNA [SetCookie] ?>>>>>> Or would I just put :443 on the end of the domain ?>>>>>> Regards>>>>>> Stuart Tremain>>>>>> IDFK Web Developments>>>>>> AUSTRALIA>>>>>> webdna@idfk.com.au>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------->>>>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to>>>>>> the mailing list .>>>>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>>>> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to>>>>>> >>>>> Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------->>>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to>>>>> the mailing list .>>>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>>> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to>>>>> >>>> Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------->>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to>>>> the mailing list .>>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to>>>> >>> Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/>>> ------------------------------------------------------------->>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to>>> the mailing list .>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to>>> >>> Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/>> ------------------------------------------------------------->> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to>> the mailing list .>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to => >>> Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/>>> -------------------------------------------------------------> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to> the mailing list .> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to = >> Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/-------------------------------------------------------------This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list .To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/
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