Re: Two options to consider

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2008


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texte = This list has exploded over the last few days, even saw a message from Grant. WOW!!! Personally, I like option # 1. Realistically WebDNA can't compete financially against the open source projects and people who want to pay for a web language buy .asp or cold fusion (OK, .asp is free, if you give 1/2 your income in licensing fees to MS every year - whatever) ANYWAY... but so far SM seems to be abandoning WebDNA, and yet holding on to it because they can. Definitely a crummy situation. I personally have switched to Ruby on Rails. And at this point although I still LOVE the simplicity of WebDNA, when I have to maintain an existing project on it, I find i miss modern things like frameworks, MVC, simpler integration with SQL, etc... As much as it pains me to say this (and trust me, it does, I know webdna better then most) perhaps by SM's inactions it forces us to move on to more modern programming environments... *sigh* Brian B. Burton On Apr 16, 2008, at 7:15 PM, Diane Blackmore (Cohesion) wrote: > Hi > > Since everyone's experiencing so much fun with WebDNA at the moment, > and > we're all on the same page with that we love WebDNA but not > SmithMicro for > how they've treated us and their software product, what does > everyone think > about either of the following options; > > 1. Presenting SM with a collective option to sell WebDNA (or even > better, > make open source). If we all have sufficient interest, it may be > possible to > get them to loosen their grip on their IP, or enter into some sort > of JV. > "If you don't ask, you don't get". OR; > 2. Assembling a class action law suit against SM for fraudulently > mis-representing their intentions with WebDNA to mislead customers > (us) into > thinking that our development platform had a future, thereby > promoting sales > of a product that they knew to be defunct. > > Any takers on either option?? I'll volunteer to head up either > effort if I > can be assured of some support - If no-one is keen, my war would be > in vain > if I won it just to be the last one on the planet using it. > > Let me know people....... > > Thanks, > ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ Associated Messages, from the most recent to the oldest:

    
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This list has exploded over the last few days, even saw a message from Grant. WOW!!! Personally, I like option # 1. Realistically WebDNA can't compete financially against the open source projects and people who want to pay for a web language buy .asp or cold fusion (OK, .asp is free, if you give 1/2 your income in licensing fees to MS every year - whatever) ANYWAY... but so far SM seems to be abandoning WebDNA, and yet holding on to it because they can. Definitely a crummy situation. I personally have switched to Ruby on Rails. And at this point although I still LOVE the simplicity of WebDNA, when I have to maintain an existing project on it, I find i miss modern things like frameworks, MVC, simpler integration with SQL, etc... As much as it pains me to say this (and trust me, it does, I know webdna better then most) perhaps by SM's inactions it forces us to move on to more modern programming environments... *sigh* Brian B. Burton On Apr 16, 2008, at 7:15 PM, Diane Blackmore (Cohesion) wrote: > Hi > > Since everyone's experiencing so much fun with WebDNA at the moment, > and > we're all on the same page with that we love WebDNA but not > SmithMicro for > how they've treated us and their software product, what does > everyone think > about either of the following options; > > 1. Presenting SM with a collective option to sell WebDNA (or even > better, > make open source). If we all have sufficient interest, it may be > possible to > get them to loosen their grip on their IP, or enter into some sort > of JV. > "If you don't ask, you don't get". OR; > 2. Assembling a class action law suit against SM for fraudulently > mis-representing their intentions with WebDNA to mislead customers > (us) into > thinking that our development platform had a future, thereby > promoting sales > of a product that they knew to be defunct. > > Any takers on either option?? I'll volunteer to head up either > effort if I > can be assured of some support - If no-one is keen, my war would be > in vain > if I won it just to be the last one on the planet using it. > > Let me know people....... > > Thanks, > ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ "Brian B. Burton"

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