Re: [WebDNA] v7 problem?

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2012

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texte = --Apple-Mail-4--87138891Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printableContent-Type: text/plain;charset=us-asciiAll of our sites are not "extremely" busy ... a few ones have more hits =than other that's true.For server 1 we had about 70'000 hits per day (hits, not visits!) during =the last two weeks, but all served with v6.2The ones using v7 are not heavily hit.Server 2 has maybe half of hits on v6.2 and only two v7 sites with =almost no hits.The "www.maendli-freizeit.ch" vhost is in development state and has no =hits at all, as I mentioned it makes them crash also if it contains only =the WebDNA folder and nothing else.It doesn't really matter if the v7 sites are heavily hit or not, it's =the fact that having more than a handfull of fcgi processes running at =once.ThierryAm 09.01.2012 um 13:20 schrieb christophe.billiottet@webdna.us:> Yes, we will check this error and i will be back with informations. =Could it be that you are running extremely busy websites on a single =server, the kind of website that usually run on dedicated servers, and =that one is heavier than the others? i understand the error follows one =of your websites, www.maendli-freizeit.ch, and that the problem appears =when you add this specific website to your servers.>=20> I also understood the problem appeared Saturday: "We've got 4 vhosts =running v7 since a few weeks without problems - till yesterday.">=20> - chris>=20>=20> On Jan 9, 2012, at 10:07, Thierry Almy wrote:>=20>> Thanks Chris>>=20>> On our 2x QuadCore we can handle 2 fcgi processes, on the 2x 6-Core 4 =fcgi processes.=20>> The next process will bring up the errors on each system.>>=20>> To be honest, it can't be a solution to set up a VPS for each web =host. We're running more than 100 vhosts, it's just impossible to do it =this way ...>>=20>> The sem_open error points to a programming problem where the =application doesn't properly close channels after usage ...as far as I =understand it ... but I'm definitely not an application programmer ....=20=>>=20>> Thierry>>=20>>=20>> Am 09.01.2012 um 12:19 schrieb christophe.billiottet@webdna.us:>>=20>>> I will check this asap with our developer. Meanwhile, not all =hosting solutions are being equals, though the FastCGI should be able to =handle almost any UNIX/LINUX configuration. I personnally prefer the one =chosen by Ken: a single website on a VPS with a light but feature-rich =linux OS like DEBIAN associated with LIGHTTPD webserver -which is faster =and lighter than apache- and has a well-designed FastCGI implementation. =This solution can be very cheap, will run with 128MB of RAM and scales =up easily with fast processors and lots of RAM.>>> The VPS is the natural extension of WebDNA 7: it gives as much =control as a dedicated server for a fraction of the cost, and makes each =website an independant entity with greater efficiency and high level of =security.>>>=20>>> - chris>>>=20>>>=20>>> On Jan 9, 2012, at 8:39, Thierry Almy wrote:>>>=20>>>> Hi chris>>>>=20>>>> sorry for the comment ... I take it back ...>>>>=20>>>> I just want to have an environment which allows me to do my job =(programming).>>>>=20>>>> Maybe we should leave OS X at all and move to Linux?>>>>=20>>>>=20>>>> The last error we had a few weeks ago was because of heavy load and =bad RAM.>>>> After changing the RAM the malloc error was gone.>>>> The sem_open error must have to do something with WebDNA ... v6.2 =and v7>>>>=20>>>> Is there anybody else which has seen the sem_open error?>>>>=20>>>> Thierry>>>=20>>>=20>>>=20>>> --------------------------------------------------------->>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to>>> the mailing list .>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us>>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us>>=20>> --------------------------------------------------------->> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to>> the mailing list .>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us>=20> --------------------------------------------------------- This message =is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To =unsubscribe, E-mail to: archives: =http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us Bug Reporting: =support@webdna.us--Apple-Mail-4--87138891Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printableContent-Type: text/html;charset=us-ascii

All of our sites are not "extremely" busy ... a few ones have =more hits than other that's true.

For server 1 =we had about 70'000 hits per day (hits, not visits!) during the last two =weeks, but all served with v6.2

The ones using v7 are not =heavily hit.

Server 2 has maybe half of hits on =v6.2 and only two v7 sites with almost no hits.

The ="www.maendli-freizeit.ch" vhost is =in development state and has no hits at all, as I mentioned it makes =them crash also if it contains only the WebDNA folder and nothing =else.

It doesn't really matter if the v7 sites are heavily hit =or not, it's the fact that having more than a handfull of fcgi processes =running at =once.

Thierry

A=m 09.01.2012 um 13:20 schrieb christophe.billiottet@webd=na.us:

Yes, we will check this =error and i will be back with informations. Could it be that you are =running extremely busy websites on a single server, the kind of website =that usually run on dedicated servers, and that one is heavier than the =others? i understand the error follows one of your websites, www.maendli-freizeit.ch, =and that the problem appears when you add this specific website to your =servers.

I also understood the problem appeared =Saturday: "We've got 4 vhosts running v7 since a few weeks without =problems - till yesterday."

- =chris

On Jan 9, 2012, at 10:07, =Thierry Almy wrote:

Thanks =Chris

On our 2x QuadCore we can handle 2 fcgi processes, on the =2x 6-Core 4 fcgi processes.
The next process will bring up the =errors on each system.

To be honest, it can't be a solution to =set up a VPS for each web host. We're running more than 100 vhosts, it's =just impossible to do it this way ...

The sem_open error points =to a programming problem where the application doesn't properly close =channels after usage ...as far as I understand it ... but I'm =definitely not an application programmer .... =

Thierry

Am 09.01.2012 um 12:19 schrieb christophe.billiottet@webd=na.us:

I will check this asap with =our developer. Meanwhile, not all hosting solutions are being equals, =though the FastCGI should be able to handle almost any UNIX/LINUX =configuration. I personnally prefer the one chosen by Ken: a single =website on a VPS with a light but feature-rich linux OS like DEBIAN =associated with LIGHTTPD webserver -which is faster and lighter than =apache- and has a well-designed FastCGI implementation. This solution =can be very cheap, will run with 128MB of RAM and scales up easily with =fast processors and lots of RAM.
The VPS is the natural extension of WebDNA 7: it gives as =much control as a dedicated server for a fraction of the cost, and makes =each website an independant entity with greater efficiency and high =level of security.

- =chris

On Jan 9, 2012, =at 8:39, Thierry Almy wrote:

Hi chris

sorry for the comment ... I take =it back ...

I just want to have an =environment which allows me to do my job =(programming).

Maybe we should leave OS X at =all and move to Linux?

The last error we had a few =weeks ago was because of heavy load and bad =RAM.
After changing the RAM the malloc error was =gone.
The sem_open error must have to do something with WebDNA =... v6.2 and v7

Is there anybody else which has =seen the sem_open error?

Thierry

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Re: [WebDNA] v7 problem? (Thierry Almy 2012)
Re: [WebDNA] v7 problem? (Kenneth Grome 2012)
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Re: [WebDNA] v7 problem? (Thierry Almy 2012)
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Re: [WebDNA] v7 problem? (Thierry Almy 2012)
Re: [WebDNA] v7 problem? (christophe.billiottet@webdna.us 2012)
Re: [WebDNA] v7 problem? (Thierry Almy 2012)
Re: [WebDNA] v7 problem? (Thierry Almy 2012)
Re: [WebDNA] v7 problem? (christophe.billiottet@webdna.us 2012)
[WebDNA] v7 problem? (Thierry Almy 2012)

--Apple-Mail-4--87138891Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printableContent-Type: text/plain;charset=us-asciiAll of our sites are not "extremely" busy ... a few ones have more hits =than other that's true.For server 1 we had about 70'000 hits per day (hits, not visits!) during =the last two weeks, but all served with v6.2The ones using v7 are not heavily hit.Server 2 has maybe half of hits on v6.2 and only two v7 sites with =almost no hits.The "www.maendli-freizeit.ch" vhost is in development state and has no =hits at all, as I mentioned it makes them crash also if it contains only =the WebDNA folder and nothing else.It doesn't really matter if the v7 sites are heavily hit or not, it's =the fact that having more than a handfull of fcgi processes running at =once.ThierryAm 09.01.2012 um 13:20 schrieb christophe.billiottet@webdna.us:> Yes, we will check this error and i will be back with informations. =Could it be that you are running extremely busy websites on a single =server, the kind of website that usually run on dedicated servers, and =that one is heavier than the others? i understand the error follows one =of your websites, www.maendli-freizeit.ch, and that the problem appears =when you add this specific website to your servers.>=20> I also understood the problem appeared Saturday: "We've got 4 vhosts =running v7 since a few weeks without problems - till yesterday.">=20> - chris>=20>=20> On Jan 9, 2012, at 10:07, Thierry Almy wrote:>=20>> Thanks Chris>>=20>> On our 2x QuadCore we can handle 2 fcgi processes, on the 2x 6-Core 4 =fcgi processes.=20>> The next process will bring up the errors on each system.>>=20>> To be honest, it can't be a solution to set up a VPS for each web =host. We're running more than 100 vhosts, it's just impossible to do it =this way ...>>=20>> The sem_open error points to a programming problem where the =application doesn't properly close channels after usage ...as far as I =understand it ... but I'm definitely not an application programmer ....=20=>>=20>> Thierry>>=20>>=20>> Am 09.01.2012 um 12:19 schrieb christophe.billiottet@webdna.us:>>=20>>> I will check this asap with our developer. Meanwhile, not all =hosting solutions are being equals, though the FastCGI should be able to =handle almost any UNIX/LINUX configuration. I personnally prefer the one =chosen by Ken: a single website on a VPS with a light but feature-rich =linux OS like DEBIAN associated with LIGHTTPD webserver -which is faster =and lighter than apache- and has a well-designed FastCGI implementation. =This solution can be very cheap, will run with 128MB of RAM and scales =up easily with fast processors and lots of RAM.>>> The VPS is the natural extension of WebDNA 7: it gives as much =control as a dedicated server for a fraction of the cost, and makes each =website an independant entity with greater efficiency and high level of =security.>>>=20>>> - chris>>>=20>>>=20>>> On Jan 9, 2012, at 8:39, Thierry Almy wrote:>>>=20>>>> Hi chris>>>>=20>>>> sorry for the comment ... I take it back ...>>>>=20>>>> I just want to have an environment which allows me to do my job =(programming).>>>>=20>>>> Maybe we should leave OS X at all and move to Linux?>>>>=20>>>>=20>>>> The last error we had a few weeks ago was because of heavy load and =bad RAM.>>>> After changing the RAM the malloc error was gone.>>>> The sem_open error must have to do something with WebDNA ... v6.2 =and v7>>>>=20>>>> Is there anybody else which has seen the sem_open error?>>>>=20>>>> Thierry>>>=20>>>=20>>>=20>>> --------------------------------------------------------->>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to>>> the mailing list .>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us>>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us>>=20>> --------------------------------------------------------->> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to>> the mailing list .>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us>=20> --------------------------------------------------------- This message =is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To =unsubscribe, E-mail to: archives: =http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us Bug Reporting: =support@webdna.us--Apple-Mail-4--87138891Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printableContent-Type: text/html;charset=us-ascii