Re: [WebDNA] WebDNA Crashing or Not **YES**

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2008


It keeps the original formatting.
numero = 100302
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texte = Chris Wilkinson wrote: > Yes, the errors are intermittent. Yes the code, and case is correct. > > Seriously, the system can't even find it's own admin files!!! I tried to log > in to the admin and got: > > " Error: template 'CGI-Executables/WebCatalogEngine/Admin/Welcome.tpl' not > found" > > > Details: > OS.....................: Mac OSX 10.3.9 > hardware...............: G4 Xserve > hardware is X years old: 4 years > apache version.........: Apache 2.0.55 (iTools 8.0.5) > WebDNA version.........: 6.0a (whatever the last patch was...) > approx. size of WebDNA bases in RAM: 2 megs ? > RAM size...............: 2 GB > > crashes randomly.......: ? > crashes every X hours..: 72 hrs? > Is there a backup system? Yes > Any other application running on the same box? No > UPS....................: Yes > --------------------------------- > > The logs are chock-full of > "www WebDNA[23572]: Could not establish connection with the module." > > I truly hope that these server instability issues are at the top of your > priority list, and that you have gathered the resources to deal with, what I > see as an impending fatal flaw of WebDNA. Until you get this handled, any > efforts on new features or marketing will be as effective as rearranging the > deck chairs on the Titanic. > > "...can't hold on much longer." > > Truly concerned, > -Chris Chris, You are running configurations that are not supported with the current WebDNA installers. Apache 2.0.55 and iTools 8.x are not supported. Again, I understand the frustration involved with server problems.. and, it goes without saying, that our intention is to release a new patch that is fully tested with the newer configurations (Apache 2.x and the latest iTools). But let me be clear. It is a *futile* effort for me, or anyone else to troubleshoot a server that is running unsupported configurations. *Everyone* that has reported problems on this new list, and that has given server details, so far has been running something unsupported. Hell, I don't blame you guys. I want to run new configurations/tools as well. However, the trade-off is that you then have no base for pointing the finger of blame. I installed another 6.0a a few weeks ago on another older iMac G4 running all supported configurations, and it is running perfectly. I suggest everyone that is having problems, for the time being, do that as well. It may not get rid of all your problems, but it is the base you must build on right now, and people on the list will feel better about helping out. I also want to expose that I am not getting paid with my new title of VP... not yet at least! I take time away from my paying clients (which they certainly don't like, and my family certainly doesn't like) to try and help because I want to see this language survive and the WebDNA community grow. I am a WebDNA believer so to speak... I've drank the cool-ade and like it. ;-) So, I say, we all know where WebDNA is at in its current state and where it *was* heading before WSC acquired it. Lets stay positive. Run supported configurations if you can and give the product a little time to catch up to modern day. Also, a reminder that you guys can help as well! Send me an email noting your interest! Donovan -- Donovan D. Brooke PH/FAX: 1 (608) 291-2024 ------------------------------------------------ VP WebDNA Software Corporation 16192 Coastal Highway Lewes, DE 19958 Associated Messages, from the most recent to the oldest:

    
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  10. Re: [WebDNA] WebDNA Crashing or Not **YES** (Bob Wallis 2008)
  11. Re: [WebDNA] WebDNA Crashing or Not **YES** (Chris Wilkinson 2008)
  12. Re: [WebDNA] WebDNA Crashing or Not **YES** (Karl Schroll 2008)
  13. Re: [WebDNA] WebDNA Crashing or Not **YES** (World Wide Art 2008)
  14. Re: [WebDNA] WebDNA Crashing or Not **YES** (Gil Poulsen 2008)
  15. Re: [WebDNA] WebDNA Crashing or Not **YES** (Karl Schroll 2008)
  16. Re: [WebDNA] WebDNA Crashing or Not **YES** (Colin Sidwell 2008)
  17. Re: [WebDNA] WebDNA Crashing or Not **YES** (Gil Poulsen 2008)
  18. Re: [WebDNA] WebDNA Crashing or Not **YES** (Colin Sidwell 2008)
  19. Re: [WebDNA] WebDNA Crashing or Not **YES** (Colin Sidwell 2008)
  20. Re: [WebDNA] WebDNA Crashing or Not **YES** (Donovan Brooke 2008)
  21. Re: [WebDNA] WebDNA Crashing or Not **YES** (Colin Sidwell 2008)
  22. Re: [WebDNA] WebDNA Crashing or Not **YES** (Donovan Brooke 2008)
  23. Re: [WebDNA] WebDNA Crashing or Not **YES** (Colin Sidwell 2008)
  24. Re: [WebDNA] WebDNA Crashing or Not **YES** (Chris Wilkinson 2008)
  25. Re: [WebDNA] WebDNA Crashing or Not **YES** (Donovan Brooke 2008)
  26. Re: [WebDNA] WebDNA Crashing or Not **YES** (Steve Craig 2008)
  27. Re: [WebDNA] WebDNA Crashing or Not **YES** ("cw@e-wave.net" 2008)
Chris Wilkinson wrote: > Yes, the errors are intermittent. Yes the code, and case is correct. > > Seriously, the system can't even find it's own admin files!!! I tried to log > in to the admin and got: > > " Error: template 'CGI-Executables/WebCatalogEngine/Admin/Welcome.tpl' not > found" > > > Details: > OS.....................: Mac OSX 10.3.9 > hardware...............: G4 Xserve > hardware is X years old: 4 years > apache version.........: Apache 2.0.55 (iTools 8.0.5) > WebDNA version.........: 6.0a (whatever the last patch was...) > approx. size of WebDNA bases in RAM: 2 megs ? > RAM size...............: 2 GB > > crashes randomly.......: ? > crashes every X hours..: 72 hrs? > Is there a backup system? Yes > Any other application running on the same box? No > UPS....................: Yes > --------------------------------- > > The logs are chock-full of > "www WebDNA[23572]: Could not establish connection with the module." > > I truly hope that these server instability issues are at the top of your > priority list, and that you have gathered the resources to deal with, what I > see as an impending fatal flaw of WebDNA. Until you get this handled, any > efforts on new features or marketing will be as effective as rearranging the > deck chairs on the Titanic. > > "...can't hold on much longer." > > Truly concerned, > -Chris Chris, You are running configurations that are not supported with the current WebDNA installers. Apache 2.0.55 and iTools 8.x are not supported. Again, I understand the frustration involved with server problems.. and, it goes without saying, that our intention is to release a new patch that is fully tested with the newer configurations (Apache 2.x and the latest iTools). But let me be clear. It is a *futile* effort for me, or anyone else to troubleshoot a server that is running unsupported configurations. *Everyone* that has reported problems on this new list, and that has given server details, so far has been running something unsupported. Hell, I don't blame you guys. I want to run new configurations/tools as well. However, the trade-off is that you then have no base for pointing the finger of blame. I installed another 6.0a a few weeks ago on another older iMac G4 running all supported configurations, and it is running perfectly. I suggest everyone that is having problems, for the time being, do that as well. It may not get rid of all your problems, but it is the base you must build on right now, and people on the list will feel better about helping out. I also want to expose that I am not getting paid with my new title of VP... not yet at least! I take time away from my paying clients (which they certainly don't like, and my family certainly doesn't like) to try and help because I want to see this language survive and the WebDNA community grow. I am a WebDNA believer so to speak... I've drank the cool-ade and like it. ;-) So, I say, we all know where WebDNA is at in its current state and where it *was* heading before WSC acquired it. Lets stay positive. Run supported configurations if you can and give the product a little time to catch up to modern day. Also, a reminder that you guys can help as well! Send me an email noting your interest! Donovan -- Donovan D. Brooke PH/FAX: 1 (608) 291-2024 ------------------------------------------------ VP WebDNA Software Corporation 16192 Coastal Highway Lewes, DE 19958 Donovan Brooke

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