Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems

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texte = I was told that problems such as this can also be caused with storing an over abundance of completed emails. Hopefully, that took care of your problem. Tana -----Original Message----- From: WebDNA Talk [mailto:WebDNA-Talk@talk.smithmicro.com] On Behalf Of Jim Ziegler Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 7:27 PM To: WebDNA Talk Subject: Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems 50GB free on one drive; 97GB free on the other. WebDNA is using 335MB real and 386MB of virtual memory. The server has 2GB RAM, and right now about 600MB is inactive. I just now cleaned out a couple thousand emails from the "completed" folder. My trigger to delete them after 30 days wasn't working (oops) but is now. Jim Ziegler On Apr 8, 2008, at 8:55 PM, Tana Adams wrote: > This type of thing has happened to us as well -- for a while. We > finally > determined it had to be lack of disk space. We go in, clear away > some log > files and emails and it works fine (until it happens again a couple of > months later). > > You're lucky if you haven't lost any data because this sometimes > does happen > with us -- not that often but it has happened. The last few > hundred records > will just be gone because WebCat stopped right in the middle of it > writing > to the database. > > Anyway, I hope this helps. > > Tana > > -----Original Message----- > From: WebDNA Talk [mailto:WebDNA-Talk@talk.smithmicro.com] On > Behalf Of Will > Starck > Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 6:40 PM > To: WebDNA Talk > Subject: Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems > > Are you sure you're not running out of RAM? Running out of disk space? > > Cheers, > > Will > > PS: I was going to comment on an intermittent WebDNA problem I have > been > having since about 2004, but I reached my smartass quotient today > already, > so I kept my thoughts to myself... > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: WebDNA Talk [mailto:WebDNA-Talk@talk.smithmicro.com] On > Behalf Of Jim > Ziegler > Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 6:00 AM > To: WebDNA Talk > Subject: Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems > > I think that all the databases that are usually affected are using > an .hdr file. Many of my other dbs are in merge format. I'm almost > certain that all the fields in the .hdrs match the fields in the .dbs > ('cause the dbs wouldn't work at all if the fields didn't match), but > I guess I'll check again . Does anyone have any caveats on using hdr > files vs. embedding the field names in the dbs? > > Thanks. > Jim Ziegler > > On Apr 7, 2008, at 7:44 PM, Jim Ziegler wrote: >> Donovan and Christophe, >> First, thanks for you suggestions. >> >> I do FTP dbs and other files to the server, so owner and group are >> *not* www. However, I use the Access Control Lists to ensure that >> www has read and write permissions to all the files. I just double- >> checked, and those settings are still correct. It's always worked >> for me before... >> >> Jim >> >> On Apr 7, 2008, at 7:04 PM, Donovan Brooke wrote: >>> Jim Ziegler wrote: >>>> Hello, List, >>>> I'm baffled, and I can't find anything pertinent in the archives. >>>> I'm running WebDNA 6 on Mac OSX Server 10.4.11. >>>> Lately, every now and then, WebDNA balks. It does not shut down >>>> completely, but certain things stop working. Certain databases >>>> won't function, while others do. A certain [copyfile] tag fails. >>>> The problems occur on at least two of my WebDNA sites (apparently >>>> at the same time). It happened again today, and I found several >>>> of these errors in the WebDNA error log stating: >>>> Error: Can't open order file. Ignoring [OrderFile] context >>>> This happened on my shoppingcart page, which normally functions >>>> perfectly. >>>> One more interesting clue: When the craziness happened today, I >>>> flushed databases, and all is well again. >>>> Any ideas? >>>> Thanks in advance. I'm sorry if I'm not explaining this well. >>>> Jim Ziegler >>> >>> >>> Are you doing any manual file uploads that may effect permissions? >>> Kinda sounds like a permissions thing. >>> >>> Donovan >>> >>> > ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.9/1365 - Release Date: 4/8/2008 7:30 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.9/1365 - Release Date: 4/8/2008 7:30 AM ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ Associated Messages, from the most recent to the oldest:

    
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I was told that problems such as this can also be caused with storing an over abundance of completed emails. Hopefully, that took care of your problem. Tana -----Original Message----- From: WebDNA Talk [mailto:WebDNA-Talk@talk.smithmicro.com] On Behalf Of Jim Ziegler Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 7:27 PM To: WebDNA Talk Subject: Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems 50GB free on one drive; 97GB free on the other. WebDNA is using 335MB real and 386MB of virtual memory. The server has 2GB RAM, and right now about 600MB is inactive. I just now cleaned out a couple thousand emails from the "completed" folder. My trigger to delete them after 30 days wasn't working (oops) but is now. Jim Ziegler On Apr 8, 2008, at 8:55 PM, Tana Adams wrote: > This type of thing has happened to us as well -- for a while. We > finally > determined it had to be lack of disk space. We go in, clear away > some log > files and emails and it works fine (until it happens again a couple of > months later). > > You're lucky if you haven't lost any data because this sometimes > does happen > with us -- not that often but it has happened. The last few > hundred records > will just be gone because WebCat stopped right in the middle of it > writing > to the database. > > Anyway, I hope this helps. > > Tana > > -----Original Message----- > From: WebDNA Talk [mailto:WebDNA-Talk@talk.smithmicro.com] On > Behalf Of Will > Starck > Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 6:40 PM > To: WebDNA Talk > Subject: Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems > > Are you sure you're not running out of RAM? Running out of disk space? > > Cheers, > > Will > > PS: I was going to comment on an intermittent WebDNA problem I have > been > having since about 2004, but I reached my smartass quotient today > already, > so I kept my thoughts to myself... > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: WebDNA Talk [mailto:WebDNA-Talk@talk.smithmicro.com] On > Behalf Of Jim > Ziegler > Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 6:00 AM > To: WebDNA Talk > Subject: Re: Strange intermittent WebDNA problems > > I think that all the databases that are usually affected are using > an .hdr file. Many of my other dbs are in merge format. I'm almost > certain that all the fields in the .hdrs match the fields in the .dbs > ('cause the dbs wouldn't work at all if the fields didn't match), but > I guess I'll check again . Does anyone have any caveats on using hdr > files vs. embedding the field names in the dbs? > > Thanks. > Jim Ziegler > > On Apr 7, 2008, at 7:44 PM, Jim Ziegler wrote: >> Donovan and Christophe, >> First, thanks for you suggestions. >> >> I do FTP dbs and other files to the server, so owner and group are >> *not* www. However, I use the Access Control Lists to ensure that >> www has read and write permissions to all the files. I just double- >> checked, and those settings are still correct. It's always worked >> for me before... >> >> Jim >> >> On Apr 7, 2008, at 7:04 PM, Donovan Brooke wrote: >>> Jim Ziegler wrote: >>>> Hello, List, >>>> I'm baffled, and I can't find anything pertinent in the archives. >>>> I'm running WebDNA 6 on Mac OSX Server 10.4.11. >>>> Lately, every now and then, WebDNA balks. It does not shut down >>>> completely, but certain things stop working. Certain databases >>>> won't function, while others do. A certain [copyfile] tag fails. >>>> The problems occur on at least two of my WebDNA sites (apparently >>>> at the same time). It happened again today, and I found several >>>> of these errors in the WebDNA error log stating: >>>> Error: Can't open order file. Ignoring [orderfile] context >>>> This happened on my shoppingcart page, which normally functions >>>> perfectly. >>>> One more interesting clue: When the craziness happened today, I >>>> flushed databases, and all is well again. >>>> Any ideas? >>>> Thanks in advance. I'm sorry if I'm not explaining this well. >>>> Jim Ziegler >>> >>> >>> Are you doing any manual file uploads that may effect permissions? >>> Kinda sounds like a permissions thing. >>> >>> Donovan >>> >>> > ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.9/1365 - Release Date: 4/8/2008 7:30 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.9/1365 - Release Date: 4/8/2008 7:30 AM ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ "Tana Adams"

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