Re: Who owns the code?
This WebDNA talk-list message is from 2002
It keeps the original formatting.
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texte = [date]^^^^^^Above code (c) 2002 Strong Graphic Design (R). ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Please make all royalty checks out to SGD. Thank you.-Dan On Wed, 7 Aug 2002 12:28:06 Kenneth Grome
wrote: >Cute comparison, but not quite the same of course ... :) > >Intelligent webdna programmers always use snippets of >their previous code in new projects. Sometimes they >begin with the entire code base of a previous project, >then they modify it to fit a new project. To do this >legally with code you have already sold to someone else >requires a license to re-use that code -- and to retain >the ownership of any modifications or derivatives of that >code. > >Of course it can be done the other way as well, simply by >retaining ownership yourself, then giving the customer >the license to use it on one or more web sites. But most >customers expect to own the code since they are the ones >paying for it, thus my reason for selling the ownership >and retaining a license to re-use it in future projects. > >It seems like the last thing any webdna consultant would >ever want to do is to sell the rights to the code they >write for a customer without retaining the right to >re-use that code. Given the fact that the same snippets >of code can be modified for use in many future sites, why >would you cut your own throat by giving away your right >to re-use any code you have written? > >Anyways, this whole issue is one of those things that is >doubtful to ever bother you unless you create a great >site and then go out and try to sell it to the >competitors of your original customer -- which would >obviously be a very unethical thing to do -- but I have >heard of people doing just that. > >If you give encrypted copies of your templates to your >clients to be used on their web servers, then no one will >ever actually see the code you have written, even if they >manage to download the templates via FTP or copy them via >some other method, because they are encrypted. > >Only the 'big' clients ever ask about this issue anyways, >or at least that has been my experience. The rest seem >more concerned about getting their sites up and running >ASAP ... :) > > > >>Same sort of thing happened to me last week. >> >>I went into the local BMW Dealer and asked the rep about >>the price of an M3 >>- guy said he could do me a good deal as long as he and >>any of his mates >>could take it out for a spin whenever he felt like it. >> >>... >> >>On 7/8/02 3:13 PM, Kenneth Grome >>wrote: >> >>>> Ken, >>>> Who owns your clone's code? >>> >>> The owner of the code is the person who contracts with >>>me -- with the >>> provision that the owner gives me an unlimited license >>>to re-use all >>> or part of that code in the web sites I develop in the >>>future. >>> >>> >>> Sincerely, >>> Kenneth Grome >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------- >>> WebDNA Professional Training and Development Center >>> 175 J. Llorente Street +63 (32) 255-6921 >>> Cebu City, Cebu 6000 kengrome@webdna.net >>> Philippines http://www.webdna.net >>> --------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------- >>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed >>>to >>> the mailing list . >>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>> >>> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >>> >>> Web Archive of this list is at: >>>http://search.smithmicro.com/ >> >>-- >> >>Andrew Simpson >>Web Development >> >>Blackpepper Interactive Ltd >>PO Box 99805 >>Newmarket >> >>4 Clayton Street >>Newmarket >>Auckland >> >>Ph: +64 9 520-6281 >>Mob: 0272733270 >>Fax: +64 9 524-1849 >> >>http://www.blackpepper.co.nz >> >> >> >>------------------------------------------------------------- >>This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >> the mailing list . >>To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >> >>To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >> >>Web Archive of this list is at: >>http://search.smithmicro.com/ > > > >Sincerely, >Kenneth Grome > >--------------------------------------------------- >WebDNA Professional Training and Development Center >175 J. Llorente Street +63 (32) 255-6921 >Cebu City, Cebu 6000 kengrome@webdna.net >Philippines http://www.webdna.net >--------------------------------------------------- > >------------------------------------------------------------- >This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . >To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > >To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to > >Web Archive of this list is at: >http://search.smithmicro.com/------------------------------------------- http://www.StrongGraphicDesign.com (208) 319-0137 | Toll-free p/f 877-561-1656------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://search.smithmicro.com/
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[date]^^^^^^Above code (c) 2002 Strong Graphic Design (R). ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Please make all royalty checks out to SGD. Thank you.-Dan On Wed, 7 Aug 2002 12:28:06 Kenneth Grome wrote: >Cute comparison, but not quite the same of course ... :) > >Intelligent webdna programmers always use snippets of >their previous code in new projects. Sometimes they >begin with the entire code base of a previous project, >then they modify it to fit a new project. To do this >legally with code you have already sold to someone else >requires a license to re-use that code -- and to retain >the ownership of any modifications or derivatives of that >code. > >Of course it can be done the other way as well, simply by >retaining ownership yourself, then giving the customer >the license to use it on one or more web sites. But most >customers expect to own the code since they are the ones >paying for it, thus my reason for selling the ownership >and retaining a license to re-use it in future projects. > >It seems like the last thing any webdna consultant would >ever want to do is to sell the rights to the code they >write for a customer without retaining the right to >re-use that code. Given the fact that the same snippets >of code can be modified for use in many future sites, why >would you cut your own throat by giving away your right >to re-use any code you have written? > >Anyways, this whole issue is one of those things that is >doubtful to ever bother you unless you create a great >site and then go out and try to sell it to the >competitors of your original customer -- which would >obviously be a very unethical thing to do -- but I have >heard of people doing just that. > >If you give encrypted copies of your templates to your >clients to be used on their web servers, then no one will >ever actually see the code you have written, even if they >manage to download the templates via FTP or copy them via >some other method, because they are encrypted. > >Only the 'big' clients ever ask about this issue anyways, >or at least that has been my experience. The rest seem >more concerned about getting their sites up and running >ASAP ... :) > > > >>Same sort of thing happened to me last week. >> >>I went into the local BMW Dealer and asked the rep about >>the price of an M3 >>- guy said he could do me a good deal as long as he and >>any of his mates >>could take it out for a spin whenever he felt like it. >> >>... >> >>On 7/8/02 3:13 PM, Kenneth Grome >>wrote: >> >>>> Ken, >>>> Who owns your clone's code? >>> >>> The owner of the code is the person who contracts with >>>me -- with the >>> provision that the owner gives me an unlimited license >>>to re-use all >>> or part of that code in the web sites I develop in the >>>future. >>> >>> >>> Sincerely, >>> Kenneth Grome >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------- >>> WebDNA Professional Training and Development Center >>> 175 J. Llorente Street +63 (32) 255-6921 >>> Cebu City, Cebu 6000 kengrome@webdna.net >>> Philippines http://www.webdna.net >>> --------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------- >>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed >>>to >>> the mailing list . >>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>> >>> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >>> >>> Web Archive of this list is at: >>>http://search.smithmicro.com/ >> >>-- >> >>Andrew Simpson >>Web Development >> >>Blackpepper Interactive Ltd >>PO Box 99805 >>Newmarket >> >>4 Clayton Street >>Newmarket >>Auckland >> >>Ph: +64 9 520-6281 >>Mob: 0272733270 >>Fax: +64 9 524-1849 >> >>http://www.blackpepper.co.nz >> >> >> >>------------------------------------------------------------- >>This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >> the mailing list . >>To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >> >>To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >> >>Web Archive of this list is at: >>http://search.smithmicro.com/ > > > >Sincerely, >Kenneth Grome > >--------------------------------------------------- >WebDNA Professional Training and Development Center >175 J. Llorente Street +63 (32) 255-6921 >Cebu City, Cebu 6000 kengrome@webdna.net >Philippines http://www.webdna.net >--------------------------------------------------- > >------------------------------------------------------------- >This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . >To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > >To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to > >Web Archive of this list is at: >http://search.smithmicro.com/------------------------------------------- http://www.StrongGraphicDesign.com (208) 319-0137 | Toll-free p/f 877-561-1656------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://search.smithmicro.com/
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