On 11 Mar 2018, at 21:41, Stuart Tremain <webdna@idfk.com.au> = wrote:I just can=E2=80=99t = understand why anyone would want to have their own hardware anymore.--------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list talk@webdna.us To unsubscribe, E-mail to: talk-leave@webdna.us archives: http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 Bug Reporting: support@webdna.usAfter having our own = hardware both onsite and in a datacenter I have been given a new lease = on life by not having to deal with any of that now by using cloud = services.I = won=E2=80=99t even have a dev box in the office anymore, it is far = cheaper and easier to pay a 3rd party $5 a month to have a development = server than it is to have something in a rack taking up space & = power in the office.All we have now is 2 NAS boxes in the office plus 20+ servers = with Amazon, Linode, Digital Ocean & Nexcess. The system we have = built at Amazon we could never replicate with our own hardware and be = financially viable, or for that case have the technical expertise to = maintain. No need to carry spare HDs or other circuitry, no need for a = network engineer, no more call outs to deal with hardware issues at = 11:30pm on Christmas night after a hard day or partying. I can even = administer servers from 30,000+ feet in an aeroplane these days. And = when the hardware fails, it is already running seamlessly on another = instance and I get an email telling me about it when I wake = up.Then the = other factors that come in - electricity redundancy, internet connection = redundancy, cooling & fire retardant systems, noice control - not my = concern anymore !If you are wondering why Apple Server is changing all the = time, you probably need to ask yourself if Apple really care about a = product that is very quickly becoming obsolete - that is unless you are = still looking for a pay phone because you don=E2=80=99t think that cell = phones will ever take off.
On 12 Mar 2018, at 00:48, Kenneth Grome <ken@webdnasolutions.com> wrote:The purpose is quite = simple. Migrating from Apple Server App to
something else = which includes a GUI. Primary usage is
Apache/WebDNA/Perl/Imagick.
I've used the Webmin GUI on Linux for more than a decade, and = I
have never missed my old Apple/Mac servers since I = switched.
Webmin lets me do practically = everything I need to do on a server
via its GUI interface. = First I use the VPS host's control panel to
setup the = initial OS, then I install and use Webmin for everything
else.
I do not expect anyone = who's been running Apple servers for
so long to want to = learn a new system. After all humans are
creatures = of habit who are often determined resist change,
sometimes = for far longer than they should.
But ...
If the time comes that a dedicated Apple fan = decides to switch,
using Webmin to manage a Linux server = makes a lot of sense.
Regards,
Kenneth Grome
WebDNA Solutions
http://www.webdnasolutions.com
Web Database = Systems and Linux Server Administration
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On 11 Mar 2018, at 21:41, Stuart Tremain <webdna@idfk.com.au> = wrote:I just can=E2=80=99t = understand why anyone would want to have their own hardware anymore.--------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list talk@webdna.us To unsubscribe, E-mail to: talk-leave@webdna.us archives: http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 Bug Reporting: support@webdna.usAfter having our own = hardware both onsite and in a datacenter I have been given a new lease = on life by not having to deal with any of that now by using cloud = services.I = won=E2=80=99t even have a dev box in the office anymore, it is far = cheaper and easier to pay a 3rd party $5 a month to have a development = server than it is to have something in a rack taking up space & = power in the office.All we have now is 2 NAS boxes in the office plus 20+ servers = with Amazon, Linode, Digital Ocean & Nexcess. The system we have = built at Amazon we could never replicate with our own hardware and be = financially viable, or for that case have the technical expertise to = maintain. No need to carry spare HDs or other circuitry, no need for a = network engineer, no more call outs to deal with hardware issues at = 11:30pm on Christmas night after a hard day or partying. I can even = administer servers from 30,000+ feet in an aeroplane these days. And = when the hardware fails, it is already running seamlessly on another = instance and I get an email telling me about it when I wake = up.Then the = other factors that come in - electricity redundancy, internet connection = redundancy, cooling & fire retardant systems, noice control - not my = concern anymore !If you are wondering why Apple Server is changing all the = time, you probably need to ask yourself if Apple really care about a = product that is very quickly becoming obsolete - that is unless you are = still looking for a pay phone because you don=E2=80=99t think that cell = phones will ever take off.
On 12 Mar 2018, at 00:48, Kenneth Grome <ken@webdnasolutions.com> wrote:The purpose is quite = simple. Migrating from Apple Server App to
something else = which includes a GUI. Primary usage is
Apache/WebDNA/Perl/Imagick.
I've used the Webmin GUI on Linux for more than a decade, and = I
have never missed my old Apple/Mac servers since I = switched.
Webmin lets me do practically = everything I need to do on a server
via its GUI interface. = First I use the VPS host's control panel to
setup the = initial OS, then I install and use Webmin for everything
else.
I do not expect anyone = who's been running Apple servers for
so long to want to = learn a new system. After all humans are
creatures = of habit who are often determined resist change,
sometimes = for far longer than they should.
But ...
If the time comes that a dedicated Apple fan = decides to switch,
using Webmin to manage a Linux server = makes a lot of sense.
Regards,
Kenneth Grome
WebDNA Solutions
http://www.webdnasolutions.com
Web Database = Systems and Linux Server Administration
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