Re: WebDNA's portability
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texte = One word on ColdFusion: I have been developing in ColdFusion in the last two years and in WebDNA since 1998 or alike. I like WebDNA, but when it comes to a lot of things it just can't hold up to ColdFusion. ColdFusion is based on Java. Thus if you don't have something you need in CF you just use Java. The integration with Java is so easy you can't even imagine. Two tags and the Java class is at your hands. Another thing is the database integration. I have spoken to SMSI for the last couple of years to integrate API's to every database, but they have not done so. with CF you just chose your database driver and your application just works, independent of the database (unless you did specific database SQl, like stored procedures and alike). We are in the middle of testing the newest CF Version 8 and it will blow a lot of people away. Seriously, it would take SMSI a lot of resources to bring WebDNA to that level. Anyhow, just a very short overview (and of course you could argue on these points too, but I won't reply. :-) Nitai On 3/7/07 5:31 PM, "Donovan Brooke"
wrote: > I'd say.. go ahead and learn PHP/MySQL if you have the resources. > Doesn't hurt to know more than one server-side language. > > Here's what I think: > WebDNA is a most excellent anomaly... A welcomed rare genetic > mis-hap if you will that is analogous to Hiro Nakamura... (who > hasn't reached his potential with his super powers yet) :-) > > (laughing at myself) > > Seriously, I don't think one could say, at this stage, that > WebDNA is a direct competitor with CF. CF has implemented > solid features that WebDNA never did in this last years. My > point is, if you look at WebDNA as a competitor of CF (at this point), I > think you will be disappointed. I look at WebDNA as a product > that is fun to work with, is a powerful and versatile solution, and > has the potential to be more. But, I hope, if SMSI ever gets around > to bringing there promise of a new patch to fruition!!, that > SMSI takes this into consideration in the price (I'm assuming > they don't have the resources to maneuver the product to be > a direct competitor with CF at this point). > > > Also, being a purchaser of this "product", and a publicly traded > company, I can imagine that SMSI is wanting this investment to > show promise of a payoff. I don't disagree with that thought... > every one needs money flow to keep things going. Unfortunately, I > am thinking that this perspective is not the healthy one towards > the success of the product. Sometimes you have to just realize > a product has potential and proceed with a little faith. I'm sure > the board members would totally agree with that sentiment. ;-) > Just think if Steve Jobs hadn't have came back to Apple in the mid 90's > and reinvested his time and energy towards the vision that is apple. > I don't think I would've had this amazing mac in front of me right now > to type this amazingly insightful email to this list. > > > Donovan > > -- ComputerOil - a brand of Incite Media AG - eBusiness Systems simplified. eContentPark - Enterprise Digital Asset Management free of charge eSurvey - Online Questionnaire made easy Redakto CMS - Content Management that simply works ComputerOil @ Incite Media AG Riedthofstrasse 124 8105 Regensdorf / Switzerland info@incitemedia.tv http://www.incitemedia.tv http://www.computeroil.com http://www.econtentpark.com ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/
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One word on ColdFusion: I have been developing in ColdFusion in the last two years and in WebDNA since 1998 or alike. I like WebDNA, but when it comes to a lot of things it just can't hold up to ColdFusion. ColdFusion is based on Java. Thus if you don't have something you need in CF you just use Java. The integration with Java is so easy you can't even imagine. Two tags and the Java class is at your hands. Another thing is the database integration. I have spoken to SMSI for the last couple of years to integrate API's to every database, but they have not done so. with CF you just chose your database driver and your application just works, independent of the database (unless you did specific database SQl, like stored procedures and alike). We are in the middle of testing the newest CF Version 8 and it will blow a lot of people away. Seriously, it would take SMSI a lot of resources to bring WebDNA to that level. Anyhow, just a very short overview (and of course you could argue on these points too, but I won't reply. :-) Nitai On 3/7/07 5:31 PM, "Donovan Brooke" wrote: > I'd say.. go ahead and learn PHP/MySQL if you have the resources. > Doesn't hurt to know more than one server-side language. > > Here's what I think: > WebDNA is a most excellent anomaly... A welcomed rare genetic > mis-hap if you will that is analogous to Hiro Nakamura... (who > hasn't reached his potential with his super powers yet) :-) > > (laughing at myself) > > Seriously, I don't think one could say, at this stage, that > WebDNA is a direct competitor with CF. CF has implemented > solid features that WebDNA never did in this last years. My > point is, if you look at WebDNA as a competitor of CF (at this point), I > think you will be disappointed. I look at WebDNA as a product > that is fun to work with, is a powerful and versatile solution, and > has the potential to be more. But, I hope, if SMSI ever gets around > to bringing there promise of a new patch to fruition!!, that > SMSI takes this into consideration in the price (I'm assuming > they don't have the resources to maneuver the product to be > a direct competitor with CF at this point). > > > Also, being a purchaser of this "product", and a publicly traded > company, I can imagine that SMSI is wanting this investment to > show promise of a payoff. I don't disagree with that thought... > every one needs money flow to keep things going. Unfortunately, I > am thinking that this perspective is not the healthy one towards > the success of the product. Sometimes you have to just realize > a product has potential and proceed with a little faith. I'm sure > the board members would totally agree with that sentiment. ;-) > Just think if Steve Jobs hadn't have came back to Apple in the mid 90's > and reinvested his time and energy towards the vision that is apple. > I don't think I would've had this amazing mac in front of me right now > to type this amazingly insightful email to this list. > > > Donovan > > -- ComputerOil - a brand of Incite Media AG - eBusiness Systems simplified. eContentPark - Enterprise Digital Asset Management free of charge eSurvey - Online Questionnaire made easy Redakto CMS - Content Management that simply works ComputerOil @ Incite Media AG Riedthofstrasse 124 8105 Regensdorf / Switzerland info@incitemedia.tv http://www.incitemedia.tv http://www.computeroil.com http://www.econtentpark.com ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/
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