Re: [WebDNA] Help with STMP Setup using Authentication with Google Apps in WebDNA
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texte = 854 Hi Andrew,=20 I=92m sure it helps, but I haven=92t worked on this OS (sierra) in a = server capacity. This is where I=92ll have to pass off to someone else :-) (My hunch is that the problem is something to do with that OS) Donovan On Dec 21, 2016, at 2:02 PM, Andrew Burger =
wrote: > We are moving from a machine with OS X 10.8.5 (Mountain Lion) to macOS = 10.12.2 (Sierra - latest public build). WebDNA is using Server = Unlimited license on both. Partly why we are going through this=85 >=20 > Here=92s some quick information from WebCatalog to help you better = understand our environment. >=20 > Mountain Lion Statistics (Old machine): >=20 > WebDNA - Enterprise Edition is currently in Full-Working = Unlimited mode > This serial number is licensed to run 1 copy > This serial number is licensed to run = Unlimited Domains > This serial number is licensed to open = Unlimited databases at one time > WebDNA - Enterprise Edition is running as unix-Macintosh = OS X Apache Module version 6.2 >=20 > Sierra Statistics (New machine): >=20 > WebDNA - Enterprise Edition is currently in Full-Working = Unlimited mode > This serial number is licensed to run 1 copy > This serial number is licensed to run = Unlimited Domains > This serial number is licensed to open = Unlimited databases at one time > WebDNA - Enterprise Edition is running as unix-Macintosh = OS X Apache Module version 8.2 >=20 >=20 > Hope that helps! >=20 >=20 > Andrew Burger >=20 >=20 >> On Dec 21, 2016, at 7:35 PM, Donovan Brooke wrote: >>=20 >> Is this a different operating system than the 6 server? If so, what = OS and version? >>=20 >> Is this the latest WebDNA Server 8 version? >>=20 >> Donovan >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> On Dec 21, 2016, at 1:30 PM, Andrew Burger = wrote: >>=20 >>> Hi Donovan. >>>=20 >>> Excellent question. Not using server sandboxes in this case = (because this is not a shared server situation). We are using a = dedicated physical server for this. >>>=20 >>> We can do whatever is needed on the server in every respect, with = the exception of what I=92m trying to pass through Google Apps with = Auth/SMTP, etc. Ideally, I=92d prefer not configure / troubleshoot / = secure-harden mail services there (since that is a real pain) if = possible. But, that being said, I=92ll do what I have to do. ;-) >>>=20 >>> Also, thanks for the note regarding bug reporting. Now that I have = the info from email notices, I=92ll go ahead and report that. >>>=20 >>> Thanks! >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> Andrew Burger >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>> On Dec 21, 2016, at 6:40 PM, Donovan Brooke = wrote: >>>>=20 >>>> One common mistake (I still make this mistake sometimes)=85=20 >>>> Are you using WebDNA Server SandBoxes by chance? >>>>=20 >>>> Regarding bug reporting, there is a link at the bottom of this = email. >>>>=20 >>>> Sincerely, >>>> Donovan >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> On Dec 21, 2016, at 12:11 PM, Andrew Burger = wrote: >>>>=20 >>>>> Hello Everyone, >>>>>=20 >>>>> Objective: >>>>> We are currently in the middle of migrating our production WebDNA = 6 server to a new one with WebDNA 8. The remaining piece left to get = working is having WebDNA send out email message via the sendmail = command. >>>>>=20 >>>>> Current Setup: >>>>> The current production WebDNA 6 server works via localhost = (although exactly how that works is a little bit of a mystery to me = since we haven=92t done any additional mail services setup on that = server but anyway=85). More to the point, I=92ve been able to get the = current production WebDNA server to work, as long as the proper SPF = record was in place. So we have a working routine in production now. >>>>>=20 >>>>> Steps Taken to Troubleshoot: >>>>> With the new WebDNA 8 server, I=92ve been unable to get the = sendmail command to send out a valid message. I have done verifications = through WebDNA Email Folders. EmailCompleted have properly processed the = message and confirmed that it =93sent=94 in the Email log file. = However, no message appears to go through to the recipients. I=92ve even = gone through an additional setup of setting up the G Suite SMTP relay = server and whitelisted the originating IP address of the new WebDNA = server inside the Relay settings and whitelisting the IP for emails in = Google Admin for regular SMTP (in addition to the proper SPF record like = I did for the currently working server). I haven=92t gotten any SPF = passes or rejections though, so I=92m not even entirely confident that = it=92s even getting to Google servers yet for processing. >>>>>=20 >>>>> Has anyone else had any luck getting email authentication working = with Google Apps email? I would truly appreciate anyone that has some = insight from anyone that=92s got this to work or whether we can confirm = if something has changed with the mechanism used for the sendmail = command between WebDNA 6 or 8... >>>>>=20 >>>>> Sorry if that=92s a lot of information up front but wanted to = explain what I=92m trying to accomplish and the steps taken so far to = generate some useful feedback. >>>>>=20 >>>>> Thanks so much and happy holidays! >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>> Andrew Burger >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>> PS - Pleased to meet all of you. Just subscribed to the list and = looking forward to getting to learn from the rest of you. >>>>>=20 >>>>> PPS - Also uncovered an issue in the WebCatalog Email Setup = preferences in WebDNA Server 8. It doesn=92t appear to be possible to = uncheck STMP Auth and Require TLS through the web interface once you = enable it. Had to manually force the param value back to 0 through a = WebDNA call to switch back and test =91localhost' settings. Is there a = proper way to report bugs like this or is already a known = issue?--------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>>>> the mailing list . >>>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >>>>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >>>>=20 >>>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>>> the mailing list . >>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >>>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >>>=20 >>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>> the mailing list . >>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >>=20 >> --------------------------------------------------------- >> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >> the mailing list . >> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >=20 > --------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us > Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us --------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . 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854 Hi Andrew,=20 I=92m sure it helps, but I haven=92t worked on this OS (sierra) in a = server capacity. This is where I=92ll have to pass off to someone else :-) (My hunch is that the problem is something to do with that OS) Donovan On Dec 21, 2016, at 2:02 PM, Andrew Burger = wrote: > We are moving from a machine with OS X 10.8.5 (Mountain Lion) to macOS = 10.12.2 (Sierra - latest public build). WebDNA is using Server = Unlimited license on both. Partly why we are going through this=85 >=20 > Here=92s some quick information from WebCatalog to help you better = understand our environment. >=20 > Mountain Lion Statistics (Old machine): >=20 > WebDNA - Enterprise Edition is currently in Full-Working = Unlimited mode > This serial number is licensed to run 1 copy > This serial number is licensed to run = Unlimited Domains > This serial number is licensed to open = Unlimited databases at one time > WebDNA - Enterprise Edition is running as unix-Macintosh = OS X Apache Module version 6.2 >=20 > Sierra Statistics (New machine): >=20 > WebDNA - Enterprise Edition is currently in Full-Working = Unlimited mode > This serial number is licensed to run 1 copy > This serial number is licensed to run = Unlimited Domains > This serial number is licensed to open = Unlimited databases at one time > WebDNA - Enterprise Edition is running as unix-Macintosh = OS X Apache Module version 8.2 >=20 >=20 > Hope that helps! >=20 >=20 > Andrew Burger >=20 >=20 >> On Dec 21, 2016, at 7:35 PM, Donovan Brooke wrote: >>=20 >> Is this a different operating system than the 6 server? If so, what = OS and version? >>=20 >> Is this the latest WebDNA Server 8 version? >>=20 >> Donovan >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> On Dec 21, 2016, at 1:30 PM, Andrew Burger = wrote: >>=20 >>> Hi Donovan. >>>=20 >>> Excellent question. Not using server sandboxes in this case = (because this is not a shared server situation). We are using a = dedicated physical server for this. >>>=20 >>> We can do whatever is needed on the server in every respect, with = the exception of what I=92m trying to pass through Google Apps with = Auth/SMTP, etc. Ideally, I=92d prefer not configure / troubleshoot / = secure-harden mail services there (since that is a real pain) if = possible. But, that being said, I=92ll do what I have to do. ;-) >>>=20 >>> Also, thanks for the note regarding bug reporting. Now that I have = the info from email notices, I=92ll go ahead and report that. >>>=20 >>> Thanks! >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> Andrew Burger >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>> On Dec 21, 2016, at 6:40 PM, Donovan Brooke = wrote: >>>>=20 >>>> One common mistake (I still make this mistake sometimes)=85=20 >>>> Are you using WebDNA Server SandBoxes by chance? >>>>=20 >>>> Regarding bug reporting, there is a link at the bottom of this = email. >>>>=20 >>>> Sincerely, >>>> Donovan >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> On Dec 21, 2016, at 12:11 PM, Andrew Burger = wrote: >>>>=20 >>>>> Hello Everyone, >>>>>=20 >>>>> Objective: >>>>> We are currently in the middle of migrating our production WebDNA = 6 server to a new one with WebDNA 8. The remaining piece left to get = working is having WebDNA send out email message via the sendmail = command. >>>>>=20 >>>>> Current Setup: >>>>> The current production WebDNA 6 server works via localhost = (although exactly how that works is a little bit of a mystery to me = since we haven=92t done any additional mail services setup on that = server but anyway=85). More to the point, I=92ve been able to get the = current production WebDNA server to work, as long as the proper SPF = record was in place. So we have a working routine in production now. >>>>>=20 >>>>> Steps Taken to Troubleshoot: >>>>> With the new WebDNA 8 server, I=92ve been unable to get the = sendmail command to send out a valid message. I have done verifications = through WebDNA Email Folders. EmailCompleted have properly processed the = message and confirmed that it =93sent=94 in the Email log file. = However, no message appears to go through to the recipients. I=92ve even = gone through an additional setup of setting up the G Suite SMTP relay = server and whitelisted the originating IP address of the new WebDNA = server inside the Relay settings and whitelisting the IP for emails in = Google Admin for regular SMTP (in addition to the proper SPF record like = I did for the currently working server). I haven=92t gotten any SPF = passes or rejections though, so I=92m not even entirely confident that = it=92s even getting to Google servers yet for processing. >>>>>=20 >>>>> Has anyone else had any luck getting email authentication working = with Google Apps email? I would truly appreciate anyone that has some = insight from anyone that=92s got this to work or whether we can confirm = if something has changed with the mechanism used for the sendmail = command between WebDNA 6 or 8... >>>>>=20 >>>>> Sorry if that=92s a lot of information up front but wanted to = explain what I=92m trying to accomplish and the steps taken so far to = generate some useful feedback. >>>>>=20 >>>>> Thanks so much and happy holidays! >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>> Andrew Burger >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>> PS - Pleased to meet all of you. Just subscribed to the list and = looking forward to getting to learn from the rest of you. >>>>>=20 >>>>> PPS - Also uncovered an issue in the WebCatalog Email Setup = preferences in WebDNA Server 8. It doesn=92t appear to be possible to = uncheck STMP Auth and Require TLS through the web interface once you = enable it. Had to manually force the param value back to 0 through a = WebDNA call to switch back and test =91localhost' settings. Is there a = proper way to report bugs like this or is already a known = issue?--------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>>>> the mailing list . >>>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >>>>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >>>>=20 >>>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>>> the mailing list . >>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >>>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >>>=20 >>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>> the mailing list . >>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >>=20 >> --------------------------------------------------------- >> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >> the mailing list . >> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >=20 > --------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us > Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us --------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . 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