Re: Two options to consider
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texte = I'd opt for option 2 to being about 1. Dean Smith On Apr 16, 2008, at 8:22 PM, Rob wrote: > Makes sense.... In for opt 2... > > Rob.. > > On 16-Apr-08, at 9:04 PM, Dan Strong wrote: > >> I say we try option #2 first. My wife works in a law firm and I =20 >> have friends who are lawyers, one of whom is an IP attorney in SM's =20= >> backyard (San Diego). Perhaps they'd be willing to settle for some =20= >> version of option #1 after looking down the barrel of a class-=20 >> action. I'm really not happy with these ass-clowns at the moment. =20 >> Either way, we should move this dicussion off-list, IMO, if we hope =20= >> to have any kind of true leverage. I'd be willing to host a list (I =20= >> use Communigate as well), as I'm sure others would, but allow me to =20= >> be the first to offer. >> -Dan >> >> >> On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 12:15:58 +1200 >> "Diane Blackmore (Cohesion)"
wrote: >>> Hi >>> Since everyone's experiencing so much fun with WebDNA at the =20 >>> moment, and >>> we're all on the same page with that we love WebDNA but not =20 >>> SmithMicro for >>> how they've treated us and their software product, what does =20 >>> everyone think >>> about either of the following options; >>> 1. Presenting SM with a collective option to sell WebDNA (or even =20= >>> better, >>> make open source). If we all have sufficient interest, it may be =20 >>> possible to >>> get them to loosen their grip on their IP, or enter into some sort =20= >>> of JV. >>> "If you don't ask, you don't get". OR; >>> 2. Assembling a class action law suit against SM for fraudulently >>> mis-representing their intentions with WebDNA to mislead customers =20= >>> (us) into >>> thinking that our development platform had a future, thereby =20 >>> promoting sales >>> of a product that they knew to be defunct. >>> Any takers on either option?? I'll volunteer to head up either =20 >>> effort if I >>> can be assured of some support - If no-one is keen, my war would =20 >>> be in vain >>> if I won it just to be the last one on the planet using it. >>> Let me know people....... >>> Thanks, >>> on 15/4/08 5:54 PM, Stuart Tremain at webdna@idfk.com.au wrote: >>>> Thanks Christer :) >>>> Regards >>>> Stuart Tremain >>>> IDFK Web Developments >>>> AUSTRALIA >>>> webdna@idfk.com.au >>>> On 15/04/2008, at 3:35 PM, Christer Olsson wrote: >>>>> It's all in the RFC: >>>>> >>>>> Basically you should just have to add "&secure=3D" to your = SETCOOKIE >>>>> tag, but WebDNA doesn't seem to add the attribute, so you have to >>>>> use a simple hack instead: add the text "; to your value =20 >>>>> parameter, >>>>> like >>>>> [SETCOOKIE name=3DmySecureCookie2&value=3DHello!; = secure&domain=3Dwww.mydomain.com >>>>> ] >>>>> Best, >>>>> Christer >>>>> ************************************************************* >>>>> Christer Olsson PO Box 9160 Phone +46 40 25 85 85 >>>>> Ljusa Id=E9er AB SE-200 39 Malmo Fax +46 40 25 85 89 >>>>> Kantyxegatan 5 Sweden http://www.ljusaideer.se >>>>> 15 apr 2008 kl. 01.00 skrev Stuart Tremain: >>>>>> Any ideas on the cookies ???? >>>>>> Regards >>>>>> Stuart Tremain >>>>>> IDFK Web Developments >>>>>> AUSTRALIA >>>>>> webdna@idfk.com.au >>>>>> On 12/04/2008, at 7:24 AM, Stuart Tremain wrote: >>>>>>> I have had a hacker safe report about a site that returns a >>>>>>> vulnerability: >>>>>>> "Missing Secure Attribute in an Encrypted Session (SSL) Cookie" >>>>>>> Is there a secure switch in the WebDNA [SetCookie] ? >>>>>>> Or would I just put :443 on the end of the domain ? >>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>> Stuart Tremain >>>>>>> IDFK Web Developments >>>>>>> AUSTRALIA >>>>>>> webdna@idfk.com.au >>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>>>>>> the mailing list . >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>>>>> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >>>>>>> >>>>>> Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ >>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>>>>> the mailing list . >>>>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>>>> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >>>>>> >>>>> Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ >>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>>>> the mailing list . >>>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>>> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >>>>> >>>> Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>>> the mailing list . >>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >>>> >>>> Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ >>> ------------------------------------------------------------- >>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>> the mailing list . >>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to = >> > >>> Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------- >> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >> the mailing list . >> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to = > > >> Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ > > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to = > > Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . 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I'd opt for option 2 to being about 1. Dean Smith On Apr 16, 2008, at 8:22 PM, Rob wrote: > Makes sense.... In for opt 2... > > Rob.. > > On 16-Apr-08, at 9:04 PM, Dan Strong wrote: > >> I say we try option #2 first. My wife works in a law firm and I =20 >> have friends who are lawyers, one of whom is an IP attorney in SM's =20= >> backyard (San Diego). Perhaps they'd be willing to settle for some =20= >> version of option #1 after looking down the barrel of a class-=20 >> action. I'm really not happy with these ass-clowns at the moment. =20 >> Either way, we should move this dicussion off-list, IMO, if we hope =20= >> to have any kind of true leverage. I'd be willing to host a list (I =20= >> use Communigate as well), as I'm sure others would, but allow me to =20= >> be the first to offer. >> -Dan >> >> >> On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 12:15:58 +1200 >> "Diane Blackmore (Cohesion)" wrote: >>> Hi >>> Since everyone's experiencing so much fun with WebDNA at the =20 >>> moment, and >>> we're all on the same page with that we love WebDNA but not =20 >>> SmithMicro for >>> how they've treated us and their software product, what does =20 >>> everyone think >>> about either of the following options; >>> 1. Presenting SM with a collective option to sell WebDNA (or even =20= >>> better, >>> make open source). If we all have sufficient interest, it may be =20 >>> possible to >>> get them to loosen their grip on their IP, or enter into some sort =20= >>> of JV. >>> "If you don't ask, you don't get". OR; >>> 2. Assembling a class action law suit against SM for fraudulently >>> mis-representing their intentions with WebDNA to mislead customers =20= >>> (us) into >>> thinking that our development platform had a future, thereby =20 >>> promoting sales >>> of a product that they knew to be defunct. >>> Any takers on either option?? I'll volunteer to head up either =20 >>> effort if I >>> can be assured of some support - If no-one is keen, my war would =20 >>> be in vain >>> if I won it just to be the last one on the planet using it. >>> Let me know people....... >>> Thanks, >>> on 15/4/08 5:54 PM, Stuart Tremain at webdna@idfk.com.au wrote: >>>> Thanks Christer :) >>>> Regards >>>> Stuart Tremain >>>> IDFK Web Developments >>>> AUSTRALIA >>>> webdna@idfk.com.au >>>> On 15/04/2008, at 3:35 PM, Christer Olsson wrote: >>>>> It's all in the RFC: >>>>> >>>>> Basically you should just have to add "&secure=3D" to your = SETCOOKIE >>>>> tag, but WebDNA doesn't seem to add the attribute, so you have to >>>>> use a simple hack instead: add the text "; to your value =20 >>>>> parameter, >>>>> like >>>>> [SETCOOKIE name=3DmySecureCookie2&value=3DHello!; = secure&domain=3Dwww.mydomain.com >>>>> ] >>>>> Best, >>>>> Christer >>>>> ************************************************************* >>>>> Christer Olsson PO Box 9160 Phone +46 40 25 85 85 >>>>> Ljusa Id=E9er AB SE-200 39 Malmo Fax +46 40 25 85 89 >>>>> Kantyxegatan 5 Sweden http://www.ljusaideer.se >>>>> 15 apr 2008 kl. 01.00 skrev Stuart Tremain: >>>>>> Any ideas on the cookies ???? >>>>>> Regards >>>>>> Stuart Tremain >>>>>> IDFK Web Developments >>>>>> AUSTRALIA >>>>>> webdna@idfk.com.au >>>>>> On 12/04/2008, at 7:24 AM, Stuart Tremain wrote: >>>>>>> I have had a hacker safe report about a site that returns a >>>>>>> vulnerability: >>>>>>> "Missing Secure Attribute in an Encrypted Session (SSL) Cookie" >>>>>>> Is there a secure switch in the WebDNA [SetCookie] ? >>>>>>> Or would I just put :443 on the end of the domain ? >>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>> Stuart Tremain >>>>>>> IDFK Web Developments >>>>>>> AUSTRALIA >>>>>>> webdna@idfk.com.au >>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>>>>>> the mailing list . >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>>>>> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >>>>>>> >>>>>> Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ >>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>>>>> the mailing list . >>>>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>>>> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >>>>>> >>>>> Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ >>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>>>> the mailing list . >>>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>>> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >>>>> >>>> Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>>> the mailing list . >>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >>>> >>>> Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ >>> ------------------------------------------------------------- >>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>> the mailing list . >>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to = >> > >>> Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------- >> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >> the mailing list . >> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to = > > >> Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ > > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to = > > Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . 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