Re: Sending Email

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2004


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texte = Donovan Thanks for your advice. In this instance there are no concerns, but it is a good point to remember for shared environments. BTW. Talking about Stalling Sandboxes, I have come across a couple of instances where email would not be sent out of two different sandboxes. Deleted the sandboxes, recreated them only to find that the email stopped happening after about 30 minutes. I have discussed this with Scott Anderson who offered a couple of solutions, neither of which worked. To resolve the issue I deleted 5 sandboxes that were superfluous and hey presto all works again. Has anybody else come across this type of behaviour ? On 02/12/2004, at 2:26 AM, Donovan Brooke wrote: > Stuart, > > Can use your thread to vent just a little? ;-) > > > I just want to express that people should *not* do stuff like this > in a shared environment. Some of "my" domains are in a shared > environment and > occassionally these sandboxs will "stall". I then start to wonder > what my > good neighbors are doing. Also, know that anytime 10,000 emails are > going out > that a good percentage of recipients are viewing it as spam. Another > smaller > percentage of those folks may be reporting your domain to a spam > database. Well, > in a shared environment, sometimes we share the same mail server. So, > when > these emails are going out, and people are proceeding to submit the > mail servers info to spam cop and others, it is not just their emails > that > are now getting blocked by the different protections systems out there > using > those spam databases! > > Please remember propper mass mailing etiquette by creating a *very* > easy > and working removal process that is plainly marked in each mail that > goes out. > > WebDNA has so much power and everytime these solutions come up it > irritates > me that these kinds of warnings don't come with it! Remember that this > is > a public forum and many folks here will be in a shared environment. > > If you are, please don't use emailer to mass market as there are many > many > cheap solutions out there. Also, emailer was not built to do this job > well. > > Try places like: > http://www.verticalresponse.com/ > > Its just better all around. > > > Thanks, > Donovan > > > > > > Stuart Tremain wrote: >> Hi >> I was wondering if anybody could tell me how many emails/hour I could >> expect to send through WebDNA. >> For example: If I dumped 10,000 emails into the email folder, how >> long could I expect to wait until it is cleared. >> I am using w2k with 1GB RAM 1GB PIII server, the SMTP server is on >> another windows box on the same internal network. >> Thanks > > > -- > =o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o > DONOVAN D. BROOKE Eucalyptus Design > <-Web Development (specializing in eCommerce), -> > <- Graphic Design, Custom Tags and Labels -> > > ADDRESS:> Donovan Brooke > DBA Eucalyptus Design > N2862 Summerville Park Rd. > Lodi, WI 53555 > PH:> 1.608.592.3567 > Web:> http://www.euca.us > =o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to > > Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ > > Regards Stuart Tremain idfk web developments 114a/40 yeo street neutral bay 2089 australia t +612 9908 2134 f +612 9908 4837 ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ Associated Messages, from the most recent to the oldest:

    
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Donovan Thanks for your advice. In this instance there are no concerns, but it is a good point to remember for shared environments. BTW. Talking about Stalling Sandboxes, I have come across a couple of instances where email would not be sent out of two different sandboxes. Deleted the sandboxes, recreated them only to find that the email stopped happening after about 30 minutes. I have discussed this with Scott Anderson who offered a couple of solutions, neither of which worked. To resolve the issue I deleted 5 sandboxes that were superfluous and hey presto all works again. Has anybody else come across this type of behaviour ? On 02/12/2004, at 2:26 AM, Donovan Brooke wrote: > Stuart, > > Can use your thread to vent just a little? ;-) > > > I just want to express that people should *not* do stuff like this > in a shared environment. Some of "my" domains are in a shared > environment and > occassionally these sandboxs will "stall". I then start to wonder > what my > good neighbors are doing. Also, know that anytime 10,000 emails are > going out > that a good percentage of recipients are viewing it as spam. Another > smaller > percentage of those folks may be reporting your domain to a spam > database. Well, > in a shared environment, sometimes we share the same mail server. So, > when > these emails are going out, and people are proceeding to submit the > mail servers info to spam cop and others, it is not just their emails > that > are now getting blocked by the different protections systems out there > using > those spam databases! > > Please remember propper mass mailing etiquette by creating a *very* > easy > and working removal process that is plainly marked in each mail that > goes out. > > WebDNA has so much power and everytime these solutions come up it > irritates > me that these kinds of warnings don't come with it! Remember that this > is > a public forum and many folks here will be in a shared environment. > > If you are, please don't use emailer to mass market as there are many > many > cheap solutions out there. Also, emailer was not built to do this job > well. > > Try places like: > http://www.verticalresponse.com/ > > Its just better all around. > > > Thanks, > Donovan > > > > > > Stuart Tremain wrote: >> Hi >> I was wondering if anybody could tell me how many emails/hour I could >> expect to send through WebDNA. >> For example: If I dumped 10,000 emails into the email folder, how >> long could I expect to wait until it is cleared. >> I am using w2k with 1GB RAM 1GB PIII server, the SMTP server is on >> another windows box on the same internal network. >> Thanks > > > -- > =o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o > DONOVAN D. BROOKE Eucalyptus Design > <-Web Development (specializing in eCommerce), -> > <- Graphic Design, Custom Tags and Labels -> > > ADDRESS:> Donovan Brooke > DBA Eucalyptus Design > N2862 Summerville Park Rd. > Lodi, WI 53555 > PH:> 1.608.592.3567 > Web:> http://www.euca.us > =o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to > > Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ > > Regards Stuart Tremain idfk web developments 114a/40 yeo street neutral bay 2089 australia t +612 9908 2134 f +612 9908 4837 ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ Stuart Tremain

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