Re: [WebDNA] Emailer Issue *SOLVED*

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It keeps the original formatting.
numero = 103355
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texte = > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --B_3333617037_11019906 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable So, it turns out that Emailer does great at email DoS attacks. Luckily, I only attacked myself and not a client. 24hrs later, I am just back up... FYI, here=B9s how it works... When you discover ten=B9s of thousands of emails in the EMailCompleted folder and the only way to remove them is to rename and re-create the folder, if you leave the ownership as root/admin, Emailer will continue to send an email [in this case, every 1 tick] until it is removed from the EMailFolder. Because the ownership/permissions did not allow it to move to EMailCompleted, it sat there sending for hours sending. Bummer... I did discover a few scripts that roll the folder periodically, but I was wondering if this is now built-in to the new version of WebDNA? Same with the .debug logs that can reach 15 GB? Anything else that can explode? ;-) Thanks, -Chris On 8/19/09 1:28 PM, "Kenneth Grome" wrote: > WebDNA used to get stuck on a bad email and everything got backed up unti= l you > removed it. Have you tried removing the oldest email file to see what > happens? >=20 >=20 > Sincerely, > Ken Grome >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >> > Hi all, >> > >> > This has come up in years past and I can't recall the fix >> > - rtfm and archives didn't help either. >> > >> > So, sendmail files are piling up in the EMailFolder - >> > appended Ttdone - and not making it into EMailCompleted. >> > At first, it was like a DoS attack, sending the emails >> > until I removed them manually, now they're not going out >> > at all. No error logging... >> > >> > I have checked the email prefs, rebooted the entire >> > machine (OS X Apache Module version 6.0a)...and hit the >> > following: >> > QuitEmailer.tpl >> > StartEmailer.tpl >> > RestartEmailer.tpl >> > >> > Any suggestions? >> > >> > Thanks, >> > -Chris >> > >> > >> > --------------------------------------------------------- >> > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >> > the mailing list . >> > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >> > archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >> > old archives: http://dev.webdna.us/TalkListArchive/ >> > Bug Reporting: >> > http://forum.webdna.us/eucabb.html?page=3Dtopics&category=3D2 >> >88 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 --B_3333617037_11019906 Content-type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Re: [WebDNA] Emailer Issue *SOLVED* So, i= t turns out that Emailer does great at email DoS attacks. Luckily, I only at= tacked myself and not a client. 24hrs later, I am just back up...

FYI, here’s how it works... When you discover ten’s of thousand= s of emails in the EMailCompleted folder and the only way to remove them is = to rename and re-create the folder, if you leave the ownership as root/admin= , Emailer will continue to send an email [in this case, every 1 tick] until = it is removed from the EMailFolder. Because the ownership/permissions did no= t allow it to move to EMailCompleted, it sat there sending for hours sending= . Bummer...

I did discover a few scripts that roll the folder periodically, but I was w= ondering if this is now built-in to the new version of WebDNA? Same with the= .debug logs that can reach 15 GB? Anything else that can explode? ;-)

Thanks,
-Chris




On 8/19/09 1:28 PM, "Kenneth Grome" <kengrome@gmail.com> wr= ote:

WebDNA used to get stuck on a bad email and everything = got backed up until you removed it.  Have you tried removing the oldest= email file to see what happens?


Sincerely,
Ken Grome






> Hi all,
>
> This has come up in years past and I can't recall the fix
> - rtfm and archives didn't help either.
>
> So, sendmail files are piling up in the EMailFolder -
> appended Ttdone - and not making it into EMailCompleted.
> At first, it was like a DoS attack, sending the emails
> until I removed them manually, now they're not going out
> at all. No error logging...
>
> I have checked the email prefs, rebooted the entire
> machine (OS X Apache Module version 6.0a)...and hit the
> following:
>  QuitEmailer.tpl
>  StartEmailer.tpl
>  RestartEmailer.tpl
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> Thanks,
> -Chris
>
>
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  1. Re: [WebDNA] Emailer Issue *SOLVED* (Chris Wilkinson 2009)
> This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --B_3333617037_11019906 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable So, it turns out that Emailer does great at email DoS attacks. Luckily, I only attacked myself and not a client. 24hrs later, I am just back up... FYI, here=B9s how it works... When you discover ten=B9s of thousands of emails in the EMailCompleted folder and the only way to remove them is to rename and re-create the folder, if you leave the ownership as root/admin, Emailer will continue to send an email [in this case, every 1 tick] until it is removed from the EMailFolder. Because the ownership/permissions did not allow it to move to EMailCompleted, it sat there sending for hours sending. Bummer... I did discover a few scripts that roll the folder periodically, but I was wondering if this is now built-in to the new version of WebDNA? Same with the .debug logs that can reach 15 GB? Anything else that can explode? ;-) Thanks, -Chris On 8/19/09 1:28 PM, "Kenneth Grome" wrote: > WebDNA used to get stuck on a bad email and everything got backed up unti= l you > removed it. Have you tried removing the oldest email file to see what > happens? >=20 >=20 > Sincerely, > Ken Grome >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >> > Hi all, >> > >> > This has come up in years past and I can't recall the fix >> > - rtfm and archives didn't help either. >> > >> > So, sendmail files are piling up in the EMailFolder - >> > appended Ttdone - and not making it into EMailCompleted. >> > At first, it was like a DoS attack, sending the emails >> > until I removed them manually, now they're not going out >> > at all. No error logging... >> > >> > I have checked the email prefs, rebooted the entire >> > machine (OS X Apache Module version 6.0a)...and hit the >> > following: >> > QuitEmailer.tpl >> > StartEmailer.tpl >> > RestartEmailer.tpl >> > >> > Any suggestions? >> > >> > Thanks, >> > -Chris >> > >> > >> > --------------------------------------------------------- >> > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >> > the mailing list . >> > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >> > archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >> > old archives: http://dev.webdna.us/TalkListArchive/ >> > Bug Reporting: >> > http://forum.webdna.us/eucabb.html?page=3Dtopics&category=3D2 >> >88 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 --B_3333617037_11019906 Content-type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Re: [WebDNA] Emailer Issue *SOLVED* So, i= t turns out that Emailer does great at email DoS attacks. Luckily, I only at= tacked myself and not a client. 24hrs later, I am just back up...

FYI, here’s how it works... When you discover ten’s of thousand= s of emails in the EMailCompleted folder and the only way to remove them is = to rename and re-create the folder, if you leave the ownership as root/admin= , Emailer will continue to send an email [in this case, every 1 tick] until = it is removed from the EMailFolder. Because the ownership/permissions did no= t allow it to move to EMailCompleted, it sat there sending for hours sending= . Bummer...

I did discover a few scripts that roll the folder periodically, but I was w= ondering if this is now built-in to the new version of WebDNA? Same with the= .debug logs that can reach 15 GB? Anything else that can explode? ;-)

Thanks,
-Chris




On 8/19/09 1:28 PM, "Kenneth Grome" <kengrome@gmail.com> wr= ote:

WebDNA used to get stuck on a bad email and everything = got backed up until you removed it.  Have you tried removing the oldest= email file to see what happens?


Sincerely,
Ken Grome






> Hi all,
>
> This has come up in years past and I can't recall the fix
> - rtfm and archives didn't help either.
>
> So, sendmail files are piling up in the EMailFolder -
> appended Ttdone - and not making it into EMailCompleted.
> At first, it was like a DoS attack, sending the emails
> until I removed them manually, now they're not going out
> at all. No error logging...
>
> I have checked the email prefs, rebooted the entire
> machine (OS X Apache Module version 6.0a)...and hit the
> following:
>  QuitEmailer.tpl
>  StartEmailer.tpl
>  RestartEmailer.tpl
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> Thanks,
> -Chris
>
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------
> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to
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> old archives: http://d= ev.webdna.us/TalkListArchive/
> Bug Reporting:
> ht= tp://forum.webdna.us/eucabb.html?page=3Dtopics&category=3D2
>88






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