Re: [SMSI] WebDNA is too good to go away!
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texte = I see now, sorry about that, I just misunderstood. Sincerely, Kenneth Grome On 08 May 2006 13:43:18 +1000, Marko Bernyk wrote: > Ken... not news... > > what you state is true... 3 concurrent connections. > > but if you read what I wrote - it may not be clear the 1st time. > >> I would prefer to see that WebDNA be made as Free engine like PHP.... >> seriously that is really what it is. (ie the developer edition is >> made free and unlocked for only 1 Machine 1 domain use - no session >> limitations) > > I was using the developer edition as a example of the preseeding > statement and what could be done on SMSI part - removing the > restriction of the concurrent connections. > > -- > Regards, > Marko > > > On Monday, 8 May 2006 1:11 PM, Kenneth Grome
wrote: >> the developer edition is made free and unlocked >> for only 1 Machine 1 domain use - no session >> limitations > > > This is news to me! > > The last time I checked the Developer Edition had a limit of three > concurrent sessions, and once you hit that limit you were forced to > restart webdna -- because it wouldn't clear the "concurrent session > counter" until the engine was restarted. > > So when did they make this change to a unlimited session Developer > Edition??? > > Sincerely, > Kenneth Grome > > > > > > > On 08 May 2006 11:00:00 +1000, Marko Bernyk wrote: >> LOL... I too started in 1996 with WebDNA! >> >> My 2 cents... >> >> >> The Fact that WebDNA has tried to evolve from WebCatalog and as an >> 'eCommerce solution' when there were none way back then, and now >> still try and hold a viable position in a world where eCommerse >> solution are a dime a dozen and based on a free engine - PHP. >> >> PHP may not be a money making machine - but developers are using the >> engine and making modules etc... SMSI should do the same instead of >> over complicating the solution with sandbox and their own modules - >> your are really paying for their development time of these modules... >> and well yes - but do you really need or want them all. Me no... not >> just yet - but then it would be nice to be able to upgrade and >> purchase these as module rather than a solution as it stands now. >> >> I would prefer to see that WebDNA be made as Free engine like PHP.... >> seriously that is really what it is. (ie the developer edition is >> made free and unlocked for only 1 Machine 1 domain use - no session >> limitations) >> >> Then we as a commumity keep WebDNA alive and make modules like >> shopping carts whatever so we can build our online stores. >> >> Take a look at X-Cart, it is a PHP Shopping Cart solution using Smarty. >> X-Cart is huge but the third-party module area is just as big and >> people are making money off of selling modules. >> >> >> -- >> Regards, >> Marko >> >> >> On Sunday, 7 May 2006 10:28 PM, Christophe Billiottet >> wrote: >> I agree with Donovan; imagine a WebDNA with a low price, as a cgi, >> that could be sold on a site basis. I started to work with WebDNA >> when it was named WebCatalog by Pacific Coast, in 1996 if i remember: >> it was a Mac OS 8 executable CGI. It has always been a great piece of >> software. I also think it has a huge potential market, amongst >> designers and unexperienced webmasters (99% of sites owners), that >> would not or cannot learn php/mysql to build anything from a simple >> form-to-email to a complex graphical stock management software and >> need to request programmer's help. >> WebDNA would lower the computer skills necessary for programming. Add >> a simple tag plugin made for GoLive and you would get a powerful tool >> to build simple to complex websites, without leaving GoLive, ever. >> >> chris >> >> >> >> >> >> On May 6, 2006, at 11:30, Donovan Brooke wrote: >> >>> Ken, >>> whenever you reply to me, Its always a balance of >>> "do I really want to give this guy the fuel he wants"? >>> (because anyone who's been on this list knows you live for it.) >>> >>> You always try to claim you know what I'm saying.. that's why >>> I call you Rush L. Your slants seem to put words in peoples >>> mouths.. why? you bored? Doesn't the Phiplipeans offer up >>> enough drama? :-) >>> >>> Sigh, O.K., again, I never have time to read through your >>> novels of slants.. but scanning through them. You say that >>> you think I've never looked at any other solution.. where do >>> you get this? You don't know me.. I don't send you chrstmas >>> cards. >>> >>> I started out on Minivend (perl) before I started in WebDNA. Since >>> then, I've looked at many solutons over the years... I've had >>> no reason to change.. but thats just me. >>> >>> And Ken, your not saying anything different than I regarding >>> zen-cart. I'm sure its just fine. But, even with WebDNA, someone >>> can put up a store in "hours". I said coding by hand. >>> >>> Anyway, thats enough clarifying my comments (though I'm sure >>> there are many other assumptions to be clarified ;-))... and enough >>> fuel for you. >>> >>> My lasting question for you Ken is... since you always have negative >>> stuff to say about WebDNA, and since you said earlier that you >>> retired... >>> and since you said all you do is PHP now... why are you still here? >>> >>> Donovan >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> =o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o >>> DONOVAN D. BROOKE EUCA Design Center >>> >>> <- Web Development (specializing in eCommerce),-> >>> <- Custom Paint, Labels, and Specialty Signage. -> >>> <- Home and Business Embellishment/Fabrication, -> >>> <- Glass Blowing, and Art Glass -> >>> >>> PH/FAX:> 1 (608) 835-2476 >>> Web:> http://www.egg.bz | http://www.euca.us >>> =o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------- >>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>> the mailing list . >>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >> digest@talk.smithmicro.com> >>> Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------- >> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >> the mailing list . >> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >> >> Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------- >> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >> the mailing list . >> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >> >> Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to > > Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to > > Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . 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I see now, sorry about that, I just misunderstood. Sincerely, Kenneth Grome On 08 May 2006 13:43:18 +1000, Marko Bernyk wrote: > Ken... not news... > > what you state is true... 3 concurrent connections. > > but if you read what I wrote - it may not be clear the 1st time. > >> I would prefer to see that WebDNA be made as Free engine like PHP.... >> seriously that is really what it is. (ie the developer edition is >> made free and unlocked for only 1 Machine 1 domain use - no session >> limitations) > > I was using the developer edition as a example of the preseeding > statement and what could be done on SMSI part - removing the > restriction of the concurrent connections. > > -- > Regards, > Marko > > > On Monday, 8 May 2006 1:11 PM, Kenneth Grome wrote: >> the developer edition is made free and unlocked >> for only 1 Machine 1 domain use - no session >> limitations > > > This is news to me! > > The last time I checked the Developer Edition had a limit of three > concurrent sessions, and once you hit that limit you were forced to > restart webdna -- because it wouldn't clear the "concurrent session > counter" until the engine was restarted. > > So when did they make this change to a unlimited session Developer > Edition??? > > Sincerely, > Kenneth Grome > > > > > > > On 08 May 2006 11:00:00 +1000, Marko Bernyk wrote: >> LOL... I too started in 1996 with WebDNA! >> >> My 2 cents... >> >> >> The Fact that WebDNA has tried to evolve from WebCatalog and as an >> 'eCommerce solution' when there were none way back then, and now >> still try and hold a viable position in a world where eCommerse >> solution are a dime a dozen and based on a free engine - PHP. >> >> PHP may not be a money making machine - but developers are using the >> engine and making modules etc... SMSI should do the same instead of >> over complicating the solution with sandbox and their own modules - >> your are really paying for their development time of these modules... >> and well yes - but do you really need or want them all. Me no... not >> just yet - but then it would be nice to be able to upgrade and >> purchase these as module rather than a solution as it stands now. >> >> I would prefer to see that WebDNA be made as Free engine like PHP.... >> seriously that is really what it is. (ie the developer edition is >> made free and unlocked for only 1 Machine 1 domain use - no session >> limitations) >> >> Then we as a commumity keep WebDNA alive and make modules like >> shopping carts whatever so we can build our online stores. >> >> Take a look at X-Cart, it is a PHP Shopping Cart solution using Smarty. >> X-Cart is huge but the third-party module area is just as big and >> people are making money off of selling modules. >> >> >> -- >> Regards, >> Marko >> >> >> On Sunday, 7 May 2006 10:28 PM, Christophe Billiottet >> wrote: >> I agree with Donovan; imagine a WebDNA with a low price, as a cgi, >> that could be sold on a site basis. I started to work with WebDNA >> when it was named WebCatalog by Pacific Coast, in 1996 if i remember: >> it was a Mac OS 8 executable CGI. It has always been a great piece of >> software. I also think it has a huge potential market, amongst >> designers and unexperienced webmasters (99% of sites owners), that >> would not or cannot learn php/mysql to build anything from a simple >> form-to-email to a complex graphical stock management software and >> need to request programmer's help. >> WebDNA would lower the computer skills necessary for programming. Add >> a simple tag plugin made for GoLive and you would get a powerful tool >> to build simple to complex websites, without leaving GoLive, ever. >> >> chris >> >> >> >> >> >> On May 6, 2006, at 11:30, Donovan Brooke wrote: >> >>> Ken, >>> whenever you reply to me, Its always a balance of >>> "do I really want to give this guy the fuel he wants"? >>> (because anyone who's been on this list knows you live for it.) >>> >>> You always try to claim you know what I'm saying.. that's why >>> I call you Rush L. Your slants seem to put words in peoples >>> mouths.. why? you bored? Doesn't the Phiplipeans offer up >>> enough drama? :-) >>> >>> Sigh, O.K., again, I never have time to read through your >>> novels of slants.. but scanning through them. You say that >>> you think I've never looked at any other solution.. where do >>> you get this? You don't know me.. I don't send you chrstmas >>> cards. >>> >>> I started out on Minivend (perl) before I started in WebDNA. Since >>> then, I've looked at many solutons over the years... I've had >>> no reason to change.. but thats just me. >>> >>> And Ken, your not saying anything different than I regarding >>> zen-cart. I'm sure its just fine. But, even with WebDNA, someone >>> can put up a store in "hours". I said coding by hand. >>> >>> Anyway, thats enough clarifying my comments (though I'm sure >>> there are many other assumptions to be clarified ;-))... and enough >>> fuel for you. >>> >>> My lasting question for you Ken is... since you always have negative >>> stuff to say about WebDNA, and since you said earlier that you >>> retired... >>> and since you said all you do is PHP now... why are you still here? >>> >>> Donovan >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> =o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o >>> DONOVAN D. BROOKE EUCA Design Center >>> >>> <- Web Development (specializing in eCommerce),-> >>> <- Custom Paint, Labels, and Specialty Signage. -> >>> <- Home and Business Embellishment/Fabrication, -> >>> <- Glass Blowing, and Art Glass -> >>> >>> PH/FAX:> 1 (608) 835-2476 >>> Web:> http://www.egg.bz | http://www.euca.us >>> =o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o=o >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------- >>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>> the mailing list . >>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >> digest@talk.smithmicro.com> >>> Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------- >> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >> the mailing list . >> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >> >> Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------- >> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >> the mailing list . >> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >> >> Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to > > Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to > > Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . 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