Re: List of WebDNA users - Show of Hands

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2002

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texte = Hi there,We are getting more and more customers, coming over to WebDNA. Well, mainlythat�s because they like our Content Management System Redakto so much.Just yesterday we put a 10000 Items Shop online. The data is all coming outof a MS SQL Database and it is working quite nicely. Look at. It is english and german.SincerelyNitai AventaggiatoCEO On 2.7.2002 7:59 PM, Pedro Rivera wrote:> Paul,> > I couldn't agree more with you. Thank for your reply.> > I hope my manager and can convince our execs.> > -----Original Message-----> From: Paul Uttermohlen [mailto:Paul@Uttermohlen.com]> Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 10:45 AM> To: WebDNA-Talk@talk.smithmicro.com> Subject: Re: List of WebDNA users - Show of Hands> > > Pedro,> > WebDNA is certainly used on a lot of very nice sites. It is however one of> the most obscure development environments out there. I'd be surprise if more> than 100 shops on the planet are actively developing websites in WebDNA.> > Your execs are not opinion leaders. Rather than educate their peers on how> they have selected a superior development environment, they would prefer to> have one more thing in common with their fellow executives at other> corporations. It is this herd mentality that lifts inferior products to> dominant market shares. They and their peers know (well, not really -- none> could tell you what languages are used for ASP) what ASP is through> marketing and word of mouth. They know they gotta have it to be successful.> That other company has it and they are successful.> > Take a few simple snippets of webdna and replicate them in visual basic.> Show your executives how a few lines of webdna require tens, hundreds, and> in some cases thousands of lines of visual basic to replicate. Explain that> with hundreds of thousands of excess lines of code in a project that it will> take longer, costs more and is more likely to break than what you using.> Also mention that it will be slower.> > You can't place an appropriate value on WebDNA based on how many people or> companies are using it. The counter argument that the execs make is that it> will be harder to add staff members who know how to use it since it is so> obscure. The answer to that is that WebDNA is simple to learn and use. In my> last company I had more than 10 designers who were capable of integrating> WebDNA with their HTML code. You wouldn't necessarily want to have to train> designers to learn visual basic.> > Smith Micro will not tell you how many people use WebDNA. But if you are> determined to get a rough number, we can give it a try. Let's assume that> companies actively developing with WebDNA are subscribers to this list. This> may or may not be a valid assumption, but live with it. So a head count on> this list would give you a number of users. Last time I did this, we barely> broke 100. But let's look again.> > Go to http://uttermohlen.com/tasks/countme.htm to have your IP counted.> > Thanks, Paul> > > > On 7/2/02 12:41 PM, Pedro Rivera wrote:> >> Does Smith Micro have a list of companies that use WEBDNA? Some of our>> execs. are still not happy that we're not using .ASP So we want to show> them>> other websites that use this Great Technology.>> >> Thanks.>> >> Pedro Rivera>> Webmaster - Designer>> www.pssl.com>> pedror@pssl.com>> 714-891-3990 Ext. 8174>> 11070 Valley View St.>> Cypress CA. 90630>> > > > ___________________________________________________________________> Paul Uttermohlen> http://www.Uttermohlen.com/ (family)> > Web Services - site/server monitoring, hosting, server co-location,> development, e-commerce, email and more> > 5700 Saucony Drive> Hilliard, Ohio 43026> 614-529-8963 || 614-323-5146> ___________________________________________________________________> ___________________________________________________________________> > > > -------------------------------------------------------------> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to> the mailing list .> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to> > Web Archive of this list is at: http://search.smithmicro.com/> > -------------------------------------------------------------> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to> the mailing list .> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to> > Web Archive of this list is at: http://search.smithmicro.com/-- Tools to energize businessContent Management & eBusiness SystemsComputerOil� GmbH http://computeroil.com/Hauptstrasse 12 info@computeroil.com8252 Schlatt/SwitzerlandTel: +41 (0)52 654 15 55-------------------------------------------------------------This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list .To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://search.smithmicro.com/ Associated Messages, from the most recent to the oldest:

Re: List of WebDNA users - Show of Hands (Nitai @ ComputerOil 2002)
Re: List of WebDNA users - Show of Hands (Pedro Rivera 2002)
Re: List of WebDNA users - Show of Hands (Paul Uttermohlen 2002)

Hi there,We are getting more and more customers, coming over to WebDNA. Well, mainlythat�s because they like our Content Management System Redakto so much.Just yesterday we put a 10000 Items Shop online. The data is all coming outof a MS SQL Database and it is working quite nicely. Look at. It is english and german.SincerelyNitai AventaggiatoCEO On 2.7.2002 7:59 PM, Pedro Rivera wrote:> Paul,> > I couldn't agree more with you. Thank for your reply.> > I hope my manager and can convince our execs.> > -----Original Message-----> From: Paul Uttermohlen [mailto:Paul@Uttermohlen.com]> Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 10:45 AM> To: WebDNA-Talk@talk.smithmicro.com> Subject: Re: List of WebDNA users - Show of Hands> > > Pedro,> > WebDNA is certainly used on a lot of very nice sites. It is however one of> the most obscure development environments out there. I'd be surprise if more> than 100 shops on the planet are actively developing websites in WebDNA.> > Your execs are not opinion leaders. Rather than educate their peers on how> they have selected a superior development environment, they would prefer to> have one more thing in common with their fellow executives at other> corporations. It is this herd mentality that lifts inferior products to> dominant market shares. They and their peers know (well, not really -- none> could tell you what languages are used for ASP) what ASP is through> marketing and word of mouth. They know they gotta have it to be successful.> That other company has it and they are successful.> > Take a few simple snippets of webdna and replicate them in visual basic.> Show your executives how a few lines of webdna require tens, hundreds, and> in some cases thousands of lines of visual basic to replicate. Explain that> with hundreds of thousands of excess lines of code in a project that it will> take longer, costs more and is more likely to break than what you using.> Also mention that it will be slower.> > You can't place an appropriate value on WebDNA based on how many people or> companies are using it. The counter argument that the execs make is that it> will be harder to add staff members who know how to use it since it is so> obscure. The answer to that is that WebDNA is simple to learn and use. In my> last company I had more than 10 designers who were capable of integrating> WebDNA with their HTML code. You wouldn't necessarily want to have to train> designers to learn visual basic.> > Smith Micro will not tell you how many people use WebDNA. But if you are> determined to get a rough number, we can give it a try. Let's assume that> companies actively developing with WebDNA are subscribers to this list. This> may or may not be a valid assumption, but live with it. So a head count on> this list would give you a number of users. Last time I did this, we barely> broke 100. But let's look again.> > Go to http://uttermohlen.com/tasks/countme.htm to have your IP counted.> > Thanks, Paul> > > > On 7/2/02 12:41 PM, Pedro Rivera wrote:> >> Does Smith Micro have a list of companies that use WEBDNA? Some of our>> execs. are still not happy that we're not using .ASP So we want to show> them>> other websites that use this Great Technology.>> >> Thanks.>> >> Pedro Rivera>> Webmaster - Designer>> www.pssl.com>> pedror@pssl.com>> 714-891-3990 Ext. 8174>> 11070 Valley View St.>> Cypress CA. 90630>> > > > ___________________________________________________________________> Paul Uttermohlen> http://www.Uttermohlen.com/ (family)> > Web Services - site/server monitoring, hosting, server co-location,> development, e-commerce, email and more> > 5700 Saucony Drive> Hilliard, Ohio 43026> 614-529-8963 || 614-323-5146> ___________________________________________________________________> ___________________________________________________________________> > > > -------------------------------------------------------------> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to> the mailing list .> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to> > Web Archive of this list is at: http://search.smithmicro.com/> > -------------------------------------------------------------> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to> the mailing list .> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to> > Web Archive of this list is at: http://search.smithmicro.com/-- Tools to energize businessContent Management & eBusiness SystemsComputerOil� GmbH http://computeroil.com/Hauptstrasse 12 info@computeroil.com8252 Schlatt/SwitzerlandTel: +41 (0)52 654 15 55-------------------------------------------------------------This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list .To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://search.smithmicro.com/ Nitai @ ComputerOil

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