Re: [WebDNA] WebDNA restart script
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texte = I also have the mail problem a couple of times a year. Sent from my iPad > On Jan 20, 2015, at 7:13 AM, "Psi Prime Inc, Matthew A Perosi "
wrote: >=20 > Donovan, >=20 > Most of my servers are stable all year long, but I have one or two bad app= les that hiccup and give me the "template not found" error. It always aggrav= ates me that parts of my CMS will run fine, but only one or two pages say th= ey are not found. Even though the WebDNA Monitor says the engine is running= , I stop it and restart it to solve this issue. >=20 > Other than the "template not found" issue, there's another issue that goes= unnoticed until it's way too late. Emails get stuck in the EMailFolder wit= hout any other hint of a problem. When this happens, it happens to all webs= ites on the server all at once. A WebDNA stop/start does not solve this iss= ue, so I have to reboot the server. This has been a problem for me since 19= 97 when I started using WebDNA. Every server I've ever had, from WebCat 3 o= n RedHat 3, WebCat 4 on RedHat 4, WebDNA 5 on RedHat 5, WebDNA 6 on RedHat 5= and CentOS 6.2/6.3/6.4 have all randomly decided to one day trap all the em= ails. >=20 > Well, in early 2014 a mission critical server for my utility company clien= t stopped sending emails. It only took us about 18 hours to notice, but the= y were livid. So I developed a bunch of triggers, and set up a dedicated se= rver just to ping every one of my production servers. Now, twice a day, all= at once, I get a series of emails from all the servers sent to my smartphon= e. I know everything is working as long as I see every email. It turns out= that this is a really good DNS and network check too. >=20 > Now, the other issue, and the one you are wondering about with the command= not working started happening in November 2014 with one of the servers. Th= is one server is a VPS from GoDaddy. I think it started right after they up= graded it from CentOS 6.3 to 6.4. This server is running the WebDNA 6.? Pre= -Gold build you gave me in the summer of 2013. >=20 > I have a form page for uploading images. Once submitted the script runs t= his command: > [text]garbage=3D[Shell scriptid=3Djr4newslettersimages][/Shell][/text] >=20 > Normally the images are processed through ImageMagick and we see them on h= e screen. But several times a day since November the images do not upload. = Here's the script that's getting called: >=20 > "[PathToImageMagick]convert" -size [smThumb]x[smThumb] "../../../newslette= rs/images/original/[uploadedimg]" -resize [smThumb]x[smThumb] +profile "*" "= ../../../newsletters/images/thumb/[uploadedimg]"[unurl][line_ending][/unurl]= [!] > [/!]"[PathToImageMagick]convert" -size [medThumb]x[medThumb] "../../../new= sletters/images/original/[uploadedimg]" -resize [medThumb]x[medThumb] +profi= le "*" "../../../newsletters/images/medThumb/[uploadedimg]"[unurl][line_endi= ng][/unurl][!] > [/!]"[PathToImageMagick]convert" -size [lgThumb]x[lgThumb] "../../../newsl= etters/images/original/[uploadedimg]" -resize [lgThumb]x[lgThumb] +profile "= *" "../../../newsletters/images/[uploadedimg]"[unurl][line_ending][/unurl] >=20 > Of course that script has not changed in years, so that's not the problem.= Just like the "template not found" issue, a stop/start of the engine fixes= this. >=20 > I assume it's some strange disconnect with the OS 6.3 to 6.4 upgrade, perh= aps a library. I also assume it will go away when I eventually upgrade to W= ebDNA 8. > In the mean time I just have a cron job running this script every hour dur= ing normal business hours: > /etc/rc.d/init.d/WebCatalogCtl stop > sleep 5 > /etc/rc.d/init.d/WebCatalogCtl start >=20 > I love my cats, but I always seem to find new ways to skin them. ;-) >=20 > -Matt >=20 >=20 >=20 >> On 1/20/2015 9:33 AM, Donovan Brooke wrote: >> Hi Matt, >> I have experienced the =E2=80=9Ctemplate not found=E2=80=9D error, curren= tly only on my 6.2 Server boxes. It is rare (few times a year), so when it h= appens I just do a manual restart. I=E2=80=99m not sure what you mean by "co= mmands stop working=E2=80=9D. I haven=E2=80=99t experienced that. >>=20 >> I have other (significant traffic) servers (6.3 and 8.0 Server versions) t= hat have uptime=E2=80=99s over a year. That=E2=80=99s not to say that the =E2= =80=9Ctemplate not found=E2=80=9D error couldn=E2=80=99t happen on those box= es someday. If you are experiencing these things regularly, it would be inte= resting to find out what is causing the issues. >>=20 >> I don=E2=80=99t think switching to FastCGI is going to change your =E2=80= =9Cstability issues=E2=80=9D other than you won=E2=80=99t need a cron job if= you have a server that is crashing. The engine is pretty much the same betw= een Server and FastCGI, only FastCGI restarts itself inherently, without the= need of a WebDNA Monitor app. If you have a server that is crashing, you ma= y not notice things as much, but the event would still be recorded.. and thi= ngs like sessions, or page loads could still be interrupted. The =E2=80=9Ct= emplate not found=E2=80=9D error seems an error other than crashing. >>=20 >> If I had to guess, this error has something to do with code... Maybe not b= ad code necessarily, but maybe task-oriented code that WebDNA fails to execu= te through in an ideal/complete fashion. I think the answer would eventually= come in a keen eye on the WebDNA and Apache logs, and trying to isolate an e= xact time when WebDNA stops recognizing a file. >>=20 >> Anyway, I=E2=80=99d be interested if you find anything, as I was aware of= the =E2=80=9Ctemplate not found" issue, but it was never a priority because= of the rarity of the event. >>=20 >> Sincerely, >> Donovan >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>> On Jan 20, 2015, at 5:23 AM, Matthew Perosi wrote: >>>=20 >>> This is exactly why I have to restart mine every once in a while. WebDNA= says it's running, but some commands stop working. >>>=20 >>> Sometimes pages give me a "template not found" type error while others a= re fine. >>>=20 >>> On one of my servers running CentOS 6.3 and webDNA 6.2 I have a cron job= restarting WebDNA every 2 hours during the work day because calls to ImageM= agic stop working at random, but everything else works. >>>=20 >>> A cron restart prevents it all. I'm looking forward to the inevitable sw= itch to fastcgi to be free of these stability issues. >>>=20 >>> Matt >>>=20 >>> Sent from my European iPhone >>>=20 >>>> On Jan 20, 2015, at 2:35 AM, Stuart Tremain wrote:= >>>>=20 >>>> Chris does the app just ping WebDNA or does it check if it is working i= e checks that it is processing commands etc ? >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> Kind regards >>>>=20 >>>> Stuart Tremain >>>> IDFK Web Developments >>>> AUSTRALIA >>>> webdna@idfk.com.au >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>> On 20 Jan 2015, at 6:17 pm, christophe.billiottet@webdna.us wrote: >>>>>=20 >>>>> Check that WebDNAMonitor is up and running: this small application mon= itors WebDNA server and restart it if necessary. >>>>>=20 >>>>> - chris >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>>> On 20 Jan 2015, at 09:56, Stuart Tremain wrote: >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> Every now and then WebDNA stops working =E2=80=A6.. >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> Kind regards >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> Stuart Tremain >>>>>> IDFK Web Developments >>>>>> AUSTRALIA >>>>>> webdna@idfk.com.au >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> On 20 Jan 2015, at 5:37 pm, Dan Strong wrote: >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> Why do you ask? >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> ------------------------------------ >>>>>>> Sent from phone >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> -Dan Strong >>>>>>> http://DanStrong.com >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> On Jan 19, 2015 7:47 PM, "Stuart Tremain" wrote= : >>>>>>> I saw a couple of people are restarting WebDNA on a regular basis us= ing CRON on Linux. >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> May I ask as to why you feel this is necessary ? >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> Kind regards >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> Stuart Tremain >>>>>>> IDFK Web Developments >>>>>>> AUSTRALIA >>>>>>> webdna@idfk.com.au >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>>>>>> the mailing list . >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>>>>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >>>>>>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------- This messa= ge is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubs= cribe, E-mail to: archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us Bug Re= porting: support@webdna.us >>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------- This messag= e is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubsc= ribe, E-mail to: archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us Bug Rep= orting: support@webdna.us >>>>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>>>> the mailing list . >>>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >>>>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >>>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>>> the mailing list . >>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >>>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>> the mailing list . >>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >> --------------------------------------------------------- >> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >> the mailing list . >> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> --=20 >> Matthew A Perosi >> Corporate Consultant >> Mobile Marketing Expert >> Senior Web Developer >> SEO Analyst & Educator >> matt@psiprime.com >>=20 >> Psi Prime, Inc. >> 323 Union Blvd. >> Totowa, NJ 07512 >>=20 >> Direct: 888.872.0274 >> Fax: 888.488.5924 >>=20 >> http://www.perosi.com > --------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us > Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us
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I also have the mail problem a couple of times a year. Sent from my iPad > On Jan 20, 2015, at 7:13 AM, "Psi Prime Inc, Matthew A Perosi " wrote: >=20 > Donovan, >=20 > Most of my servers are stable all year long, but I have one or two bad app= les that hiccup and give me the "template not found" error. It always aggrav= ates me that parts of my CMS will run fine, but only one or two pages say th= ey are not found. Even though the WebDNA Monitor says the engine is running= , I stop it and restart it to solve this issue. >=20 > Other than the "template not found" issue, there's another issue that goes= unnoticed until it's way too late. Emails get stuck in the EMailFolder wit= hout any other hint of a problem. When this happens, it happens to all webs= ites on the server all at once. A WebDNA stop/start does not solve this iss= ue, so I have to reboot the server. This has been a problem for me since 19= 97 when I started using WebDNA. Every server I've ever had, from WebCat 3 o= n RedHat 3, WebCat 4 on RedHat 4, WebDNA 5 on RedHat 5, WebDNA 6 on RedHat 5= and CentOS 6.2/6.3/6.4 have all randomly decided to one day trap all the em= ails. >=20 > Well, in early 2014 a mission critical server for my utility company clien= t stopped sending emails. It only took us about 18 hours to notice, but the= y were livid. So I developed a bunch of triggers, and set up a dedicated se= rver just to ping every one of my production servers. Now, twice a day, all= at once, I get a series of emails from all the servers sent to my smartphon= e. I know everything is working as long as I see every email. It turns out= that this is a really good DNS and network check too. >=20 > Now, the other issue, and the one you are wondering about with the command= not working started happening in November 2014 with one of the servers. Th= is one server is a VPS from GoDaddy. I think it started right after they up= graded it from CentOS 6.3 to 6.4. This server is running the WebDNA 6.? Pre= -Gold build you gave me in the summer of 2013. >=20 > I have a form page for uploading images. Once submitted the script runs t= his command: > [text]garbage=3D[Shell scriptid=3Djr4newslettersimages][/Shell][/text] >=20 > Normally the images are processed through ImageMagick and we see them on h= e screen. But several times a day since November the images do not upload. = Here's the script that's getting called: >=20 > "[PathToImageMagick]convert" -size [smThumb]x[smThumb] "../../../newslette= rs/images/original/[uploadedimg]" -resize [smThumb]x[smThumb] +profile "*" "= ../../../newsletters/images/thumb/[uploadedimg]"[unurl][line_ending][/unurl]= [!] > [/!]"[PathToImageMagick]convert" -size [medThumb]x[medThumb] "../../../new= sletters/images/original/[uploadedimg]" -resize [medThumb]x[medThumb] +profi= le "*" "../../../newsletters/images/medThumb/[uploadedimg]"[unurl][line_endi= ng][/unurl][!] > [/!]"[PathToImageMagick]convert" -size [lgThumb]x[lgThumb] "../../../newsl= etters/images/original/[uploadedimg]" -resize [lgThumb]x[lgThumb] +profile "= *" "../../../newsletters/images/[uploadedimg]"[unurl][line_ending][/unurl] >=20 > Of course that script has not changed in years, so that's not the problem.= Just like the "template not found" issue, a stop/start of the engine fixes= this. >=20 > I assume it's some strange disconnect with the OS 6.3 to 6.4 upgrade, perh= aps a library. I also assume it will go away when I eventually upgrade to W= ebDNA 8. > In the mean time I just have a cron job running this script every hour dur= ing normal business hours: > /etc/rc.d/init.d/WebCatalogCtl stop > sleep 5 > /etc/rc.d/init.d/WebCatalogCtl start >=20 > I love my cats, but I always seem to find new ways to skin them. ;-) >=20 > -Matt >=20 >=20 >=20 >> On 1/20/2015 9:33 AM, Donovan Brooke wrote: >> Hi Matt, >> I have experienced the =E2=80=9Ctemplate not found=E2=80=9D error, curren= tly only on my 6.2 Server boxes. It is rare (few times a year), so when it h= appens I just do a manual restart. I=E2=80=99m not sure what you mean by "co= mmands stop working=E2=80=9D. I haven=E2=80=99t experienced that. >>=20 >> I have other (significant traffic) servers (6.3 and 8.0 Server versions) t= hat have uptime=E2=80=99s over a year. That=E2=80=99s not to say that the =E2= =80=9Ctemplate not found=E2=80=9D error couldn=E2=80=99t happen on those box= es someday. If you are experiencing these things regularly, it would be inte= resting to find out what is causing the issues. >>=20 >> I don=E2=80=99t think switching to FastCGI is going to change your =E2=80= =9Cstability issues=E2=80=9D other than you won=E2=80=99t need a cron job if= you have a server that is crashing. The engine is pretty much the same betw= een Server and FastCGI, only FastCGI restarts itself inherently, without the= need of a WebDNA Monitor app. If you have a server that is crashing, you ma= y not notice things as much, but the event would still be recorded.. and thi= ngs like sessions, or page loads could still be interrupted. The =E2=80=9Ct= emplate not found=E2=80=9D error seems an error other than crashing. >>=20 >> If I had to guess, this error has something to do with code... Maybe not b= ad code necessarily, but maybe task-oriented code that WebDNA fails to execu= te through in an ideal/complete fashion. I think the answer would eventually= come in a keen eye on the WebDNA and Apache logs, and trying to isolate an e= xact time when WebDNA stops recognizing a file. >>=20 >> Anyway, I=E2=80=99d be interested if you find anything, as I was aware of= the =E2=80=9Ctemplate not found" issue, but it was never a priority because= of the rarity of the event. >>=20 >> Sincerely, >> Donovan >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>> On Jan 20, 2015, at 5:23 AM, Matthew Perosi wrote: >>>=20 >>> This is exactly why I have to restart mine every once in a while. WebDNA= says it's running, but some commands stop working. >>>=20 >>> Sometimes pages give me a "template not found" type error while others a= re fine. >>>=20 >>> On one of my servers running CentOS 6.3 and webDNA 6.2 I have a cron job= restarting WebDNA every 2 hours during the work day because calls to ImageM= agic stop working at random, but everything else works. >>>=20 >>> A cron restart prevents it all. I'm looking forward to the inevitable sw= itch to fastcgi to be free of these stability issues. >>>=20 >>> Matt >>>=20 >>> Sent from my European iPhone >>>=20 >>>> On Jan 20, 2015, at 2:35 AM, Stuart Tremain wrote:= >>>>=20 >>>> Chris does the app just ping WebDNA or does it check if it is working i= e checks that it is processing commands etc ? >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> Kind regards >>>>=20 >>>> Stuart Tremain >>>> IDFK Web Developments >>>> AUSTRALIA >>>> webdna@idfk.com.au >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>> On 20 Jan 2015, at 6:17 pm, christophe.billiottet@webdna.us wrote: >>>>>=20 >>>>> Check that WebDNAMonitor is up and running: this small application mon= itors WebDNA server and restart it if necessary. >>>>>=20 >>>>> - chris >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>>> On 20 Jan 2015, at 09:56, Stuart Tremain wrote: >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> Every now and then WebDNA stops working =E2=80=A6.. >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> Kind regards >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> Stuart Tremain >>>>>> IDFK Web Developments >>>>>> AUSTRALIA >>>>>> webdna@idfk.com.au >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> On 20 Jan 2015, at 5:37 pm, Dan Strong wrote: >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> Why do you ask? >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> ------------------------------------ >>>>>>> Sent from phone >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> -Dan Strong >>>>>>> http://DanStrong.com >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> On Jan 19, 2015 7:47 PM, "Stuart Tremain" wrote= : >>>>>>> I saw a couple of people are restarting WebDNA on a regular basis us= ing CRON on Linux. >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> May I ask as to why you feel this is necessary ? >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> Kind regards >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> Stuart Tremain >>>>>>> IDFK Web Developments >>>>>>> AUSTRALIA >>>>>>> webdna@idfk.com.au >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>>>>>> the mailing list . >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>>>>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >>>>>>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------- This messa= ge is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubs= cribe, E-mail to: archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us Bug Re= porting: support@webdna.us >>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------- This messag= e is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubsc= ribe, E-mail to: archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us Bug Rep= orting: support@webdna.us >>>>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>>>> the mailing list . >>>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >>>>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >>>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>>> the mailing list . >>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >>>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>> the mailing list . >>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >> --------------------------------------------------------- >> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >> the mailing list . >> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> --=20 >> Matthew A Perosi >> Corporate Consultant >> Mobile Marketing Expert >> Senior Web Developer >> SEO Analyst & Educator >> matt@psiprime.com >>=20 >> Psi Prime, Inc. >> 323 Union Blvd. >> Totowa, NJ 07512 >>=20 >> Direct: 888.872.0274 >> Fax: 888.488.5924 >>=20 >> http://www.perosi.com > --------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us > Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us
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