Re: [WebDNA] Help with STMP Setup using Authentication with Google
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texte = 864 Hmm, that=E2=80=99s good to know. Thanks! Andrew Burger > On Dec 22, 2016, at 8:03 PM, Donovan Brooke
wrote: >=20 > currently the only encryption option is TLS (unless I missed = something), so yes, uncheck is PLAIN.=20 >=20 > Donovan >=20 >=20 >=20 > On Dec 22, 2016, at 2:00 PM, Andrew Burger = wrote: >=20 >> Hi Tom, >>=20 >> Yes - I was aware of this setting but I tried this anyway. No = success. You usually get an email message if an insecure app tries to = access your account like that. Also tried the UnlockCapta option too to = see if that was involved in blocking somehow. >>=20 >> I=E2=80=99m looking into the SMTP authentication handshake like = Donovan suggested. The more I think about it, the more that I=E2=80=99m = more inclined to think it has something to do with the SSL communication = with certificates over port 465 (587 doesn=E2=80=99t seems to work even = though it=E2=80=99s an option), the particular way in which Google = accepts user logins & application passwords in an SMTP session, or = perhaps even the MX / security settings associated on Google=E2=80=99s = end. I=E2=80=99m starting there first and then circle back to WebDNA = once I eliminate a bunch of those variables. >>=20 >> A question on the implementation for the Email Setup (WebDNA = Preferences). For the checkbox that says Require TLS, I assume that = means it will try to communicate through an encrypted TLS connection = (and in my case, over port 465) when checked. However, if the TLS box = unchecked, put in the User Authentication Information, and specify port = 465, what type of connection is used? Does it initiate an unencrypted = connection through that specified port (like you would typically do with = say=E2=80=A6 port 25=E2=80=A6) or does it open an encrypted connection = over SSL to port 465? It would be helpful to understand the logic of = how it tries to connect when NOT requiring TLS. >>=20 >> Thanks again guys! >>=20 >>=20 >> Andrew Burger >>=20 >>> On Dec 22, 2016, at 10:54 AM, Tom Duke = wrote: >>>=20 >>> Andrew, >>>=20 >>> Hi - if you're trying to deal with Gmail / Google Apps maybe you = have to "allow less secure access" to your account: >>>=20 >>> https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/6010255?hl=3Den >>>=20 >>> - Tom >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >>> Digital Revolutionaries >>> 1st Floor, Castleriver House >>> 14-15 Parliament Street >>> Temple Bar,Dublin 2 >>> Ireland >>> ---------------------------------------------- >>> [t]: + 353 1 4403907 >>> [e]: >>> [w]: >>> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >>>=20 >>> On 22 December 2016 at 01:27, Donovan Brooke = wrote: >>> Google "smtp telnet" test. >>>=20 >>> Do your test with the server you are using, via the terminal. >>>=20 >>> D. Brooke Mobile >>>=20 >>>> On Dec 21, 2016, at 4:40 PM, Andrew Burger = wrote: >>>>=20 >>>> Of course. It's a possibility with a new release of a relatively = new OS. Do you (or anyone) have any feedback or knowledge of being able = to get SMTP Authentication to work with Google Apps at all? Or other = widely implemented cloud-hosted email services? Yes - I do acknowledge = the unique weirdness sometimes associated with Google Services in = general compared to other standard email approaches. >>>>=20 >>>> The new server machine is powered Server (under-the-hood Apache = 2.2), which ran and is practically unchanged from El Capitan (OS X = 10.11), at least in respect to the Website services=E2=80=A6 Do you = happen to know if sendmail / WebDNA 8 has similar problems under El = Capitan? It would be really helpful if anyone could verify that = something like this has worked before going down the route of starting = up a whole new test server. I=E2=80=99d also prefer not to go too far = back on the OS version, as that=E2=80=99s one of the major reasons for = the server migration to begin with=E2=80=A6 >>>>=20 >>>> Donovan - Definitely appreciate the help and time you=E2=80=99ve = put in so far and any additional insight you are willing to give. = Keeping my fingers crossed... >>>>=20 >>>> If anyone else has any experience with running WebDNA 8 on = relatively recent OS X/macOS versions, please feel free to pipe in too. >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> Thanks again! >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> Andrew Burger >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>> On Dec 21, 2016, at 8:56 PM, Donovan Brooke = wrote: >>>>>=20 >>>>> Hi Andrew, >>>>> I=E2=80=99m sure it helps, but I haven=E2=80=99t worked on this OS = (sierra) in a server capacity. >>>>> This is where I=E2=80=99ll have to pass off to someone else :-) >>>>>=20 >>>>> (My hunch is that the problem is something to do with that OS) >>>>>=20 >>>>> Donovan >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>>> On Dec 21, 2016, at 2:02 PM, Andrew Burger = wrote: >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> We are moving from a machine with OS X 10.8.5 (Mountain Lion) to = macOS 10.12.2 (Sierra - latest public build). WebDNA is using Server = Unlimited license on both. Partly why we are going through this=E2=80=A6 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> Here=E2=80=99s some quick information from WebCatalog to help you = better understand our environment. >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> Mountain Lion Statistics (Old machine): >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> WebDNA - Enterprise Edition is currently in Full-Working = Unlimited mode >>>>>> This serial number is licensed to run 1 copy >>>>>> This serial number is licensed to run Unlimited = Domains >>>>>> This serial number is licensed to open Unlimited = databases at one time >>>>>> WebDNA - Enterprise Edition is running as unix-Macintosh = OS X Apache Module version 6.2 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> Sierra Statistics (New machine): >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> WebDNA - Enterprise Edition is currently in Full-Working = Unlimited mode >>>>>> This serial number is licensed to run 1 copy >>>>>> This serial number is licensed to run Unlimited = Domains >>>>>> This serial number is licensed to open Unlimited = databases at one time >>>>>> WebDNA - Enterprise Edition is running as unix-Macintosh = OS X Apache Module version 8.2 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> Hope that helps! >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> Andrew Burger >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> On Dec 21, 2016, at 7:35 PM, Donovan Brooke = wrote: >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> Is this a different operating system than the 6 server? If so, = what OS and version? >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> Is this the latest WebDNA Server 8 version? >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> Donovan >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> On Dec 21, 2016, at 1:30 PM, Andrew Burger = wrote: >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> Hi Donovan. >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> Excellent question. Not using server sandboxes in this case = (because this is not a shared server situation). We are using a = dedicated physical server for this. >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> We can do whatever is needed on the server in every respect, = with the exception of what I=E2=80=99m trying to pass through Google = Apps with Auth/SMTP, etc. Ideally, I=E2=80=99d prefer not configure / = troubleshoot / secure-harden mail services there (since that is a real = pain) if possible. But, that being said, I=E2=80=99ll do what I have to = do. ;-) >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> Also, thanks for the note regarding bug reporting. Now that I = have the info from email notices, I=E2=80=99ll go ahead and report that. >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> Thanks! >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> Andrew Burger >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>> On Dec 21, 2016, at 6:40 PM, Donovan Brooke = wrote: >>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>> One common mistake (I still make this mistake sometimes)=E2=80=A6= >>>>>>>>> Are you using WebDNA Server SandBoxes by chance? >>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>> Regarding bug reporting, there is a link at the bottom of this = email. >>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>> Sincerely, >>>>>>>>> Donovan >>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>> On Dec 21, 2016, at 12:11 PM, Andrew Burger = wrote: >>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>> Hello Everyone, >>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>> Objective: >>>>>>>>>> We are currently in the middle of migrating our production = WebDNA 6 server to a new one with WebDNA 8. The remaining piece left to = get working is having WebDNA send out email message via the sendmail = command. >>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>> Current Setup: >>>>>>>>>> The current production WebDNA 6 server works via localhost = (although exactly how that works is a little bit of a mystery to me = since we haven=E2=80=99t done any additional mail services setup on that = server but anyway=E2=80=A6). More to the point, I=E2=80=99ve been able = to get the current production WebDNA server to work, as long as the = proper SPF record was in place. So we have a working routine in = production now. >>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>> Steps Taken to Troubleshoot: >>>>>>>>>> With the new WebDNA 8 server, I=E2=80=99ve been unable to get = the sendmail command to send out a valid message. I have done = verifications through WebDNA Email Folders. EmailCompleted have properly = processed the message and confirmed that it =E2=80=9Csent=E2=80=9D in = the Email log file. However, no message appears to go through to the = recipients. I=E2=80=99ve even gone through an additional setup of = setting up the G Suite SMTP relay server and whitelisted the originating = IP address of the new WebDNA server inside the Relay settings and = whitelisting the IP for emails in Google Admin for regular SMTP (in = addition to the proper SPF record like I did for the currently working = server). I haven=E2=80=99t gotten any SPF passes or rejections though, = so I=E2=80=99m not even entirely confident that it=E2=80=99s even = getting to Google servers yet for processing. >>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>> Has anyone else had any luck getting email authentication = working with Google Apps email? I would truly appreciate anyone that = has some insight from anyone that=E2=80=99s got this to work or whether = we can confirm if something has changed with the mechanism used for the = sendmail command between WebDNA 6 or 8... >>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>> Sorry if that=E2=80=99s a lot of information up front but = wanted to explain what I=E2=80=99m trying to accomplish and the steps = taken so far to generate some useful feedback. >>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>> Thanks so much and happy holidays! >>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>> Andrew Burger >>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>> PS - Pleased to meet all of you. Just subscribed to the list = and looking forward to getting to learn from the rest of you. >>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>> PPS - Also uncovered an issue in the WebCatalog Email Setup = preferences in WebDNA Server 8. It doesn=E2=80=99t appear to be = possible to uncheck STMP Auth and Require TLS through the web interface = once you enable it. Had to manually force the param value back to 0 = through a WebDNA call to switch back and test =E2=80=98localhost' = settings. Is there a proper way to report bugs like this or is already = a known issue?--------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>>>>>>>>> the mailing list . >>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>>>>>>>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >>>>>>>>>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>>>>>>>> the mailing list . >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>>>>>>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >>>>>>>>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>>>>>>> the mailing list . >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>>>>>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >>>>>>>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>>>>>> the mailing list . >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>>>>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >>>>>>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>>>>> the mailing list . >>>>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>>>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >>>>>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >>>>>=20 >>>>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>>>> the mailing list . >>>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >>>>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >>>>=20 >>>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>>> the mailing list . >>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >>>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >>>=20 >>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>> the mailing list . >>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >>>=20 >>> --------------------------------------------------------- This = message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . = To unsubscribe, E-mail to: archives: = http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us Bug Reporting: = support@webdna.us >>=20 >> --------------------------------------------------------- >> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >> the mailing list . >> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >=20 > --------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us > Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us --------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . 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864 Hmm, that=E2=80=99s good to know. Thanks! Andrew Burger > On Dec 22, 2016, at 8:03 PM, Donovan Brooke wrote: >=20 > currently the only encryption option is TLS (unless I missed = something), so yes, uncheck is PLAIN.=20 >=20 > Donovan >=20 >=20 >=20 > On Dec 22, 2016, at 2:00 PM, Andrew Burger = wrote: >=20 >> Hi Tom, >>=20 >> Yes - I was aware of this setting but I tried this anyway. No = success. You usually get an email message if an insecure app tries to = access your account like that. Also tried the UnlockCapta option too to = see if that was involved in blocking somehow. >>=20 >> I=E2=80=99m looking into the SMTP authentication handshake like = Donovan suggested. The more I think about it, the more that I=E2=80=99m = more inclined to think it has something to do with the SSL communication = with certificates over port 465 (587 doesn=E2=80=99t seems to work even = though it=E2=80=99s an option), the particular way in which Google = accepts user logins & application passwords in an SMTP session, or = perhaps even the MX / security settings associated on Google=E2=80=99s = end. I=E2=80=99m starting there first and then circle back to WebDNA = once I eliminate a bunch of those variables. >>=20 >> A question on the implementation for the Email Setup (WebDNA = Preferences). For the checkbox that says Require TLS, I assume that = means it will try to communicate through an encrypted TLS connection = (and in my case, over port 465) when checked. However, if the TLS box = unchecked, put in the User Authentication Information, and specify port = 465, what type of connection is used? Does it initiate an unencrypted = connection through that specified port (like you would typically do with = say=E2=80=A6 port 25=E2=80=A6) or does it open an encrypted connection = over SSL to port 465? It would be helpful to understand the logic of = how it tries to connect when NOT requiring TLS. >>=20 >> Thanks again guys! >>=20 >>=20 >> Andrew Burger >>=20 >>> On Dec 22, 2016, at 10:54 AM, Tom Duke = wrote: >>>=20 >>> Andrew, >>>=20 >>> Hi - if you're trying to deal with Gmail / Google Apps maybe you = have to "allow less secure access" to your account: >>>=20 >>> https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/6010255?hl=3Den >>>=20 >>> - Tom >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >>> Digital Revolutionaries >>> 1st Floor, Castleriver House >>> 14-15 Parliament Street >>> Temple Bar,Dublin 2 >>> Ireland >>> ---------------------------------------------- >>> [t]: + 353 1 4403907 >>> [e]: >>> [w]: >>> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >>>=20 >>> On 22 December 2016 at 01:27, Donovan Brooke = wrote: >>> Google "smtp telnet" test. >>>=20 >>> Do your test with the server you are using, via the terminal. >>>=20 >>> D. Brooke Mobile >>>=20 >>>> On Dec 21, 2016, at 4:40 PM, Andrew Burger = wrote: >>>>=20 >>>> Of course. It's a possibility with a new release of a relatively = new OS. Do you (or anyone) have any feedback or knowledge of being able = to get SMTP Authentication to work with Google Apps at all? Or other = widely implemented cloud-hosted email services? Yes - I do acknowledge = the unique weirdness sometimes associated with Google Services in = general compared to other standard email approaches. >>>>=20 >>>> The new server machine is powered Server (under-the-hood Apache = 2.2), which ran and is practically unchanged from El Capitan (OS X = 10.11), at least in respect to the Website services=E2=80=A6 Do you = happen to know if sendmail / WebDNA 8 has similar problems under El = Capitan? It would be really helpful if anyone could verify that = something like this has worked before going down the route of starting = up a whole new test server. I=E2=80=99d also prefer not to go too far = back on the OS version, as that=E2=80=99s one of the major reasons for = the server migration to begin with=E2=80=A6 >>>>=20 >>>> Donovan - Definitely appreciate the help and time you=E2=80=99ve = put in so far and any additional insight you are willing to give. = Keeping my fingers crossed... >>>>=20 >>>> If anyone else has any experience with running WebDNA 8 on = relatively recent OS X/macOS versions, please feel free to pipe in too. >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> Thanks again! >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> Andrew Burger >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>> On Dec 21, 2016, at 8:56 PM, Donovan Brooke = wrote: >>>>>=20 >>>>> Hi Andrew, >>>>> I=E2=80=99m sure it helps, but I haven=E2=80=99t worked on this OS = (sierra) in a server capacity. >>>>> This is where I=E2=80=99ll have to pass off to someone else :-) >>>>>=20 >>>>> (My hunch is that the problem is something to do with that OS) >>>>>=20 >>>>> Donovan >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>>> On Dec 21, 2016, at 2:02 PM, Andrew Burger = wrote: >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> We are moving from a machine with OS X 10.8.5 (Mountain Lion) to = macOS 10.12.2 (Sierra - latest public build). WebDNA is using Server = Unlimited license on both. Partly why we are going through this=E2=80=A6 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> Here=E2=80=99s some quick information from WebCatalog to help you = better understand our environment. >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> Mountain Lion Statistics (Old machine): >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> WebDNA - Enterprise Edition is currently in Full-Working = Unlimited mode >>>>>> This serial number is licensed to run 1 copy >>>>>> This serial number is licensed to run Unlimited = Domains >>>>>> This serial number is licensed to open Unlimited = databases at one time >>>>>> WebDNA - Enterprise Edition is running as unix-Macintosh = OS X Apache Module version 6.2 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> Sierra Statistics (New machine): >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> WebDNA - Enterprise Edition is currently in Full-Working = Unlimited mode >>>>>> This serial number is licensed to run 1 copy >>>>>> This serial number is licensed to run Unlimited = Domains >>>>>> This serial number is licensed to open Unlimited = databases at one time >>>>>> WebDNA - Enterprise Edition is running as unix-Macintosh = OS X Apache Module version 8.2 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> Hope that helps! >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> Andrew Burger >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> On Dec 21, 2016, at 7:35 PM, Donovan Brooke = wrote: >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> Is this a different operating system than the 6 server? If so, = what OS and version? >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> Is this the latest WebDNA Server 8 version? >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> Donovan >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> On Dec 21, 2016, at 1:30 PM, Andrew Burger = wrote: >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> Hi Donovan. >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> Excellent question. Not using server sandboxes in this case = (because this is not a shared server situation). We are using a = dedicated physical server for this. >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> We can do whatever is needed on the server in every respect, = with the exception of what I=E2=80=99m trying to pass through Google = Apps with Auth/SMTP, etc. Ideally, I=E2=80=99d prefer not configure / = troubleshoot / secure-harden mail services there (since that is a real = pain) if possible. But, that being said, I=E2=80=99ll do what I have to = do. ;-) >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> Also, thanks for the note regarding bug reporting. Now that I = have the info from email notices, I=E2=80=99ll go ahead and report that. >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> Thanks! >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> Andrew Burger >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>> On Dec 21, 2016, at 6:40 PM, Donovan Brooke = wrote: >>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>> One common mistake (I still make this mistake sometimes)=E2=80=A6= >>>>>>>>> Are you using WebDNA Server SandBoxes by chance? >>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>> Regarding bug reporting, there is a link at the bottom of this = email. >>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>> Sincerely, >>>>>>>>> Donovan >>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>> On Dec 21, 2016, at 12:11 PM, Andrew Burger = wrote: >>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>> Hello Everyone, >>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>> Objective: >>>>>>>>>> We are currently in the middle of migrating our production = WebDNA 6 server to a new one with WebDNA 8. The remaining piece left to = get working is having WebDNA send out email message via the sendmail = command. >>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>> Current Setup: >>>>>>>>>> The current production WebDNA 6 server works via localhost = (although exactly how that works is a little bit of a mystery to me = since we haven=E2=80=99t done any additional mail services setup on that = server but anyway=E2=80=A6). More to the point, I=E2=80=99ve been able = to get the current production WebDNA server to work, as long as the = proper SPF record was in place. So we have a working routine in = production now. >>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>> Steps Taken to Troubleshoot: >>>>>>>>>> With the new WebDNA 8 server, I=E2=80=99ve been unable to get = the sendmail command to send out a valid message. I have done = verifications through WebDNA Email Folders. EmailCompleted have properly = processed the message and confirmed that it =E2=80=9Csent=E2=80=9D in = the Email log file. However, no message appears to go through to the = recipients. I=E2=80=99ve even gone through an additional setup of = setting up the G Suite SMTP relay server and whitelisted the originating = IP address of the new WebDNA server inside the Relay settings and = whitelisting the IP for emails in Google Admin for regular SMTP (in = addition to the proper SPF record like I did for the currently working = server). I haven=E2=80=99t gotten any SPF passes or rejections though, = so I=E2=80=99m not even entirely confident that it=E2=80=99s even = getting to Google servers yet for processing. >>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>> Has anyone else had any luck getting email authentication = working with Google Apps email? I would truly appreciate anyone that = has some insight from anyone that=E2=80=99s got this to work or whether = we can confirm if something has changed with the mechanism used for the = sendmail command between WebDNA 6 or 8... >>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>> Sorry if that=E2=80=99s a lot of information up front but = wanted to explain what I=E2=80=99m trying to accomplish and the steps = taken so far to generate some useful feedback. >>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>> Thanks so much and happy holidays! >>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>> Andrew Burger >>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>> PS - Pleased to meet all of you. Just subscribed to the list = and looking forward to getting to learn from the rest of you. >>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>> PPS - Also uncovered an issue in the WebCatalog Email Setup = preferences in WebDNA Server 8. It doesn=E2=80=99t appear to be = possible to uncheck STMP Auth and Require TLS through the web interface = once you enable it. Had to manually force the param value back to 0 = through a WebDNA call to switch back and test =E2=80=98localhost' = settings. Is there a proper way to report bugs like this or is already = a known issue?--------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>>>>>>>>> the mailing list . >>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>>>>>>>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >>>>>>>>>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>>>>>>>> the mailing list . >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>>>>>>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >>>>>>>>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>>>>>>> the mailing list . >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>>>>>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >>>>>>>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>>>>>> the mailing list . >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>>>>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >>>>>>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>>>>> the mailing list . >>>>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>>>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >>>>>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >>>>>=20 >>>>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>>>> the mailing list . >>>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >>>>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >>>>=20 >>>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>>> the mailing list . >>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >>>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >>>=20 >>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>> the mailing list . >>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >>>=20 >>> --------------------------------------------------------- This = message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . = To unsubscribe, E-mail to: archives: = http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us Bug Reporting: = support@webdna.us >>=20 >> --------------------------------------------------------- >> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >> the mailing list . >> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >=20 > --------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us > Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us --------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . 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