Re: WebDNA Book?
This WebDNA talk-list message is from 2003
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texte = wrox does a series of books called programmer to programmer - pretty good books.http://www.wrox.com/- CharlesOn Thursday, February 6, 2003, at 05:49 PM, Dan Strong wrote:> What is 'wrox'? > -Dan > > On Thu, 6 Feb 2003 17:46:34 > Charles Kline
wrote: >> or maybe wrox? i would be willing to work on this project if we got >> some funding. >> >> - ck >> >> On Thursday, February 6, 2003, at 05:15 PM, Dan Strong wrote: >> >>> Brian, >>> >>> Hmmmm.... not happy to hear you're having such a hard time with it. >>> While I wholeheartedly agree that at the current time, a 'WebDNA for >>> Dummies' book might not find a large enough audience to feed the >>> author(s), my thoughts were more along the lines of a 'build it and >>> they will come' approach, hopefully with the blessing/funding of SM >>> and/or the '...for Dummies' folks (IDG Books Worldwide?). >>> >>> A bona-fide 'how-to' book on WebDNA (particularly one that could >>> share in the popularity and distribution channels of an existing >>> brand (i.e. '...for Dummies')) would absolutely drive consumer >>> interest in the product by the simple fact that it exists. If I >>> wasn't familiar with WebDNA and I was wandering through the Dummies >>> section in Borders Books (like I do from time to time -- I own >>> Javascript and DOS for Dummies and I use them both all the time.. >>> and I can remember picking up VRML for Dummies back in 1998...) and >>> I saw WebDNA for Dummies -- A Reference for the Rest of Us! -- The >>> Fun and Easy Way to Create Attractive, Effective Web Applications >>> ... or whatever... I would DEFINITELY pick it up, and most likely >>> buy it, if I was interested in webdev (which I am). Maybe even >>> include a CD with the Developer Edition installers for each platform >>> as well as the Onbline Command Reference (betadoc), and links to >>> SM's website, etc. etc. >>> >>> But of course, maybe SM isn't interested in making more $$ ;) Why >>> don't I write it? Maybe I will, maybe I will..... but I definitely >>> couldn't do it alone, as I feel my current WebDNA skill level is >>> 'Advanced Intermediate' (some might beg to differ...). I would need >>> a WebDNA knowledgeable editor... >>> >>> Anyway, this is my $0.02.... enough daydreaming for me... I took a >>> look at the Forbes List of the Richest People in America this >>> morning and noticed that my name wasn't on it -- I'd better get back >>> to work. ;) >>> >>> -Dan >>> ------------------------------------------------------------ >>> http://www.StrongGraphicDesign.com >>> (208) 319-0137 | Toll-free p/f 877-561-1656 >>> ------------------------------------------------------------ >>> >>> >>> >>> On Thu, 6 Feb 2003 15:59:10 >>> Brian B. Burton wrote: >>>> Actually, I think you'd be wrong :( >>>> >>>> I have written part of a book, but the response to date has been >>>> underwhelming. I guess it's kind of like being a shareware author, >>>> everybody uses shareware. 2-5% of people pay for shareware. >>>> >>>> The time investment in writing in a clear and concise manner, along >>>> with the experience needed to write such a guide makes to limited >>>> to a few people in this group. I'm not saying that to be arrogant, >>>> but it is an accurate and true statement. On top of that, you have >>>> to figure out how many copies you can sell to recoup your >>>> investment of time. I estimate I could sell less then 100 copies. >>>> Some people think they know everything, some people wouldn't spend >>>> the money (I estimate it would have to be about $99 for a PDF to >>>> even get close to break even vs. selling the same time being a >>>> programmer), and some people will share, thus depriving yours truly >>>> of funds needed to eat lunch, and I've already done the starving >>>> artist part of my life... >>>> >>>> But for all of that pessimism, I am still plodding along on my >>>> book, adding and incrementing it. I'm up to about twice the content >>>> and am just beginning the e-commerce functionality info now. I just >>>> don't have the new content online anywhere at this time. >>>> >>>> >>>> If you'd like to see what is public, please visit: http:// >>>> webdna.burtons.com >>>> >>>> >>>> Brian B. Burton >>>> Burton Logistics >>>> 973-263-3036 973-296-6862 (cell) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thursday, February 6, 2003, at 01:28 PM, Dan Strong wrote: >>>> >>>>> Agreed. a 'WebDNA for Dummies' book, might make somebody rich... >>>>> Otherwise, Marc, yes, this list and it's archive are excellent >>>>> resources. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, 6 Feb 2003 10:06:25 -0800 >>>>> Sales wrote: >>>>>> Are there any books out there for learning WebDNA? I'm sorry, >>>>>> but I've found the documentation sorely lacking for beginners, >>>>>> especially with the new XML styled syntax. I did a search on >>>>>> Amazon, but found nothing. >>>>>> >>>>>> If there aren't any books available, how have others learned this >>>>>> language? Trial and error? The documentation? This list? >>>>>> >>>>>> I realize this list is an excellent resource, but it would be >>>>>> nice to have a good tutorial in hand. > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to > > Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ > ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/
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wrox does a series of books called programmer to programmer - pretty good books.http://www.wrox.com/- CharlesOn Thursday, February 6, 2003, at 05:49 PM, Dan Strong wrote:> What is 'wrox'? > -Dan > > On Thu, 6 Feb 2003 17:46:34 > Charles Kline wrote: >> or maybe wrox? i would be willing to work on this project if we got >> some funding. >> >> - ck >> >> On Thursday, February 6, 2003, at 05:15 PM, Dan Strong wrote: >> >>> Brian, >>> >>> Hmmmm.... not happy to hear you're having such a hard time with it. >>> While I wholeheartedly agree that at the current time, a 'WebDNA for >>> Dummies' book might not find a large enough audience to feed the >>> author(s), my thoughts were more along the lines of a 'build it and >>> they will come' approach, hopefully with the blessing/funding of SM >>> and/or the '...for Dummies' folks (IDG Books Worldwide?). >>> >>> A bona-fide 'how-to' book on WebDNA (particularly one that could >>> share in the popularity and distribution channels of an existing >>> brand (i.e. '...for Dummies')) would absolutely drive consumer >>> interest in the product by the simple fact that it exists. If I >>> wasn't familiar with WebDNA and I was wandering through the Dummies >>> section in Borders Books (like I do from time to time -- I own >>> Javascript and DOS for Dummies and I use them both all the time.. >>> and I can remember picking up VRML for Dummies back in 1998...) and >>> I saw WebDNA for Dummies -- A Reference for the Rest of Us! -- The >>> Fun and Easy Way to Create Attractive, Effective Web Applications >>> ... or whatever... I would DEFINITELY pick it up, and most likely >>> buy it, if I was interested in webdev (which I am). Maybe even >>> include a CD with the Developer Edition installers for each platform >>> as well as the Onbline Command Reference (betadoc), and links to >>> SM's website, etc. etc. >>> >>> But of course, maybe SM isn't interested in making more $$ ;) Why >>> don't I write it? Maybe I will, maybe I will..... but I definitely >>> couldn't do it alone, as I feel my current WebDNA skill level is >>> 'Advanced Intermediate' (some might beg to differ...). I would need >>> a WebDNA knowledgeable editor... >>> >>> Anyway, this is my $0.02.... enough daydreaming for me... I took a >>> look at the Forbes List of the Richest People in America this >>> morning and noticed that my name wasn't on it -- I'd better get back >>> to work. ;) >>> >>> -Dan >>> ------------------------------------------------------------ >>> http://www.StrongGraphicDesign.com >>> (208) 319-0137 | Toll-free p/f 877-561-1656 >>> ------------------------------------------------------------ >>> >>> >>> >>> On Thu, 6 Feb 2003 15:59:10 >>> Brian B. Burton wrote: >>>> Actually, I think you'd be wrong :( >>>> >>>> I have written part of a book, but the response to date has been >>>> underwhelming. I guess it's kind of like being a shareware author, >>>> everybody uses shareware. 2-5% of people pay for shareware. >>>> >>>> The time investment in writing in a clear and concise manner, along >>>> with the experience needed to write such a guide makes to limited >>>> to a few people in this group. I'm not saying that to be arrogant, >>>> but it is an accurate and true statement. On top of that, you have >>>> to figure out how many copies you can sell to recoup your >>>> investment of time. I estimate I could sell less then 100 copies. >>>> Some people think they know everything, some people wouldn't spend >>>> the money (I estimate it would have to be about $99 for a PDF to >>>> even get close to break even vs. selling the same time being a >>>> programmer), and some people will share, thus depriving yours truly >>>> of funds needed to eat lunch, and I've already done the starving >>>> artist part of my life... >>>> >>>> But for all of that pessimism, I am still plodding along on my >>>> book, adding and incrementing it. I'm up to about twice the content >>>> and am just beginning the e-commerce functionality info now. I just >>>> don't have the new content online anywhere at this time. >>>> >>>> >>>> If you'd like to see what is public, please visit: http:// >>>> webdna.burtons.com >>>> >>>> >>>> Brian B. Burton >>>> Burton Logistics >>>> 973-263-3036 973-296-6862 (cell) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thursday, February 6, 2003, at 01:28 PM, Dan Strong wrote: >>>> >>>>> Agreed. a 'WebDNA for Dummies' book, might make somebody rich... >>>>> Otherwise, Marc, yes, this list and it's archive are excellent >>>>> resources. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, 6 Feb 2003 10:06:25 -0800 >>>>> Sales wrote: >>>>>> Are there any books out there for learning WebDNA? I'm sorry, >>>>>> but I've found the documentation sorely lacking for beginners, >>>>>> especially with the new XML styled syntax. I did a search on >>>>>> Amazon, but found nothing. >>>>>> >>>>>> If there aren't any books available, how have others learned this >>>>>> language? Trial and error? The documentation? This list? >>>>>> >>>>>> I realize this list is an excellent resource, but it would be >>>>>> nice to have a good tutorial in hand. > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to > > Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ > ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/
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