I just can=E2=80=99t understand why a= nyone would want to have their own hardware anymore.
After having our own hardware both onsite and i= n a datacenter I have been given a new lease on life by not having to deal w= ith any of that now by using cloud services.
I won=E2=80=99t even have a dev box in the office a= nymore, it is far cheaper and easier to pay a 3rd party $5 a month to have a= development server than it is to have something in a rack taking up space &= amp; power in the office.
All we have now is 2 NAS boxes in the office plus 20+ servers with A= mazon, Linode, Digital Ocean & Nexcess. The system we have built at Amaz= on we could never replicate with our own hardware and be financially viable,= or for that case have the technical expertise to maintain. No need to carry= spare HDs or other circuitry, no need for a network engineer, no more call o= uts to deal with hardware issues at 11:30pm on Christmas night after a hard d= ay or partying. I can even administer servers from 30,000+ feet in an aeropl= ane these days. And when the hardware fails, it is already running seamlessl= y on another instance and I get an email telling me about it when I wake up.=
Then the other fa= ctors that come in - electricity redundancy, internet connection redundancy,= cooling & fire retardant systems, noice control - not my concern anymor= e !
If you are won= dering why Apple Server is changing all the time, you probably need to ask y= ourself if Apple really care about a product that is very quickly becoming o= bsolete - that is unless you are still looking for a pay phone because you d= on=E2=80=99t think that cell phones will ever take off.
Kind regards
St= uart Tremain
Pharoah Lane Software
AUSTRALIA
The purpose is quite simple. Migrating from Apple Server A= pp to
something else which includes a GUI. Primary usage isApache/WebDNA/Perl/Imagick.
I've used the Webmin GUI on Linux for more than a decade, and I
have never missed my old Apple/Mac servers since I switched.
Webmin lets me do practically everything I need to do o= n a server
via its GUI interface. First I use the VPS host's c= ontrol panel to
setup the initial OS, then I install and use W= ebmin for everything
else.
I do n= ot expect anyone who's been running Apple servers for
so long t= o want to learn a new system. After all humans are
creat= ures of habit who are often determined resist change,
sometime= s for far longer than they should.
But ...
If the time comes that a dedicated Apple fan decide= s to switch,
using Webmin to manage a Linux server makes a lot= of sense.
Regards,
Kenneth Grome=
WebDNA Solutions
http://www.webdnasolutions.comWeb= Database Systems and Linux Server Administration
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1647 --Apple-Mail-50B1AED8-5E94-404C-89CA-EA67F6BEA4FA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Curious what you get for and pay for. How much usage. Viability on MySQL etc= .. on amazon.=20 Robert Minor Cybermill.com 314-962-4024 ext 500 > On Mar 11, 2018, at 16:41, Stuart Tremain
wrote: >=20 > I just can=E2=80=99t understand why anyone would want to have their own ha= rdware anymore. >=20 > After having our own hardware both onsite and in a datacenter I have been g= iven a new lease on life by not having to deal with any of that now by using= cloud services. >=20 > I won=E2=80=99t even have a dev box in the office anymore, it is far cheap= er and easier to pay a 3rd party $5 a month to have a development server tha= n it is to have something in a rack taking up space & power in the office. >=20 > All we have now is 2 NAS boxes in the office plus 20+ servers with Amazon,= Linode, Digital Ocean & Nexcess. The system we have built at Amazon we coul= d never replicate with our own hardware and be financially viable, or for th= at case have the technical expertise to maintain. No need to carry spare HDs= or other circuitry, no need for a network engineer, no more call outs to de= al with hardware issues at 11:30pm on Christmas night after a hard day or pa= rtying. I can even administer servers from 30,000+ feet in an aeroplane thes= e days. And when the hardware fails, it is already running seamlessly on ano= ther instance and I get an email telling me about it when I wake up. >=20 > Then the other factors that come in - electricity redundancy, internet con= nection redundancy, cooling & fire retardant systems, noice control - not my= concern anymore ! >=20 > If you are wondering why Apple Server is changing all the time, you probab= ly need to ask yourself if Apple really care about a product that is very qu= ickly becoming obsolete - that is unless you are still looking for a pay pho= ne because you don=E2=80=99t think that cell phones will ever take off. >=20 >=20 > Kind regards >=20 > Stuart Tremain > Pharoah Lane Software > AUSTRALIA > webdna@idfk.com.au >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >>> On 12 Mar 2018, at 00:48, Kenneth Grome wrote:= >>>=20 >>> The purpose is quite simple. Migrating from Apple Server App to >>> something else which includes a GUI. Primary usage is >>> Apache/WebDNA/Perl/Imagick. >>=20 >> I've used the Webmin GUI on Linux for more than a decade, and I >> have never missed my old Apple/Mac servers since I switched. >>=20 >> Webmin lets me do practically everything I need to do on a server >> via its GUI interface. First I use the VPS host's control panel to >> setup the initial OS, then I install and use Webmin for everything >> else. >>=20 >> I do not expect anyone who's been running Apple servers for >> so long to want to learn a new system. After all humans are >> creatures of habit who are often determined resist change, >> sometimes for far longer than they should. >>=20 >> But ... >>=20 >> If the time comes that a dedicated Apple fan decides to switch, >> using Webmin to manage a Linux server makes a lot of sense. >>=20 >> Regards, >> Kenneth Grome >> WebDNA Solutions >> http://www.webdnasolutions.com >> Web Database Systems and Linux Server Administration >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> --------------------------------------------------------- >> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >> the mailing list talk@webdna.us >> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: talk-leave@webdna.us >> archives: http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 >> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >=20 > --------------------------------------------------------- This message is s= ent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list talk@webdna.us To u= nsubscribe, E-mail to: talk-leave@webdna.us archives: http://www.webdna.us/p= age.dna?numero=3D55 Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us --Apple-Mail-50B1AED8-5E94-404C-89CA-EA67F6BEA4FA Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Curious what you get for and pay for. How m= uch usage. Viability on MySQL etc. on amazon.
Robert Minor
=
314-962-4024 e= xt 500
I just can=E2=80=99t understand why a= nyone would want to have their own hardware anymore.
After having our own hardware both onsite and i= n a datacenter I have been given a new lease on life by not having to deal w= ith any of that now by using cloud services.
I won=E2=80=99t even have a dev box in the office a= nymore, it is far cheaper and easier to pay a 3rd party $5 a month to have a= development server than it is to have something in a rack taking up space &= amp; power in the office.
All we have now is 2 NAS boxes in the office plus 20+ servers with A= mazon, Linode, Digital Ocean & Nexcess. The system we have built at Amaz= on we could never replicate with our own hardware and be financially viable,= or for that case have the technical expertise to maintain. No need to carry= spare HDs or other circuitry, no need for a network engineer, no more call o= uts to deal with hardware issues at 11:30pm on Christmas night after a hard d= ay or partying. I can even administer servers from 30,000+ feet in an aeropl= ane these days. And when the hardware fails, it is already running seamlessl= y on another instance and I get an email telling me about it when I wake up.=
Then the other fa= ctors that come in - electricity redundancy, internet connection redundancy,= cooling & fire retardant systems, noice control - not my concern anymor= e !
If you are won= dering why Apple Server is changing all the time, you probably need to ask y= ourself if Apple really care about a product that is very quickly becoming o= bsolete - that is unless you are still looking for a pay phone because you d= on=E2=80=99t think that cell phones will ever take off.