Re: [WebDNA] 3-5 GB of native WebDNA db in RAM?, else MySQL w/WebDNA [SQL] tags, else skip WebDNA altogether?
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texte = --Apple-Mail-5--142451700Content-Type: text/plain;charset=US-ASCII;format=flowed;delsp=yesContent-Transfer-Encoding: 7bitI've worked with databases just over 1gig and can tell you that I've been impressed with WebDNA's abilities. It just seems to behave predictably. It does require common sense and strategy to make sure that you aren't wasting any space unnecessarily.I think where WebDNA shines is when someone comes up with a great idea for handling something more efficiently, the changes required in WebDNA will be a fraction of what the same modifications would require in PHP or other languages.I'm working on a project now where the client wants the data to end up in SQL. I'm doing it straight WebDNA but adding spawned functions to sync the SQL data. It's nice for a lot of reasons; first, the data is saved in two places and two different formats and second, I can switch off the SQL functions when the client wants to take a copy of the working site to trade shows.On Jul 27, 2009, at 4:27 PM, Govinda wrote:> Hi all>> I am writing to ask those of you who have worked with really big > db's what is your experience. (I.e. million+ records.)> We are within the next weeks/months going to be setting up a site > seeded with a couple huge existing db's. One is 2 GB. The other > is closer to 1 GB. There will be some smaller db's we'll add in, > but I am first wanting to get your vote of confidence about using > WebDNA in the first place for this site. If it needs to be a > dedicated server so that we can have all the HD and RAM for ourself, > then we will. Is it reasonable to expect we can get the site > running, *happily* with native WebDNA db's that size?> OR is it reasonable to expect we can get the site running, *happily* > with MySQL db's that size and we use WebDNA to talk to them? How > are people finding the [SQL] tags in large heavy production > environments (if I said that right)?>> Or, do you feel we really should go PHP/MySQL to save pain later? > (I sure hope not, but eating the bitter pill now is far less painful > than after months of work that has to be all redone.)>> Thanks for any feedback!>> ------------> Govinda> govinda.webdnatalk@gmail.com>> ---------------------------------------------------------> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to> the mailing list
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--Apple-Mail-5--142451700Content-Type: text/plain;charset=US-ASCII;format=flowed;delsp=yesContent-Transfer-Encoding: 7bitI've worked with databases just over 1gig and can tell you that I've been impressed with WebDNA's abilities. It just seems to behave predictably. It does require common sense and strategy to make sure that you aren't wasting any space unnecessarily.I think where WebDNA shines is when someone comes up with a great idea for handling something more efficiently, the changes required in WebDNA will be a fraction of what the same modifications would require in PHP or other languages.I'm working on a project now where the client wants the data to end up in SQL. I'm doing it straight WebDNA but adding spawned functions to sync the SQL data. It's nice for a lot of reasons; first, the data is saved in two places and two different formats and second, I can switch off the SQL functions when the client wants to take a copy of the working site to trade shows.On Jul 27, 2009, at 4:27 PM, Govinda wrote:> Hi all>> I am writing to ask those of you who have worked with really big > db's what is your experience. (I.e. million+ records.)> We are within the next weeks/months going to be setting up a site > seeded with a couple huge existing db's. One is 2 GB. The other > is closer to 1 GB. There will be some smaller db's we'll add in, > but I am first wanting to get your vote of confidence about using > WebDNA in the first place for this site. If it needs to be a > dedicated server so that we can have all the HD and RAM for ourself, > then we will. Is it reasonable to expect we can get the site > running, *happily* with native WebDNA db's that size?> OR is it reasonable to expect we can get the site running, *happily* > with MySQL db's that size and we use WebDNA to talk to them? How > are people finding the [SQL] tags in large heavy production > environments (if I said that right)?>> Or, do you feel we really should go PHP/MySQL to save pain later? > (I sure hope not, but eating the bitter pill now is far less painful > than after months of work that has to be all redone.)>> Thanks for any feedback!>> ------------> Govinda> govinda.webdnatalk@gmail.com>> ---------------------------------------------------------> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to> the mailing list .> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us> old archives: http://dev.webdna.us/TalkListArchive/--Apple-Mail-5--142451700Content-Disposition: attachment;filename=smime.p7sContent-Type: application/pkcs7-signature;name=smime.p7sContent-Transfer-Encoding: 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--Apple-Mail-5--142451700--
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