Re: Smith Micro - no competition
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texte = Jay, Great to hear this! We are curious about the upgrade direction of WebCatalog, as you must know. Please disclose as much as your new public company policies will allow! ;) -- Mike Davis, President Network 13, Inc. http://www.network13.net/ LocalsOnline.com, Inc. http://www.localsonline.com/ Voice Of The Internet, Inc. http://www.voiceoftheinternet.com/ ICQ: 6572635If I had more time, I would have written less. - Mark Twain> From: Jay Van Vark
> Reply-To: (WebCatalog Talk) > Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 12:48:02 -0800 > To: (WebCatalog Talk) > Subject: Re: Smith Micro - no competition > > I hear your 2cents -- Please don't think that I have dropped off... I > am playing catch up with everything that I want to get done and yes I > do often focus and not participate as much as I should on the list... > > We are still getting the kinks out to get the list and support of our > product the appropriate level... > > On the silence..... My bad -- we are in a public company now and > there are things of course that we can't say... > > We are training more support staff, we are working on 4.0 --- very > very aggressively! I can't emphasize enough how much you will all > love 4.0... We have heard everything and working very very hard on > it... > > I don't want the negative attitude to stay of course... I have to > grow the market in the meantime - which means that I have a lot of > catch up marketing to do -- rebranding under Smith Micro Software and > getting the pipeline filled for media and printed and tradeshows > etc... We are about to finish the catch up and fine tune the plan for > moving forward... > > Thanks for the open dialog! > > >> Jay, >> If what you want is to get the word out about Webcatalog, that's great. >> And though your affiliate commission is as low as they come, I was quick to >> sign up because I see the greater good of name and product recognition. >> But by dropping all support off of this list, and chiming in from time to >> time with pat answers that basically ignore the major issues, it's likely >> that the word that will get out is going to be a negative one. Morale is >> low on this list. So, while you make headway with your own marketing >> efforts, you lose it with the developers who've been with you from the >> beginning. Those developers talk to a lot of companies, and many companies >> rely on them for direction. I don't expect Grant to take time to answer >> questions as he did in the past. But I have to wonder if you and John are >> the only SM eyes that look at this list anymore. Instead of the silence, >> how about a bit of good old open conversation, like in the old days. If we >> knew that John Jakovich was training some new tech support people, or you >> and Grant have been working on organizing the development team for version >> 4, the silence would be understandable. As it is, though, no one knows what >> you guys are up to. And, it's going to be counter productive to your >> greater marketing efforts if it continues this way. >> >> My 2¢ >> -- >> Mike Davis, President >> Network 13, Inc. http://www.network13.net/ >> LocalsOnline.com, Inc. http://www.localsonline.com/ >> Voice Of The Internet, Inc. http://www.voiceoftheinternet.com/ >> ICQ: 6572635 >> >> If I had more time, I would have written less. - Mark Twain >> >>> From: Jay Van Vark >>> Reply-To: (WebCatalog Talk) >>> Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 10:35:46 -0800 >>> To: (WebCatalog Talk) >>> Subject: Re: Smith Micro - no competition >>> >>> None taken... >>> >>> I am glad that you view it as such a strong competitive advantage >>> that you don't want your clients to know your tools... >>> >>> What I want to make sure is that those clients that dictate which >>> tool to use know that WebCatalog is the best tool around and that >>> lots of people are using it... We intend to be very public about the >>> fact that we use WebCatalog for very high profile sites and very >>> strong return on investment...! >>> >>> >>>>>> Just to make sure the record is straight -- we are not diverting >>>>>> resources. This effort is a self running effort. Again -- we are >>>>>> looking for ways to increase the exposure both in sales, market >>>>>> presence and use.... >>>>> >>>>> SMS is just one more competitor. But how do you know you will >> not infringe >>>>> upon anybody's business? >>>>> >>>>> Like the one day when somebody's client called SMS for some >> information on >>>>> WC and got a better quote for the development of their web site? >>>>> >>>>> How do you know that somebody calling you has not already been >> submitted a >>>>> quote by one of us? >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Why do you tell your client that you are using Web Catalog then? You >>>> are letting you client know to much information. I never tell me >>>> clients that I am using web catalog I just tell them that I have >>>> developed a database solution for them. If you let a customer go >>>> away to Smith Micro then you do not know how to market your business. >>>> No offense. >>>> >>>> Jeff Logan >>> >>> Jay Van Vark *********************************** >>> Smith Micro, Internet Solutions Div | eCommerce (WebCatalog) >>> 16855 West Bernardo Drive | Software & Site Development >>> Suite 380 | http://www.smithmicro.com/isd >>> San Diego, CA 92127 | ------------------------- >>> 858.675.1106 | Formerly, Pacific Coast Software >>> 858.675.0372 (fax) *********************************** >>> >>> NASDQ: SMSI >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------- >>> Brought to you by CommuniGate Pro - The Buzz Word Compliant >> Messaging Server. >>> To end your Mail problems go to . >>> >>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>> the mailing list . >>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >>> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------- >> Brought to you by CommuniGate Pro - The Buzz Word Compliant Messaging Server. >> To end your Mail problems go to . >> >> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >> the mailing list . >> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >> > > Jay Van Vark *********************************** > Smith Micro, Internet Solutions Div | eCommerce (WebCatalog) > 16855 West Bernardo Drive | Software & Site Development > Suite 380 | http://www.smithmicro.com/isd > San Diego, CA 92127 | ------------------------- > 858.675.1106 | Formerly, Pacific Coast Software > 858.675.0372 (fax) *********************************** > > NASDQ: SMSI > > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > Brought to you by CommuniGate Pro - The Buzz Word Compliant Messaging Server. > To end your Mail problems go to . > > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to > ------------------------------------------------------------- Brought to you by CommuniGate Pro - The Buzz Word Compliant Messaging Server. 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Jay, Great to hear this! We are curious about the upgrade direction of WebCatalog, as you must know. Please disclose as much as your new public company policies will allow! ;) -- Mike Davis, President Network 13, Inc. http://www.network13.net/ LocalsOnline.com, Inc. http://www.localsonline.com/ Voice Of The Internet, Inc. http://www.voiceoftheinternet.com/ ICQ: 6572635If I had more time, I would have written less. - Mark Twain> From: Jay Van Vark > Reply-To: (WebCatalog Talk) > Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 12:48:02 -0800 > To: (WebCatalog Talk) > Subject: Re: Smith Micro - no competition > > I hear your 2cents -- Please don't think that I have dropped off... I > am playing catch up with everything that I want to get done and yes I > do often focus and not participate as much as I should on the list... > > We are still getting the kinks out to get the list and support of our > product the appropriate level... > > On the silence..... My bad -- we are in a public company now and > there are things of course that we can't say... > > We are training more support staff, we are working on 4.0 --- very > very aggressively! I can't emphasize enough how much you will all > love 4.0... We have heard everything and working very very hard on > it... > > I don't want the negative attitude to stay of course... I have to > grow the market in the meantime - which means that I have a lot of > catch up marketing to do -- rebranding under Smith Micro Software and > getting the pipeline filled for media and printed and tradeshows > etc... We are about to finish the catch up and fine tune the plan for > moving forward... > > Thanks for the open dialog! > > >> Jay, >> If what you want is to get the word out about Webcatalog, that's great. >> And though your affiliate commission is as low as they come, I was quick to >> sign up because I see the greater good of name and product recognition. >> But by dropping all support off of this list, and chiming in from time to >> time with pat answers that basically ignore the major issues, it's likely >> that the word that will get out is going to be a negative one. Morale is >> low on this list. So, while you make headway with your own marketing >> efforts, you lose it with the developers who've been with you from the >> beginning. Those developers talk to a lot of companies, and many companies >> rely on them for direction. I don't expect Grant to take time to answer >> questions as he did in the past. But I have to wonder if you and John are >> the only SM eyes that look at this list anymore. Instead of the silence, >> how about a bit of good old open conversation, like in the old days. If we >> knew that John Jakovich was training some new tech support people, or you >> and Grant have been working on organizing the development team for version >> 4, the silence would be understandable. As it is, though, no one knows what >> you guys are up to. And, it's going to be counter productive to your >> greater marketing efforts if it continues this way. >> >> My 2¢ >> -- >> Mike Davis, President >> Network 13, Inc. http://www.network13.net/ >> LocalsOnline.com, Inc. http://www.localsonline.com/ >> Voice Of The Internet, Inc. http://www.voiceoftheinternet.com/ >> ICQ: 6572635 >> >> If I had more time, I would have written less. - Mark Twain >> >>> From: Jay Van Vark >>> Reply-To: (WebCatalog Talk) >>> Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 10:35:46 -0800 >>> To: (WebCatalog Talk) >>> Subject: Re: Smith Micro - no competition >>> >>> None taken... >>> >>> I am glad that you view it as such a strong competitive advantage >>> that you don't want your clients to know your tools... >>> >>> What I want to make sure is that those clients that dictate which >>> tool to use know that WebCatalog is the best tool around and that >>> lots of people are using it... We intend to be very public about the >>> fact that we use WebCatalog for very high profile sites and very >>> strong return on investment...! >>> >>> >>>>>> Just to make sure the record is straight -- we are not diverting >>>>>> resources. This effort is a self running effort. Again -- we are >>>>>> looking for ways to increase the exposure both in sales, market >>>>>> presence and use.... >>>>> >>>>> SMS is just one more competitor. But how do you know you will >> not infringe >>>>> upon anybody's business? >>>>> >>>>> Like the one day when somebody's client called SMS for some >> information on >>>>> WC and got a better quote for the development of their web site? >>>>> >>>>> How do you know that somebody calling you has not already been >> submitted a >>>>> quote by one of us? >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Why do you tell your client that you are using Web Catalog then? You >>>> are letting you client know to much information. I never tell me >>>> clients that I am using web catalog I just tell them that I have >>>> developed a database solution for them. If you let a customer go >>>> away to Smith Micro then you do not know how to market your business. >>>> No offense. >>>> >>>> Jeff Logan >>> >>> Jay Van Vark *********************************** >>> Smith Micro, Internet Solutions Div | eCommerce (WebCatalog) >>> 16855 West Bernardo Drive | Software & Site Development >>> Suite 380 | http://www.smithmicro.com/isd >>> San Diego, CA 92127 | ------------------------- >>> 858.675.1106 | Formerly, Pacific Coast Software >>> 858.675.0372 (fax) *********************************** >>> >>> NASDQ: SMSI >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------- >>> Brought to you by CommuniGate Pro - The Buzz Word Compliant >> Messaging Server. >>> To end your Mail problems go to . >>> >>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>> the mailing list . >>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >>> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------- >> Brought to you by CommuniGate Pro - The Buzz Word Compliant Messaging Server. >> To end your Mail problems go to . >> >> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >> the mailing list . >> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >> > > Jay Van Vark *********************************** > Smith Micro, Internet Solutions Div | eCommerce (WebCatalog) > 16855 West Bernardo Drive | Software & Site Development > Suite 380 | http://www.smithmicro.com/isd > San Diego, CA 92127 | ------------------------- > 858.675.1106 | Formerly, Pacific Coast Software > 858.675.0372 (fax) *********************************** > > NASDQ: SMSI > > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > Brought to you by CommuniGate Pro - The Buzz Word Compliant Messaging Server. > To end your Mail problems go to . > > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to > ------------------------------------------------------------- Brought to you by CommuniGate Pro - The Buzz Word Compliant Messaging Server. 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