Re: [SMSI] WebDNA is too good to go away!
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texte = Ken... not news... what you state is true... 3 concurrent connections. but if you read what I wrote - it may not be clear the 1st time. > I would prefer to see that WebDNA be made as Free engine like PHP.... > seriously that is really what it is. (ie the developer edition is > made free and unlocked for only 1 Machine 1 domain use - no session > limitations) I was using the developer edition as a example of the preseeding statement and what could be done on SMSI part - removing the restriction of the concurrent connections. -- Regards, Marko On Monday, 8 May 2006 1:11 PM, Kenneth Grome
wrote: > the developer edition is made free and unlocked > for only 1 Machine 1 domain use - no session > limitations This is news to me! The last time I checked the Developer Edition had a limit of three concurrent sessions, and once you hit that limit you were forced to restart webdna -- because it wouldn't clear the "concurrent session counter" until the engine was restarted. So when did they make this change to a unlimited session Developer Edition??? Sincerely, Kenneth Grome On 08 May 2006 11:00:00 +1000, Marko Bernyk wrote: > LOL... I too started in 1996 with WebDNA! > > My 2 cents... > > > The Fact that WebDNA has tried to evolve from WebCatalog and as an > 'eCommerce solution' when there were none way back then, and now > still try and hold a viable position in a world where eCommerse > solution are a dime a dozen and based on a free engine - PHP. > > PHP may not be a money making machine - but developers are using the > engine and making modules etc... SMSI should do the same instead of > over complicating the solution with sandbox and their own modules - > your are really paying for their development time of these modules... > and well yes - but do you really need or want them all. Me no... not > just yet - but then it would be nice to be able to upgrade and > purchase these as module rather than a solution as it stands now. > > I would prefer to see that WebDNA be made as Free engine like PHP.... > seriously that is really what it is. (ie the developer edition is > made free and unlocked for only 1 Machine 1 domain use - no session > limitations) > > Then we as a commumity keep WebDNA alive and make modules like > shopping carts whatever so we can build our online stores. > > Take a look at X-Cart, it is a PHP Shopping Cart solution using Smarty. > X-Cart is huge but the third-party module area is just as big and > people are making money off of selling modules. > > > -- > Regards, > Marko > > > On Sunday, 7 May 2006 10:28 PM, Christophe Billiottet > wrote: > I agree with Donovan; imagine a WebDNA with a low price, as a cgi, > that could be sold on a site basis. I started to work with WebDNA > when it was named WebCatalog by Pacific Coast, in 1996 if i remember: > it was a Mac OS 8 executable CGI. It has always been a great piece of > software. I also think it has a huge potential market, amongst > designers and unexperienced webmasters (99% of sites owners), that > would not or cannot learn php/mysql to build anything from a simple > form-to-email to a complex graphical stock management software and > need to request programmer's help. > WebDNA would lower the computer skills necessary for programming. Add > a simple tag plugin made for GoLive and you would get a powerful tool > to build simple to complex websites, without leaving GoLive, ever. > > chris > > > > > > On May 6, 2006, at 11:30, Donovan Brooke wrote: > >> Ken, >> whenever you reply to me, Its always a balance of >> "do I really want to give this guy the fuel he wants"? >> (because anyone who's been on this list knows you live for it.) >> >> You always try to claim you know what I'm saying.. that's why >> I call you Rush L. Your slants seem to put words in peoples >> mouths.. why? you bored? Doesn't the Phiplipeans offer up >> enough drama? :-) >> >> Sigh, O.K., again, I never have time to read through your >> novels of slants.. but scanning through them. You say that >> you think I've never looked at any other solution.. where do >> you get this? You don't know me.. I don't send you chrstmas >> cards. >> >> I started out on Minivend (perl) before I started in WebDNA. Since >> then, I've looked at many solutons over the years... I've had >> no reason to change.. but thats just me. >> >> And Ken, your not saying anything different than I regarding >> zen-cart. I'm sure its just fine. But, even with WebDNA, someone >> can put up a store in "hours". I said coding by hand. >> >> Anyway, thats enough clarifying my comments (though I'm sure >> there are many other assumptions to be clarified ;-))... and enough >> fuel for you. >> >> My lasting question for you Ken is... since you always have negative >> stuff to say about WebDNA, and since you said earlier that you >> retired... >> and since you said all you do is PHP now... why are you still here? >> >> Donovan >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> =o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o >> DONOVAN D. BROOKE EUCA Design Center >> >> <- Web Development (specializing in eCommerce),-> >> <- Custom Paint, Labels, and Specialty Signage. -> >> <- Home and Business Embellishment/Fabrication, -> >> <- Glass Blowing, and Art Glass -> >> >> PH/FAX:> 1 (608) 835-2476 >> Web:> http://www.egg.bz | http://www.euca.us >> =o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------- >> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >> the mailing list . >> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to > digest@talk.smithmicro.com> >> Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ > > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to > > Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to > > Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . 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Ken... not news... what you state is true... 3 concurrent connections. but if you read what I wrote - it may not be clear the 1st time. > I would prefer to see that WebDNA be made as Free engine like PHP.... > seriously that is really what it is. (ie the developer edition is > made free and unlocked for only 1 Machine 1 domain use - no session > limitations) I was using the developer edition as a example of the preseeding statement and what could be done on SMSI part - removing the restriction of the concurrent connections. -- Regards, Marko On Monday, 8 May 2006 1:11 PM, Kenneth Grome wrote: > the developer edition is made free and unlocked > for only 1 Machine 1 domain use - no session > limitations This is news to me! The last time I checked the Developer Edition had a limit of three concurrent sessions, and once you hit that limit you were forced to restart webdna -- because it wouldn't clear the "concurrent session counter" until the engine was restarted. So when did they make this change to a unlimited session Developer Edition??? Sincerely, Kenneth Grome On 08 May 2006 11:00:00 +1000, Marko Bernyk wrote: > LOL... I too started in 1996 with WebDNA! > > My 2 cents... > > > The Fact that WebDNA has tried to evolve from WebCatalog and as an > 'eCommerce solution' when there were none way back then, and now > still try and hold a viable position in a world where eCommerse > solution are a dime a dozen and based on a free engine - PHP. > > PHP may not be a money making machine - but developers are using the > engine and making modules etc... SMSI should do the same instead of > over complicating the solution with sandbox and their own modules - > your are really paying for their development time of these modules... > and well yes - but do you really need or want them all. Me no... not > just yet - but then it would be nice to be able to upgrade and > purchase these as module rather than a solution as it stands now. > > I would prefer to see that WebDNA be made as Free engine like PHP.... > seriously that is really what it is. (ie the developer edition is > made free and unlocked for only 1 Machine 1 domain use - no session > limitations) > > Then we as a commumity keep WebDNA alive and make modules like > shopping carts whatever so we can build our online stores. > > Take a look at X-Cart, it is a PHP Shopping Cart solution using Smarty. > X-Cart is huge but the third-party module area is just as big and > people are making money off of selling modules. > > > -- > Regards, > Marko > > > On Sunday, 7 May 2006 10:28 PM, Christophe Billiottet > wrote: > I agree with Donovan; imagine a WebDNA with a low price, as a cgi, > that could be sold on a site basis. I started to work with WebDNA > when it was named WebCatalog by Pacific Coast, in 1996 if i remember: > it was a Mac OS 8 executable CGI. It has always been a great piece of > software. I also think it has a huge potential market, amongst > designers and unexperienced webmasters (99% of sites owners), that > would not or cannot learn php/mysql to build anything from a simple > form-to-email to a complex graphical stock management software and > need to request programmer's help. > WebDNA would lower the computer skills necessary for programming. Add > a simple tag plugin made for GoLive and you would get a powerful tool > to build simple to complex websites, without leaving GoLive, ever. > > chris > > > > > > On May 6, 2006, at 11:30, Donovan Brooke wrote: > >> Ken, >> whenever you reply to me, Its always a balance of >> "do I really want to give this guy the fuel he wants"? >> (because anyone who's been on this list knows you live for it.) >> >> You always try to claim you know what I'm saying.. that's why >> I call you Rush L. Your slants seem to put words in peoples >> mouths.. why? you bored? Doesn't the Phiplipeans offer up >> enough drama? :-) >> >> Sigh, O.K., again, I never have time to read through your >> novels of slants.. but scanning through them. You say that >> you think I've never looked at any other solution.. where do >> you get this? You don't know me.. I don't send you chrstmas >> cards. >> >> I started out on Minivend (perl) before I started in WebDNA. Since >> then, I've looked at many solutons over the years... I've had >> no reason to change.. but thats just me. >> >> And Ken, your not saying anything different than I regarding >> zen-cart. I'm sure its just fine. But, even with WebDNA, someone >> can put up a store in "hours". I said coding by hand. >> >> Anyway, thats enough clarifying my comments (though I'm sure >> there are many other assumptions to be clarified ;-))... and enough >> fuel for you. >> >> My lasting question for you Ken is... since you always have negative >> stuff to say about WebDNA, and since you said earlier that you >> retired... >> and since you said all you do is PHP now... why are you still here? >> >> Donovan >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> =o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o >> DONOVAN D. BROOKE EUCA Design Center >> >> <- Web Development (specializing in eCommerce),-> >> <- Custom Paint, Labels, and Specialty Signage. -> >> <- Home and Business Embellishment/Fabrication, -> >> <- Glass Blowing, and Art Glass -> >> >> PH/FAX:> 1 (608) 835-2476 >> Web:> http://www.egg.bz | http://www.euca.us >> =o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------- >> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >> the mailing list . >> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to > digest@talk.smithmicro.com> >> Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ > > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to > > Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to > > Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . 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