Re: Here we go again...
This WebDNA talk-list message is from 2006
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texte = Adam O'Connor wrote: > I don't see how webcat can remain competitive when there are other > hypertext preprocessors out there - better ones that are free i.e. PHP. > I think the main reason SM is being kept alive is from the people who > have too much time invested in WebDNA and don't want to make the switch > at this point. But, as service and support continues to be poor, > eventually more and more people are going to have to switch to a more > mainstream platform. I have been developing with webcat for 10 years > now, and really do enjoy working with it. But every client I have > worked with have had the same complaints, lack of support, lack of > development community, lack of industry acknowledgment, etc... Bottom > line, after spending all this cash, they feel boxed in. As the subject > line goes, here we go again.... Its Saturday, :-) So, I will take some time. Apparently unlike others on this list, I have always acquired the support that I've needed from SMSI. This is a tech list and not a direct communication with SMSI support. I think some forget that. Also, to be honest, I don't remember a time when I've had a "complaint" from my clients that WebDNA is not main stream. I'm not sure why that is because it seems reasonable that someone would bring that up. Maybe it's because of how I acquire the majority of my clients?.. word of mouth, building trust, examples etc.. and not so much bidding on jobs. I dunno. I just don't think I've heard that issue come up in any real important way. I've comming up on 10 years coding with webdna as well. I'm sure me and Adam have seen this all before. However, WebDNA is still here. Its still fun to code with. It still works in the industry just fine. Anyway, I wouldn't count the product, or SMSI out at this time. In fact, I've had recent issues where I've gotten timely response... not instant.. but timely. As far as webdna being competitive with PHP, there are lots of variables and the two formats are very different IMO. I think most agree that WebDNA is far more fun to code. ;-) Its also a multi-platform solution that installs everything you need (except the server) in one swoop. The pricing is a stickler.. yes... and there are many other variables. But, that doesn't mean someone won't find that WebDNA better fits there needs. It still fits my needs just fine. I've created many things that compete (in fuction) with most any other server side lang. out there usually in a fraction of the time and cost...as I'm sure many of you have as well. ..... on my own.. goin down the only road I've ever known. Like a drifter.. K, I'll stop now. :-( Donovan -- =o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o DONOVAN D. BROOKE EUCA Design Center <- Web Development (specializing in eCommerce),-> <- Custom Paint, Labels, and Specialty Signage. -> <- Home and Business Embellishment/Fabrication, -> <- Glass Blowing, and Art Glass -> PH/FAX:> 1 (608) 835-2476 Web:> http://www.egg.bz | http://www.euca.us =o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list
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Adam O'Connor wrote: > I don't see how webcat can remain competitive when there are other > hypertext preprocessors out there - better ones that are free i.e. PHP. > I think the main reason SM is being kept alive is from the people who > have too much time invested in WebDNA and don't want to make the switch > at this point. But, as service and support continues to be poor, > eventually more and more people are going to have to switch to a more > mainstream platform. I have been developing with webcat for 10 years > now, and really do enjoy working with it. But every client I have > worked with have had the same complaints, lack of support, lack of > development community, lack of industry acknowledgment, etc... Bottom > line, after spending all this cash, they feel boxed in. As the subject > line goes, here we go again.... Its Saturday, :-) So, I will take some time. Apparently unlike others on this list, I have always acquired the support that I've needed from SMSI. This is a tech list and not a direct communication with SMSI support. I think some forget that. Also, to be honest, I don't remember a time when I've had a "complaint" from my clients that WebDNA is not main stream. I'm not sure why that is because it seems reasonable that someone would bring that up. Maybe it's because of how I acquire the majority of my clients?.. word of mouth, building trust, examples etc.. and not so much bidding on jobs. I dunno. I just don't think I've heard that issue come up in any real important way. I've comming up on 10 years coding with webdna as well. I'm sure me and Adam have seen this all before. However, WebDNA is still here. Its still fun to code with. It still works in the industry just fine. Anyway, I wouldn't count the product, or SMSI out at this time. In fact, I've had recent issues where I've gotten timely response... not instant.. but timely. As far as webdna being competitive with PHP, there are lots of variables and the two formats are very different IMO. I think most agree that WebDNA is far more fun to code. ;-) Its also a multi-platform solution that installs everything you need (except the server) in one swoop. The pricing is a stickler.. yes... and there are many other variables. But, that doesn't mean someone won't find that WebDNA better fits there needs. It still fits my needs just fine. I've created many things that compete (in fuction) with most any other server side lang. out there usually in a fraction of the time and cost...as I'm sure many of you have as well. ..... on my own.. goin down the only road I've ever known. Like a drifter.. K, I'll stop now. :-( Donovan -- =o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o DONOVAN D. BROOKE EUCA Design Center <- Web Development (specializing in eCommerce),-> <- Custom Paint, Labels, and Specialty Signage. -> <- Home and Business Embellishment/Fabrication, -> <- Glass Blowing, and Art Glass -> PH/FAX:> 1 (608) 835-2476 Web:> http://www.egg.bz | http://www.euca.us =o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/
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