RE: [WebDNA] a major shift in strategy?
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texte = This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C92C20.C31EF7BA Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Strategy? Think marketing and business not tech=85 I have been a WebDNA fan since I bought the original plug-in for 5 grand = over ten years ago. I have no where near the programming and =93tech=94 = ability of those that I see commenting on the talk lists =96 in fact, = half of the talk list comments are greek to me. I continue to contract = out to some true WebDNA experts that have been with the software for = years. I will share the observations that I shared with Smith Micro =96 = who I feel we all agree mismanaged and had little care for supporting = WebDNA. As stated by Olin - Creating, managing, extending, modifying,? searching = and editing databases is about as easy as it gets. Bottom line =96 it is = VERY simple and VERY powerful=85 Hell, I=92m a designer and I have = managed to create some pretty powerful solutions (even without the = support of my contacted friends). In my graduate schools days, I had a genius of a professor who was = extremely successful (and quite wealthy) =96 he did nt have to teach, = rather he chose to do so - he pointed out to students that companies and = products will exist by falling into one of the following categories =96 = They will: Fail. (or) Survive. (or) Thrive.=20 WebDNA has survived. I have shared this rather controversial position before privately, but = this time I throw it to the public forum and let you guys think about = it. WebDNA will never thrive as long as Php and MySQL is available for free = =96 and it looks as if this will never change. If you polled WebDNA = users over the years you will see that MANY have migrated to Php/MySql = already. It has such a wide user base, tremendous support, is free and = is supported by nearly every major hosting company. My repeated suggestion =96 MAKE WEBDNA FREE and OPEN SOURCE. It is the = only way for WebDNA to thrive. WebDNA can=92t be making any real revenue = with the prices at 65 per domain or 499 for unlimited domains? Refocus = revenue generation on DEVELOPED SOLUTIONS, GENERAL SUPPORT and CUSTOM = SOLUTIONS SUPPORT AND PROGRAMMING. The ability to create custom = solutions by all of you high-end programmers will always be present. This could potentially increase the install base at hosting companies on = a massive scale =96 how many times have we seen people simply looking = for a hosting company for WebDNA solutions? This in turn would lead to = more exposure, availability and users. There is currently tons of revenue being generated by solidly programmed = php solutions. In fact, if research were to be done across-the-board, = you would see that well programmed and intuitively designed php = solutions are being sold for more that the current cost of WebDNA? It must gain a much wider base or it will always remain a cool = technology with a small and specialized following =96 and it will simply = survive. I believe Olin=92s comments about the interface tool and positioning vs = php/mySQL is sharp and on target=85=20 Please understand =96 I believe in WebDNA and I truly believe it can = catch fire if =93marketed=94 correctly. Sorry if I stirred the bee = hive=85 Aloha, Davo (by way of Kauai, Savannah and now Louisville) -----Original Message----- From: Donovan Brooke [mailto:dbrooke@webdna.us] Sent: Fri 10/10/2008 6:01 PM To: talk@webdna.us Subject: Re: [WebDNA] a major shift in strategy? =20 Olin Lagon wrote: [snip] > 2. Have a web based interface to completely manage databases that = blows > phpmyadmin way out of the water. The interface should also have a = query > builder so folks getting started and build queries visually. This tool > creates, manages, edits, deletes, merges, etc. databases. Have a = sandbox > folks can play with online. I think this would be a great tool to end up as being accessible to the = community. How that happens.. well, there are many ways it could happen.... We could eventually build one, once our priorities permit. However, another idea is to create an "open.webdna.us" area... that is kind of like a sourceforge for WebDNA. I envision this being a place where the community could download free projects for use, and more imporantly, = contribute to them.. maybe using WebDNA's newer CMS/RVS feature set. I know some of you guys/gals already have some very good tools. Brian = Fries has a great start to some Database tools.. not sure what his plans are for those. Anyway, just wanted to say for right now, these ideas don't go = un-noticed. Donovan --=20 Donovan D. Brooke PH/FAX: 1 (608) 291-2024 ---------------------------------------------- VP WebDNA Software Corporation 16192 Coastal Highway Lewes, DE 19958 --------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list
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This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C92C20.C31EF7BA Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Strategy? Think marketing and business not tech=85 I have been a WebDNA fan since I bought the original plug-in for 5 grand = over ten years ago. I have no where near the programming and =93tech=94 = ability of those that I see commenting on the Talk Lists =96 in fact, = half of the Talk List comments are greek to me. I continue to contract = out to some true WebDNA experts that have been with the software for = years. I will share the observations that I shared with Smith Micro =96 = who I feel we all agree mismanaged and had little care for supporting = WebDNA. As stated by Olin - Creating, managing, extending, modifying,? searching = and editing databases is about as easy as it gets. Bottom line =96 it is = VERY simple and VERY powerful=85 Hell, I=92m a designer and I have = managed to create some pretty powerful solutions (even without the = support of my contacted friends). In my graduate schools days, I had a genius of a professor who was = extremely successful (and quite wealthy) =96 he did nt have to teach, = rather he chose to do so - he pointed out to students that companies and = products will exist by falling into one of the following categories =96 = They will: Fail. (or) Survive. (or) Thrive.=20 WebDNA has survived. I have shared this rather controversial position before privately, but = this time I throw it to the public forum and let you guys think about = it. WebDNA will never thrive as long as Php and MySQL is available for free = =96 and it looks as if this will never change. If you polled WebDNA = users over the years you will see that MANY have migrated to Php/MySql = already. It has such a wide user base, tremendous support, is free and = is supported by nearly every major hosting company. My repeated suggestion =96 MAKE WEBDNA FREE and OPEN SOURCE. It is the = only way for WebDNA to thrive. WebDNA can=92t be making any real revenue = with the prices at 65 per domain or 499 for unlimited domains? Refocus = revenue generation on DEVELOPED SOLUTIONS, GENERAL SUPPORT and CUSTOM = SOLUTIONS SUPPORT AND PROGRAMMING. The ability to create custom = solutions by all of you high-end programmers will always be present. This could potentially increase the install base at hosting companies on = a massive scale =96 how many times have we seen people simply looking = for a hosting company for WebDNA solutions? This in turn would lead to = more exposure, availability and users. There is currently tons of revenue being generated by solidly programmed = php solutions. In fact, if research were to be done across-the-board, = you would see that well programmed and intuitively designed php = solutions are being sold for more that the current cost of WebDNA? It must gain a much wider base or it will always remain a cool = technology with a small and specialized following =96 and it will simply = survive. I believe Olin=92s comments about the interface tool and positioning vs = php/mySQL is sharp and on target=85=20 Please understand =96 I believe in WebDNA and I truly believe it can = catch fire if =93marketed=94 correctly. Sorry if I stirred the bee = hive=85 Aloha, Davo (by way of Kauai, Savannah and now Louisville) -----Original Message----- From: Donovan Brooke [mailto:dbrooke@webdna.us] Sent: Fri 10/10/2008 6:01 PM To: talk@webdna.us Subject: Re: [WebDNA] a major shift in strategy? =20 Olin Lagon wrote: [snip] > 2. Have a web based interface to completely manage databases that = blows > phpmyadmin way out of the water. The interface should also have a = query > builder so folks getting started and build queries visually. This tool > creates, manages, edits, deletes, merges, etc. databases. Have a = sandbox > folks can play with online. I think this would be a great tool to end up as being accessible to the = community. How that happens.. well, there are many ways it could happen.... We could eventually build one, once our priorities permit. However, another idea is to create an "open.webdna.us" area... that is kind of like a sourceforge for WebDNA. I envision this being a place where the community could download free projects for use, and more imporantly, = contribute to them.. maybe using WebDNA's newer CMS/RVS feature set. I know some of you guys/gals already have some very good tools. Brian = Fries has a great start to some Database tools.. not sure what his plans are for those. Anyway, just wanted to say for right now, these ideas don't go = un-noticed. Donovan --=20 Donovan D. 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