Re: [WebDNA] WebDNA Crashing or Not **YES**
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texte = Strange that you have crashing on windows. I have 5 windows boxes that don't crash. Regards Stuart Tremain IDFK Web Developments AUSTRALIA webdna@idfk.com.au On 19/07/2008, at 2:06 AM, Robie Blair wrote: > Something of interest the last couple of weeks is that I have a > process that > has consistently taken ~8000 (according to [ELAPSEDTIME]) in the > last 6-7 > years, is now only taking ~6000 to process. > > To combat the crashing issue, I just have the box restart every > night. I am > too chicken to suspend the restart process to see if the crashing has > stopped now ;-) > > Windows 2003 > IIS6 > WebDNA 4.5.1 > > Pretty weird stuff.....:-) > > Robie > > -----Original Message----- > From: Alex McCombie [mailto:Alex@AdventureSkies.com] > Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 6:57 AM > To: talk@webdna.us > Subject: Re: [WebDNA] WebDNA Crashing or Not **YES** > > Unexpected and yet unexplained stretch of no crashing here. > Hasn't had to reboot in 9 days. > > OSX 10.4.11 > Webstar 5.4.1 > WebDNa WebSTAR V Plug-in version 6.0 > > > Problem with us was that I had written this off to Webstar a lot > because it > periodically loses connection with its own admin monitor and soft > restarts > its app. Difficult to determine where the actual problem was. > > But out of the blue an 8 day stretch and counting. > > I hate chasing ghosts. > > Alex > > > > On 7/15/08 5:03 PM, "Jym Duane"
wrote: > >> AGAIN - three cheers!! for your part in rebirthing WebDNA! >> >> Hang in there ( I can personally relate to so many hats and task >> overload - been there a lot!) >> >> I feel this language is the best and will pledge my help where >> possible >> I am trying to find time in very near future to help out, >> and I am sure others are too. >> >> And yes - anyone that is running systems beyond supported >> levels....try >> to run at supported levels - or try a test on on older platform to > confirm. >> >> our system runs fine until some bad bot hits bad code. >> neither are webDNA issues. >> have not had a regular crashing issue, >> but if i did i would try to move a few sites to a simpler setup >> (maybe >> one at a time) and isolate the issue that way. >> >> jym >> >> >> Donovan Brooke wrote: >>> Chris Wilkinson wrote: >>>> Yes, the errors are intermittent. Yes the code, and case is >>>> correct. >>>> >>>> Seriously, the system can't even find it's own admin files!!! I >>>> tried >>>> to log >>>> in to the admin and got: >>>> >>>> " Error: template >>>> 'CGI-Executables/WebCatalogEngine/Admin/Welcome.tpl' not >>>> found" >>>> >>>> >>>> Details: >>>> OS.....................: Mac OSX 10.3.9 >>>> hardware...............: G4 Xserve >>>> hardware is X years old: 4 years >>>> apache version.........: Apache 2.0.55 (iTools 8.0.5) >>>> WebDNA version.........: 6.0a (whatever the last patch was...) >>>> approx. size of WebDNA bases in RAM: 2 megs ? >>>> RAM size...............: 2 GB >>>> >>>> crashes randomly.......: ? >>>> crashes every X hours..: 72 hrs? >>>> Is there a backup system? Yes >>>> Any other application running on the same box? No >>>> UPS....................: Yes >>>> --------------------------------- >>>> >>>> The logs are chock-full of >>>> "www WebDNA[23572]: Could not establish connection with the >>>> module." >>>> >>>> I truly hope that these server instability issues are at the top >>>> of your >>>> priority list, and that you have gathered the resources to deal >>>> with, >>>> what I >>>> see as an impending fatal flaw of WebDNA. Until you get this >>>> handled, >>>> any >>>> efforts on new features or marketing will be as effective as >>>> rearranging the >>>> deck chairs on the Titanic. >>>> >>>> "...can't hold on much longer." >>>> >>>> Truly concerned, >>>> -Chris >>> >>> >>> Chris, >>> You are running configurations that are not supported with the >>> current WebDNA installers. >>> >>> Apache 2.0.55 and iTools 8.x are not supported. >>> >>> Again, I understand the frustration involved with server >>> problems.. and, >>> it goes without saying, that our intention is to release a new >>> patch that >>> is fully tested with the newer configurations (Apache 2.x and the >>> latest >>> iTools). >>> >>> But let me be clear. It is a *futile* effort for me, or anyone >>> else to >>> troubleshoot a server that is running unsupported configurations. >>> *Everyone* >>> that has reported problems on this new list, and that has given >>> server details, so far has been running something unsupported. Hell, >>> I don't blame you guys. I want to run new configurations/tools as >>> well. >>> However, the trade-off is that you then have no base for pointing >>> the finger of blame. >>> >>> I installed another 6.0a a few weeks ago on another older iMac G4 >>> running >>> all supported configurations, and it is running perfectly. I suggest >>> everyone that is having problems, for the time being, do that as >>> well. >>> It may not get rid of all your problems, but it is the base you must >>> build on right now, and people on the list will feel better about >>> helping out. >>> >>> I also want to expose that I am not getting paid with my new title >>> of >>> VP... not yet at least! I take time away from my paying clients >>> (which >>> they certainly don't like, and my family certainly doesn't like) to >>> try and help because I want to see this language survive and the >>> WebDNA community grow. I am a WebDNA believer so to speak... I've >>> drank the cool-ade and like it. ;-) >>> >>> So, I say, we all know where WebDNA is at in its current state and >>> where it *was* heading before WSC acquired it. Lets stay positive. >>> Run supported configurations if you can and give the product a >>> little time to catch up to modern day. >>> >>> Also, a reminder that you guys can help as well! Send me an email >>> noting your interest! >>> >>> >>> Donovan >>> >>> >>> >>> > > > > > >
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Strange that you have crashing on windows. I have 5 windows boxes that don't crash. Regards Stuart Tremain IDFK Web Developments AUSTRALIA webdna@idfk.com.au On 19/07/2008, at 2:06 AM, Robie Blair wrote: > Something of interest the last couple of weeks is that I have a > process that > has consistently taken ~8000 (according to [elapsedtime]) in the > last 6-7 > years, is now only taking ~6000 to process. > > To combat the crashing issue, I just have the box restart every > night. I am > too chicken to suspend the restart process to see if the crashing has > stopped now ;-) > > Windows 2003 > IIS6 > WebDNA 4.5.1 > > Pretty weird stuff.....:-) > > Robie > > -----Original Message----- > From: Alex McCombie [mailto:Alex@AdventureSkies.com] > Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 6:57 AM > To: talk@webdna.us > Subject: Re: [WebDNA] WebDNA Crashing or Not **YES** > > Unexpected and yet unexplained stretch of no crashing here. > Hasn't had to reboot in 9 days. > > OSX 10.4.11 > Webstar 5.4.1 > WebDNa WebSTAR V Plug-in version 6.0 > > > Problem with us was that I had written this off to Webstar a lot > because it > periodically loses connection with its own admin monitor and soft > restarts > its app. Difficult to determine where the actual problem was. > > But out of the blue an 8 day stretch and counting. > > I hate chasing ghosts. > > Alex > > > > On 7/15/08 5:03 PM, "Jym Duane" wrote: > >> AGAIN - three cheers!! for your part in rebirthing WebDNA! >> >> Hang in there ( I can personally relate to so many hats and task >> overload - been there a lot!) >> >> I feel this language is the best and will pledge my help where >> possible >> I am trying to find time in very near future to help out, >> and I am sure others are too. >> >> And yes - anyone that is running systems beyond supported >> levels....try >> to run at supported levels - or try a test on on older platform to > confirm. >> >> our system runs fine until some bad bot hits bad code. >> neither are webDNA issues. >> have not had a regular crashing issue, >> but if i did i would try to move a few sites to a simpler setup >> (maybe >> one at a time) and isolate the issue that way. >> >> jym >> >> >> Donovan Brooke wrote: >>> Chris Wilkinson wrote: >>>> Yes, the errors are intermittent. Yes the code, and case is >>>> correct. >>>> >>>> Seriously, the system can't even find it's own admin files!!! I >>>> tried >>>> to log >>>> in to the admin and got: >>>> >>>> " Error: template >>>> 'CGI-Executables/WebCatalogEngine/Admin/Welcome.tpl' not >>>> found" >>>> >>>> >>>> Details: >>>> OS.....................: Mac OSX 10.3.9 >>>> hardware...............: G4 Xserve >>>> hardware is X years old: 4 years >>>> apache version.........: Apache 2.0.55 (iTools 8.0.5) >>>> WebDNA version.........: 6.0a (whatever the last patch was...) >>>> approx. size of WebDNA bases in RAM: 2 megs ? >>>> RAM size...............: 2 GB >>>> >>>> crashes randomly.......: ? >>>> crashes every X hours..: 72 hrs? >>>> Is there a backup system? Yes >>>> Any other application running on the same box? No >>>> UPS....................: Yes >>>> --------------------------------- >>>> >>>> The logs are chock-full of >>>> "www WebDNA[23572]: Could not establish connection with the >>>> module." >>>> >>>> I truly hope that these server instability issues are at the top >>>> of your >>>> priority list, and that you have gathered the resources to deal >>>> with, >>>> what I >>>> see as an impending fatal flaw of WebDNA. Until you get this >>>> handled, >>>> any >>>> efforts on new features or marketing will be as effective as >>>> rearranging the >>>> deck chairs on the Titanic. >>>> >>>> "...can't hold on much longer." >>>> >>>> Truly concerned, >>>> -Chris >>> >>> >>> Chris, >>> You are running configurations that are not supported with the >>> current WebDNA installers. >>> >>> Apache 2.0.55 and iTools 8.x are not supported. >>> >>> Again, I understand the frustration involved with server >>> problems.. and, >>> it goes without saying, that our intention is to release a new >>> patch that >>> is fully tested with the newer configurations (Apache 2.x and the >>> latest >>> iTools). >>> >>> But let me be clear. It is a *futile* effort for me, or anyone >>> else to >>> troubleshoot a server that is running unsupported configurations. >>> *Everyone* >>> that has reported problems on this new list, and that has given >>> server details, so far has been running something unsupported. Hell, >>> I don't blame you guys. I want to run new configurations/tools as >>> well. >>> However, the trade-off is that you then have no base for pointing >>> the finger of blame. >>> >>> I installed another 6.0a a few weeks ago on another older iMac G4 >>> running >>> all supported configurations, and it is running perfectly. I suggest >>> everyone that is having problems, for the time being, do that as >>> well. >>> It may not get rid of all your problems, but it is the base you must >>> build on right now, and people on the list will feel better about >>> helping out. >>> >>> I also want to expose that I am not getting paid with my new title >>> of >>> VP... not yet at least! I take time away from my paying clients >>> (which >>> they certainly don't like, and my family certainly doesn't like) to >>> try and help because I want to see this language survive and the >>> WebDNA community grow. I am a WebDNA believer so to speak... I've >>> drank the cool-ade and like it. ;-) >>> >>> So, I say, we all know where WebDNA is at in its current state and >>> where it *was* heading before WSC acquired it. Lets stay positive. >>> Run supported configurations if you can and give the product a >>> little time to catch up to modern day. >>> >>> Also, a reminder that you guys can help as well! Send me an email >>> noting your interest! >>> >>> >>> Donovan >>> >>> >>> >>> > > > > > >
Stuart Tremain
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