Re: [WebDNA] Mailing list failure !!!
This WebDNA talk-list message is from 2019
It keeps the original formatting.
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texte = 2556 Hi Ken My email is hosted on a Google service. 100% of my email goes out from Googl= e SMTP.=20 I didn=E2=80=99t get Richard=E2=80=99s posts which aligns with your explanat= ion, however I never receive my own posts, so I guess Google is not respecti= ng the list server.=20 Regards Stuart Tremain Pharoah Lane Software=20 7/76 Reserve Road=20 Artarmon NSW 2064 AUSTRALIA +612 8971 4431 > On 10 Oct 2019, at 4:38 am, WebDNA Solutions
wro= te: >=20 > =EF=BB=BF >>=20 >> Email sent to this list is forwarded on with the from >> address intact - in this case a *@yahoo.com address ... >=20 > Hi Tom, >=20 > Who is using a yahoo.com address? >=20 > I've been referring to Richard Kwasniewski's emails in this > thread because he seems to be the only person whose posts > I have failed to receive lately, and he uses a Google address, > not a Yahoo address. So are you referring to someone else? > If so, who? >=20 >=20 >> the WebDNA list server is clearly not a Yahoo server. >=20 > This does not matter because the headers added by the list > server identify it as a list server, and therefore it is not > subject to the same DMARC policies as the original sender. >=20 > Here's my understanding: >=20 > Any misaligned posts received and then sent out by the > list server will be rejected by the final mail server *IF* > that final mail server is a Yahoo or Google SMTP server *OR* > if that final mail server employs the same strict DMARC > policies as Google or Yahoo. >=20 > This explains why some of us receive all talk list posts > while others do not. Bottom line: >=20 > If your subscribed address is provided by Google or Yahoo > you will NOT always receive every talk list post when the > original sender posted via a misaligned SMTP server. >=20 > I think these DMARC mail delivery failures would "go away > completely" if the subscribers to this list would always use > their email account provider's SMTP servers. In other words: >=20 > 1- If your subscribed email address is provided by Google, > always send your posts via the Google SMTP server. >=20 > 2- If your subscribed email address is provided by Yahoo, > always send your posts via the Yahoo SMTP server. >=20 > 3- If your subscribed email address is provided by any other > company that strictly applies DMARC policies, always send your > posts via that company's SMTP server. >=20 > Regards, > Kenneth Grome > WebDNA Solutions > http://www.webdnasolutions.com > Urgent/Emergency Phone: (228) 222-2917 > Website, Database, Network, and Communication Systems >=20 >=20 >=20 > --------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list talk@webdna.us > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: talk-leave@webdna.us > archives: http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 > Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us --------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list talk@webdna.us To unsubscribe, E-mail to: talk-leave@webdna.us archives: http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us .
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2556 Hi Ken My email is hosted on a Google service. 100% of my email goes out from Googl= e SMTP.=20 I didn=E2=80=99t get Richard=E2=80=99s posts which aligns with your explanat= ion, however I never receive my own posts, so I guess Google is not respecti= ng the list server.=20 Regards Stuart Tremain Pharoah Lane Software=20 7/76 Reserve Road=20 Artarmon NSW 2064 AUSTRALIA +612 8971 4431 > On 10 Oct 2019, at 4:38 am, WebDNA Solutions wro= te: >=20 > =EF=BB=BF >>=20 >> Email sent to this list is forwarded on with the from >> address intact - in this case a *@yahoo.com address ... >=20 > Hi Tom, >=20 > Who is using a yahoo.com address? >=20 > I've been referring to Richard Kwasniewski's emails in this > thread because he seems to be the only person whose posts > I have failed to receive lately, and he uses a Google address, > not a Yahoo address. So are you referring to someone else? > If so, who? >=20 >=20 >> the WebDNA list server is clearly not a Yahoo server. >=20 > This does not matter because the headers added by the list > server identify it as a list server, and therefore it is not > subject to the same DMARC policies as the original sender. >=20 > Here's my understanding: >=20 > Any misaligned posts received and then sent out by the > list server will be rejected by the final mail server *IF* > that final mail server is a Yahoo or Google SMTP server *OR* > if that final mail server employs the same strict DMARC > policies as Google or Yahoo. >=20 > This explains why some of us receive all Talk List posts > while others do not. Bottom line: >=20 > If your subscribed address is provided by Google or Yahoo > you will NOT always receive every Talk List post when the > original sender posted via a misaligned SMTP server. >=20 > I think these DMARC mail delivery failures would "go away > completely" if the subscribers to this list would always use > their email account provider's SMTP servers. In other words: >=20 > 1- If your subscribed email address is provided by Google, > always send your posts via the Google SMTP server. >=20 > 2- If your subscribed email address is provided by Yahoo, > always send your posts via the Yahoo SMTP server. >=20 > 3- If your subscribed email address is provided by any other > company that strictly applies DMARC policies, always send your > posts via that company's SMTP server. >=20 > Regards, > Kenneth Grome > WebDNA Solutions > http://www.webdnasolutions.com > Urgent/Emergency Phone: (228) 222-2917 > Website, Database, Network, and Communication Systems >=20 >=20 >=20 > --------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list talk@webdna.us > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: talk-leave@webdna.us > archives: http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 > Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us --------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list talk@webdna.us To unsubscribe, E-mail to: talk-leave@webdna.us archives: http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us .
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