Re: [BULK] Re: [WebDNA] Snow Leopard Server install problems

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2010

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texte = Dear Christophe,Thanks for the reply, and I know it was a part of the install earlier =on.Why can't WebDNA reintroduce this... Is your installer not able to =insert the ScriptAlias?PalleOn 25/06/2010, at 19.26, christophe.billiottet@webdna.us wrote:> It was, until 10.5. For 10.6, the ScriptAlias line has been removed by =Apple and must be manually added...>=20> - chris>=20>=20> On Jun 25, 2010, at 14:15, Palle Bo Nielsen wrote:>=20>> Although I do not have the direct answer; I do have the following =question (sorry about hijacking the thread).>>=20>> Why is this not done by the installer?>>=20>> Palle>>=20>>=20>> On 25/06/2010, at 17.30, WebAdmin wrote:>>=20>>> Greetings, all.>>>=20>>> I am struggling to get WebDNA running on OS X Snow Leopard Server =10.6.3 and 10.6.4. Here is correspondence between me and Christophe =Billiottet. If any Snow Leopard Server users can shed some light on how =to get this running (other than what I've tried, below), I would =appreciate it.>>>=20>>> thx.>>>=20>>>>> On Jun 23, 2010, at 17:34, wrote:>>>>>=20>>>>>> Hello Christophe,>>>>>>=20>>>>>> I downloaded your Mac installer today for use on a new Snow =Leopard Server, and though the installation succeeds in that WebCat is =running, it fails in that Apache gives an "Object Not Found" when going =to http://127.0.0.1/webcatalog>>>>>>=20>>>>>> I noted that there was no apache module installed for WebCat when =looking at Apache modules in Server Admin. I tried adding it and =enabling it, but that blocked all pages from being served (snow =leopard's wikis for example).>>>>>>=20>>>>>> Is there an installer that has been tested on Snow Leopard =Server? I am hoping so. Or, what steps do I need to take to get this =working?>>>>>>=20>>>>>> Thanks.>>>>>>=20>>>=20>>>=20>>>=20>>> from Christophe:>>>=20>>>>>=20>>>>> Hi !>>>>>=20>>>>> For Snow Leopard server, you should just add this line in =httpd.conf:>>>>>=20>>>>>=20>>>>> ScriptAlias /cgi-bin "/Library/WebServer/CGI-Executables">>>>>=20>>>>> then restart apache: sudo apachectl restart>>>>> and webdna: =/Library/WebServer/CGI-Executables/WebCatalogEngine/WebCatalogCtl =restart>>>>>=20>>>>> It should work without anything else. The problem is Snow Leopard =server removed this line and WebDNA admin is trying to reach =http://yourdomain/cgi-bin/WebCatalogEngine/Admin/AdminPrefs.dna and Snow =Leopard only understands =http://yourdomain/CGI-Executables/WebCatalogEngine/Admin/AdminPrefs.dna>>>>>=20>>>>> - chris>>>>>=20>>>=20>>> from me to Chris:>>>=20>>>> On Jun 24, 2010, at 14:50, wrote:>>>>=20>>>>> Thank you for the quick reply. Unfortunately, no luck yet.>>>>>=20>>>>> When I installed it yesterday, I saved the entries I made in the =installer. You'll find them below.>>>>>=20>>>>> I had also entered this line in httpd.conf yesterday, and double =checked it today; it is there.>>>>>=20>>>>> ScriptAlias /cgi-bin "/Library/WebServer/CGI-Executables">>>>>=20>>>>> Here is the full content of httpd.conf:>>>>>=20>>>>> KeepAliveTimeout 15>>>>> # As of Mac OS X Server 10.5, the compiled-in server limit is 2048>>>>> ServerLimit 2048>>>>> # Server Admin manages ListenBackLog as a function of MaxClients: =min(511, MaxClients/2)>>>>> MaxClients 1024>>>>> ListenBackLog 511>>>>> ####>>>>> #### The following Include directive is essential for the virtual =hosts to be usable.>>>>> ####>>>>> Include "/etc/apache2/sites/*.conf">>>>> Include =/Library/WebServer/CGI-Executables/WebCatalogEngine/webdna.conf>>>>> ScriptAlias /cgi-bin "/Library/WebServer/CGI-Executables">>>>>=20>>>>> After installing yesterday, I looked at the modules tab in web =server admin, and there was not a module for WebDNA (should there have =been?) I added it browsing to the path =/Library/WebServer/CGI-Executables/WebCatalogEngine/mod_WebDNA_apache2.2.s=o I restarted Apache and WebCat, even tried rebooting. No luck. =Does that belong (the installer did not add it).>>>>>=20>>>>> Any other ideas?>>>>>=20>>>>>=20>>>>>=20>>>>>=20>>>>>=20>>>>> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D==3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D==3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D>>>>> INSTALL =20>>>>> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D==3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D==3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D>>>>> To install the WebDNA into your system, you will need=20>>>>> to provide some infomation about your Apache Server.>>>>> Please be prepared to provide the paths for the following>>>>> directories:=20>>>>> Default Web Server DocumentRoot directory.>>>>> Default Web Server CGI directory.>>>>> Apache configuration directory (contains the default httpd.conf =file)>>>>> Apache user name>>>>> Enter to accept the defaults>>>>>=20>>>>> Enter the Default Web Server DocumentRoot directory: ==20>>>>> ( default is /Library/WebServer/Documents )>>>>> /Library/WebServer/Sites>>>>>=20>>>>> Enter the Default Web Server CGI directory: =20>>>>> ( default is /Library/WebServer/CGI-Executables )>>>>>=20>>>>>=20>>>>> Enter the Apache configuration directory (contains the default =httpd.conf file): =20>>>>> ( default is /etc/apache2 )>>>>>=20>>>>>=20>>>>> Enter the apache user name: =20>>>>> ( default is _www )>>>>>=20>>>>> Installing WebDNA...>>>>> Using ApacheCtl as: apachectl>>>>> Installed WebCatalog documents into directory:>>>>> /Library/WebServer/Sites/WebCatalog =20>>>>> Installed WebCatalog into directory>>>>> /Library/WebServer/CGI-Executables/WebCatalogEngine =20>>>>> Modifying httpd.conf>>>>> Setting Permissions>>>>> /Library/WebServer/CGI-Executables/WebCatalogEngine/WebCatalogCtl =start: WebDNAMonitor started>>>>>=20>>>>> +-------------------------------------------------------->>>>> | You now have successfully installed WebDNA in your =20>>>>> | Apache server. =20>>>>> | To administer your WebDNA installation, please visit =20>>>>> | http://127.0.0.1/WebCatalog =20>>>>>=20>>>>=20>>>=20>>>=20>>> =46rom Chris:>>>=20>>>>=20>>>>=20>>>> Hi ! adding ScriptAlias /cgi-bin ="/Library/WebServer/CGI-Executables" should work, we have several users =who came with the same question, and all of them solved the problem with =this line.>>>>=20>>>> There is no need to add the module in the GUI>>>>=20>>>> Are you sure your /WebCatalogEngine is in =/Library/WebServer/CGI-Executables/WebCatalogEngine/ and that your =/WebCatalog folder is in your website root folder? it should be =available to http://127.0.0.1/WebCatalog=20>>>>=20>>>> - chris>>>>=20>>>=20>>> =46rom me to Chris:>>>=20>>>>=20>>>> I am in the process of reinstalling OS X SL Server now to set up =RAID, and will try installing WebCat again once I am done. Question: =your installer asks for correct paths to certain things or to accept the =defaults. I changed one thing:=20>>>>=20>>>>> Enter the Default Web Server DocumentRoot directory: ==20>>>>> ( default is /Library/WebServer/Documents )>>>>> /Library/WebServer/Sites>>>>=20>>>> because when you use Server Admin to set up a new site, it puts it =in /Library/WebServer/Sites not /Library/WebServer/Documents But, =there is a /Library/WebServer/Documents folder. Could this be my =problem?=20>>>=20>>> =46rom Chris to me:>>>=20>>> This might be an extra complication, yes: i don't know how OSX =server handles the CGI-BIN folder in this case. Normally, you get your =files in /Library/WebServer/Documents/ and the engine is in =/Library/WebServer/CGI-Executables/WebCatalogEngine/ (outside the server =folder, with a SciptAlias)>>> Apache loads the engine as a module and every .dna file in =/Library/WebServer/Documents/ is interpreted.>>>=20>>> Logically, it should work with /Library/WebServer/Sites/ but since =the websites might request files in =/Library/WebServer/CGI-Executables/WebCatalogEngine/ (for instance =shopping carts, sandboxes or global files), i don't know how OSX server =will get that these files must be called through different path. I am =sure it will work, but there migh be some slight modifications to do. =Feel free to ask on the talk-list, there are many users with Snow =Leopard server. They could help you better than i can.>>>=20>>> sincerely,>>> - chris>>>=20>>>=20>>>=20>>>=20>>>=20>>>=20>>=20>=20> ---------------------------------------------------------> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to> the mailing list .> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us>=20 Associated Messages, from the most recent to the oldest:

Dear Christophe,Thanks for the reply, and I know it was a part of the install earlier =on.Why can't WebDNA reintroduce this... Is your installer not able to =insert the ScriptAlias?PalleOn 25/06/2010, at 19.26, christophe.billiottet@webdna.us wrote:> It was, until 10.5. For 10.6, the ScriptAlias line has been removed by =Apple and must be manually added...>=20> - chris>=20>=20> On Jun 25, 2010, at 14:15, Palle Bo Nielsen wrote:>=20>> Although I do not have the direct answer; I do have the following =question (sorry about hijacking the thread).>>=20>> Why is this not done by the installer?>>=20>> Palle>>=20>>=20>> On 25/06/2010, at 17.30, WebAdmin wrote:>>=20>>> Greetings, all.>>>=20>>> I am struggling to get WebDNA running on OS X Snow Leopard Server =10.6.3 and 10.6.4. Here is correspondence between me and Christophe =Billiottet. If any Snow Leopard Server users can shed some light on how =to get this running (other than what I've tried, below), I would =appreciate it.>>>=20>>> thx.>>>=20>>>>> On Jun 23, 2010, at 17:34, wrote:>>>>>=20>>>>>> Hello Christophe,>>>>>>=20>>>>>> I downloaded your Mac installer today for use on a new Snow =Leopard Server, and though the installation succeeds in that WebCat is =running, it fails in that Apache gives an "Object Not Found" when going =to http://127.0.0.1/webcatalog>>>>>>=20>>>>>> I noted that there was no apache module installed for WebCat when =looking at Apache modules in Server Admin. I tried adding it and =enabling it, but that blocked all pages from being served (snow =leopard's wikis for example).>>>>>>=20>>>>>> Is there an installer that has been tested on Snow Leopard =Server? I am hoping so. Or, what steps do I need to take to get this =working?>>>>>>=20>>>>>> Thanks.>>>>>>=20>>>=20>>>=20>>>=20>>> from Christophe:>>>=20>>>>>=20>>>>> Hi !>>>>>=20>>>>> For Snow Leopard server, you should just add this line in =httpd.conf:>>>>>=20>>>>>=20>>>>> ScriptAlias /cgi-bin "/Library/WebServer/CGI-Executables">>>>>=20>>>>> then restart apache: sudo apachectl restart>>>>> and webdna: =/Library/WebServer/CGI-Executables/WebCatalogEngine/WebCatalogCtl =restart>>>>>=20>>>>> It should work without anything else. The problem is Snow Leopard =server removed this line and WebDNA admin is trying to reach =http://yourdomain/cgi-bin/WebCatalogEngine/Admin/AdminPrefs.dna and Snow =Leopard only understands =http://yourdomain/CGI-Executables/WebCatalogEngine/Admin/AdminPrefs.dna>>>>>=20>>>>> - chris>>>>>=20>>>=20>>> from me to Chris:>>>=20>>>> On Jun 24, 2010, at 14:50, wrote:>>>>=20>>>>> Thank you for the quick reply. Unfortunately, no luck yet.>>>>>=20>>>>> When I installed it yesterday, I saved the entries I made in the =installer. You'll find them below.>>>>>=20>>>>> I had also entered this line in httpd.conf yesterday, and double =checked it today; it is there.>>>>>=20>>>>> ScriptAlias /cgi-bin "/Library/WebServer/CGI-Executables">>>>>=20>>>>> Here is the full content of httpd.conf:>>>>>=20>>>>> KeepAliveTimeout 15>>>>> # As of Mac OS X Server 10.5, the compiled-in server limit is 2048>>>>> ServerLimit 2048>>>>> # Server Admin manages ListenBackLog as a function of MaxClients: =min(511, MaxClients/2)>>>>> MaxClients 1024>>>>> ListenBackLog 511>>>>> ####>>>>> #### The following Include directive is essential for the virtual =hosts to be usable.>>>>> ####>>>>> Include "/etc/apache2/sites/*.conf">>>>> Include =/Library/WebServer/CGI-Executables/WebCatalogEngine/webdna.conf>>>>> ScriptAlias /cgi-bin "/Library/WebServer/CGI-Executables">>>>>=20>>>>> After installing yesterday, I looked at the modules tab in web =server admin, and there was not a module for WebDNA (should there have =been?) I added it browsing to the path =/Library/WebServer/CGI-Executables/WebCatalogEngine/mod_WebDNA_apache2.2.s=o I restarted Apache and WebCat, even tried rebooting. No luck. =Does that belong (the installer did not add it).>>>>>=20>>>>> Any other ideas?>>>>>=20>>>>>=20>>>>>=20>>>>>=20>>>>>=20>>>>> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D==3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D==3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D>>>>> INSTALL =20>>>>> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D==3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D==3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D>>>>> To install the WebDNA into your system, you will need=20>>>>> to provide some infomation about your Apache Server.>>>>> Please be prepared to provide the paths for the following>>>>> directories:=20>>>>> Default Web Server DocumentRoot directory.>>>>> Default Web Server CGI directory.>>>>> Apache configuration directory (contains the default httpd.conf =file)>>>>> Apache user name>>>>> Enter to accept the defaults>>>>>=20>>>>> Enter the Default Web Server DocumentRoot directory: ==20>>>>> ( default is /Library/WebServer/Documents )>>>>> /Library/WebServer/Sites>>>>>=20>>>>> Enter the Default Web Server CGI directory: =20>>>>> ( default is /Library/WebServer/CGI-Executables )>>>>>=20>>>>>=20>>>>> Enter the Apache configuration directory (contains the default =httpd.conf file): =20>>>>> ( default is /etc/apache2 )>>>>>=20>>>>>=20>>>>> Enter the apache user name: =20>>>>> ( default is _www )>>>>>=20>>>>> Installing WebDNA...>>>>> Using ApacheCtl as: apachectl>>>>> Installed WebCatalog documents into directory:>>>>> /Library/WebServer/Sites/WebCatalog =20>>>>> Installed WebCatalog into directory>>>>> /Library/WebServer/CGI-Executables/WebCatalogEngine =20>>>>> Modifying httpd.conf>>>>> Setting Permissions>>>>> /Library/WebServer/CGI-Executables/WebCatalogEngine/WebCatalogCtl =start: WebDNAMonitor started>>>>>=20>>>>> +-------------------------------------------------------->>>>> | You now have successfully installed WebDNA in your =20>>>>> | Apache server. =20>>>>> | To administer your WebDNA installation, please visit =20>>>>> | http://127.0.0.1/WebCatalog =20>>>>>=20>>>>=20>>>=20>>>=20>>> =46rom Chris:>>>=20>>>>=20>>>>=20>>>> Hi ! adding ScriptAlias /cgi-bin ="/Library/WebServer/CGI-Executables" should work, we have several users =who came with the same question, and all of them solved the problem with =this line.>>>>=20>>>> There is no need to add the module in the GUI>>>>=20>>>> Are you sure your /WebCatalogEngine is in =/Library/WebServer/CGI-Executables/WebCatalogEngine/ and that your =/WebCatalog folder is in your website root folder? it should be =available to http://127.0.0.1/WebCatalog=20>>>>=20>>>> - chris>>>>=20>>>=20>>> =46rom me to Chris:>>>=20>>>>=20>>>> I am in the process of reinstalling OS X SL Server now to set up =RAID, and will try installing WebCat again once I am done. Question: =your installer asks for correct paths to certain things or to accept the =defaults. I changed one thing:=20>>>>=20>>>>> Enter the Default Web Server DocumentRoot directory: ==20>>>>> ( default is /Library/WebServer/Documents )>>>>> /Library/WebServer/Sites>>>>=20>>>> because when you use Server Admin to set up a new site, it puts it =in /Library/WebServer/Sites not /Library/WebServer/Documents But, =there is a /Library/WebServer/Documents folder. Could this be my =problem?=20>>>=20>>> =46rom Chris to me:>>>=20>>> This might be an extra complication, yes: i don't know how OSX =server handles the CGI-BIN folder in this case. Normally, you get your =files in /Library/WebServer/Documents/ and the engine is in =/Library/WebServer/CGI-Executables/WebCatalogEngine/ (outside the server =folder, with a SciptAlias)>>> Apache loads the engine as a module and every .dna file in =/Library/WebServer/Documents/ is interpreted.>>>=20>>> Logically, it should work with /Library/WebServer/Sites/ but since =the websites might request files in =/Library/WebServer/CGI-Executables/WebCatalogEngine/ (for instance =shopping carts, sandboxes or global files), i don't know how OSX server =will get that these files must be called through different path. I am =sure it will work, but there migh be some slight modifications to do. =Feel free to ask on the talk-list, there are many users with Snow =Leopard server. They could help you better than i can.>>>=20>>> sincerely,>>> - chris>>>=20>>>=20>>>=20>>>=20>>>=20>>>=20>>=20>=20> ---------------------------------------------------------> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to> the mailing list .> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us>=20 Palle Bo Nielsen

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