Re: [WebDNA] WebDNA Crashing or Not **YES**
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texte = Unexpected and yet unexplained stretch of no crashing here.Hasn't had to reboot in 9 days.OSX 10.4.11Webstar 5.4.1WebDNa WebSTAR V Plug-in version 6.0Problem with us was that I had written this off to Webstar a lot because itperiodically loses connection with its own admin monitor and soft restartsits app. Difficult to determine where the actual problem was.But out of the blue an 8 day stretch and counting.I hate chasing ghosts.AlexOn 7/15/08 5:03 PM, "Jym Duane"
wrote:> AGAIN - three cheers!! for your part in rebirthing WebDNA!> > Hang in there ( I can personally relate to so many hats and task> overload - been there a lot!)> > I feel this language is the best and will pledge my help where possible> I am trying to find time in very near future to help out,> and I am sure others are too.> > And yes - anyone that is running systems beyond supported levels....try> to run at supported levels - or try a test on on older platform to confirm.> > our system runs fine until some bad bot hits bad code.> neither are webDNA issues.> have not had a regular crashing issue,> but if i did i would try to move a few sites to a simpler setup (maybe> one at a time) and isolate the issue that way.> > jym> > > Donovan Brooke wrote:>> Chris Wilkinson wrote:>>> Yes, the errors are intermittent. Yes the code, and case is correct.>>> >>> Seriously, the system can't even find it's own admin files!!! I tried>>> to log>>> in to the admin and got:>>> >>> " Error: template>>> 'CGI-Executables/WebCatalogEngine/Admin/Welcome.tpl' not>>> found">>> >>> >>> Details:>>> OS.....................: Mac OSX 10.3.9>>> hardware...............: G4 Xserve>>> hardware is X years old: 4 years>>> apache version.........: Apache 2.0.55 (iTools 8.0.5)>>> WebDNA version.........: 6.0a (whatever the last patch was...)>>> approx. size of WebDNA bases in RAM: 2 megs ?>>> RAM size...............: 2 GB>>> >>> crashes randomly.......: ?>>> crashes every X hours..: 72 hrs?>>> Is there a backup system? Yes>>> Any other application running on the same box? No>>> UPS....................: Yes>>> --------------------------------->>> >>> The logs are chock-full of>>> "www WebDNA[23572]: Could not establish connection with the module.">>> >>> I truly hope that these server instability issues are at the top of your>>> priority list, and that you have gathered the resources to deal with,>>> what I>>> see as an impending fatal flaw of WebDNA. Until you get this handled,>>> any>>> efforts on new features or marketing will be as effective as>>> rearranging the>>> deck chairs on the Titanic.>>> >>> "...can't hold on much longer.">>> >>> Truly concerned,>>> -Chris>> >> >> Chris,>> You are running configurations that are not supported with the>> current WebDNA installers.>> >> Apache 2.0.55 and iTools 8.x are not supported.>> >> Again, I understand the frustration involved with server problems.. and,>> it goes without saying, that our intention is to release a new patch that>> is fully tested with the newer configurations (Apache 2.x and the latest>> iTools).>> >> But let me be clear. It is a *futile* effort for me, or anyone else to>> troubleshoot a server that is running unsupported configurations.>> *Everyone*>> that has reported problems on this new list, and that has given>> server details, so far has been running something unsupported. Hell,>> I don't blame you guys. I want to run new configurations/tools as well.>> However, the trade-off is that you then have no base for pointing>> the finger of blame.>> >> I installed another 6.0a a few weeks ago on another older iMac G4 running>> all supported configurations, and it is running perfectly. I suggest>> everyone that is having problems, for the time being, do that as well.>> It may not get rid of all your problems, but it is the base you must>> build on right now, and people on the list will feel better about>> helping out.>> >> I also want to expose that I am not getting paid with my new title of>> VP... not yet at least! I take time away from my paying clients (which>> they certainly don't like, and my family certainly doesn't like) to>> try and help because I want to see this language survive and the>> WebDNA community grow. I am a WebDNA believer so to speak... I've>> drank the cool-ade and like it. ;-)>> >> So, I say, we all know where WebDNA is at in its current state and>> where it *was* heading before WSC acquired it. Lets stay positive.>> Run supported configurations if you can and give the product a>> little time to catch up to modern day.>> >> Also, a reminder that you guys can help as well! Send me an email>> noting your interest!>> >> >> Donovan>> >> >> >>
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Unexpected and yet unexplained stretch of no crashing here.Hasn't had to reboot in 9 days.OSX 10.4.11Webstar 5.4.1WebDNa WebSTAR V Plug-in version 6.0Problem with us was that I had written this off to Webstar a lot because itperiodically loses connection with its own admin monitor and soft restartsits app. Difficult to determine where the actual problem was.But out of the blue an 8 day stretch and counting.I hate chasing ghosts.AlexOn 7/15/08 5:03 PM, "Jym Duane" wrote:> AGAIN - three cheers!! for your part in rebirthing WebDNA!> > Hang in there ( I can personally relate to so many hats and task> overload - been there a lot!)> > I feel this language is the best and will pledge my help where possible> I am trying to find time in very near future to help out,> and I am sure others are too.> > And yes - anyone that is running systems beyond supported levels....try> to run at supported levels - or try a test on on older platform to confirm.> > our system runs fine until some bad bot hits bad code.> neither are webDNA issues.> have not had a regular crashing issue,> but if i did i would try to move a few sites to a simpler setup (maybe> one at a time) and isolate the issue that way.> > jym> > > Donovan Brooke wrote:>> Chris Wilkinson wrote:>>> Yes, the errors are intermittent. Yes the code, and case is correct.>>> >>> Seriously, the system can't even find it's own admin files!!! I tried>>> to log>>> in to the admin and got:>>> >>> " Error: template>>> 'CGI-Executables/WebCatalogEngine/Admin/Welcome.tpl' not>>> found">>> >>> >>> Details:>>> OS.....................: Mac OSX 10.3.9>>> hardware...............: G4 Xserve>>> hardware is X years old: 4 years>>> apache version.........: Apache 2.0.55 (iTools 8.0.5)>>> WebDNA version.........: 6.0a (whatever the last patch was...)>>> approx. size of WebDNA bases in RAM: 2 megs ?>>> RAM size...............: 2 GB>>> >>> crashes randomly.......: ?>>> crashes every X hours..: 72 hrs?>>> Is there a backup system? Yes>>> Any other application running on the same box? No>>> UPS....................: Yes>>> --------------------------------->>> >>> The logs are chock-full of>>> "www WebDNA[23572]: Could not establish connection with the module.">>> >>> I truly hope that these server instability issues are at the top of your>>> priority list, and that you have gathered the resources to deal with,>>> what I>>> see as an impending fatal flaw of WebDNA. Until you get this handled,>>> any>>> efforts on new features or marketing will be as effective as>>> rearranging the>>> deck chairs on the Titanic.>>> >>> "...can't hold on much longer.">>> >>> Truly concerned,>>> -Chris>> >> >> Chris,>> You are running configurations that are not supported with the>> current WebDNA installers.>> >> Apache 2.0.55 and iTools 8.x are not supported.>> >> Again, I understand the frustration involved with server problems.. and,>> it goes without saying, that our intention is to release a new patch that>> is fully tested with the newer configurations (Apache 2.x and the latest>> iTools).>> >> But let me be clear. It is a *futile* effort for me, or anyone else to>> troubleshoot a server that is running unsupported configurations.>> *Everyone*>> that has reported problems on this new list, and that has given>> server details, so far has been running something unsupported. Hell,>> I don't blame you guys. I want to run new configurations/tools as well.>> However, the trade-off is that you then have no base for pointing>> the finger of blame.>> >> I installed another 6.0a a few weeks ago on another older iMac G4 running>> all supported configurations, and it is running perfectly. I suggest>> everyone that is having problems, for the time being, do that as well.>> It may not get rid of all your problems, but it is the base you must>> build on right now, and people on the list will feel better about>> helping out.>> >> I also want to expose that I am not getting paid with my new title of>> VP... not yet at least! I take time away from my paying clients (which>> they certainly don't like, and my family certainly doesn't like) to>> try and help because I want to see this language survive and the>> WebDNA community grow. I am a WebDNA believer so to speak... I've>> drank the cool-ade and like it. ;-)>> >> So, I say, we all know where WebDNA is at in its current state and>> where it *was* heading before WSC acquired it. Lets stay positive.>> Run supported configurations if you can and give the product a>> little time to catch up to modern day.>> >> Also, a reminder that you guys can help as well! Send me an email>> noting your interest!>> >> >> Donovan>> >> >> >>
Alex McCombie
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