Re: [WebDNA] [BULK] which of these tags exist in 7.0
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It keeps the original formatting.
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texte = I wonder how many people, who do not read this list, would also like to =know about such new (proposed) code to help port their legacy sites to =v.7...------------Govinda> Ken,>=20> I have a question to pose to you with the whole community listening:>=20> Would you be willing to build this system, speculatively, on your own =time, with the purpose of selling and supporting it, or, would you be =willing to come up with a cost estimate and then let the list team up =and pay you for it?>=20> If, for instance you think it will cost you, say, $10,000 of your =time, if 100 people pitched in $100 each then we'd have a commerce app. =You can count on your first $100 from me personally and I'm sure WSC can =be convinced to pitch in as well.>=20> There are other modules like this that could be useful, and this is =the heart of our idea of a WebDNA "app store".>=20> I would love to hear some thoughts on this.> -Dan>=20> On 3/26/2011 2:29 PM, Kenneth Grome wrote:>>> I was under the impression that several of the gurus>>> hanging out in this forum had already created their own>>> e-commerce platforms without using the old WebCatalog>>> code.>> I created a generic system about 12-15 years ago. It ran>> on Typhoon (as well as WebCatalog). It was designed to turn>> Typhoon into an eCommerce system. All the commerce>> functions were contained in external templates.>>=20>> One thing I learned from this exercise is that my solution>> ran FASTER than WebCatalog's internal commerce code!>>=20>> Others have created similar systems, but I think they>> chose to customize their systems for the stores they were>> building for their clients, rather than building a generic>> system that everyone could start with.>>=20>>=20>>> If WebDNA is your love, like it is mine, then this is the>>> perfect opportunity to whip up something that will be>>> much better than the WebCatalog features, and a heck of>>> a lot more user friendly too.>> This is my dream -- but not to make it backwards compatible>> with the old file-based cart system. Instead I would prefer>> to build something new from scratch ... and make it even>> better than the system I created years ago.>>=20>> My current concept is a system that would be entirely based>> on templates, includes and database files, and easily>> customized with drop-in modules. Anyone can build the>> modules. We can even create a shared library of modules if>> we like.>>=20>> This would be a system for the FUTURE. It would do nothing>> to remain backwards compatible with any existing WebDNA>> commerce sites.>>=20>> If backwards compatibility is important to certain users,>> they should just stick with v6 or upgrade to the current v7>> which still contains the old built-in commerce code.>>=20>> Or perhaps there is one more possibly:>>=20>> Ask WSC to leave the old built-in commerce code inside>> WebDNA, just like it currently exists in v7 -- provided they>> never have to modify it, support it, or even think about it>> any more.>>=20>> This might let old users upgrade to v7and beyond without the>> need to rebuild existing v6 sites. And at the same time it>> would relieve WSC of the burden of maintaining this part of>> WebDNA's built-in code.>>=20>> Note that I have no idea whether or not this is possible.>> It's just a thought ... but if it is possible (and>> reasonable and practical for WSC) then maybe it will satisfy>> all WebDNA users.>>=20>> Sincerely,>> Kenneth Grome
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I wonder how many people, who do not read this list, would also like to =know about such new (proposed) code to help port their legacy sites to =v.7...------------Govinda> Ken,>=20> I have a question to pose to you with the whole community listening:>=20> Would you be willing to build this system, speculatively, on your own =time, with the purpose of selling and supporting it, or, would you be =willing to come up with a cost estimate and then let the list team up =and pay you for it?>=20> If, for instance you think it will cost you, say, $10,000 of your =time, if 100 people pitched in $100 each then we'd have a commerce app. =You can count on your first $100 from me personally and I'm sure WSC can =be convinced to pitch in as well.>=20> There are other modules like this that could be useful, and this is =the heart of our idea of a WebDNA "app store".>=20> I would love to hear some thoughts on this.> -Dan>=20> On 3/26/2011 2:29 PM, Kenneth Grome wrote:>>> I was under the impression that several of the gurus>>> hanging out in this forum had already created their own>>> e-commerce platforms without using the old WebCatalog>>> code.>> I created a generic system about 12-15 years ago. It ran>> on Typhoon (as well as WebCatalog). It was designed to turn>> Typhoon into an eCommerce system. All the commerce>> functions were contained in external templates.>>=20>> One thing I learned from this exercise is that my solution>> ran FASTER than WebCatalog's internal commerce code!>>=20>> Others have created similar systems, but I think they>> chose to customize their systems for the stores they were>> building for their clients, rather than building a generic>> system that everyone could start with.>>=20>>=20>>> If WebDNA is your love, like it is mine, then this is the>>> perfect opportunity to whip up something that will be>>> much better than the WebCatalog features, and a heck of>>> a lot more user friendly too.>> This is my dream -- but not to make it backwards compatible>> with the old file-based cart system. Instead I would prefer>> to build something new from scratch ... and make it even>> better than the system I created years ago.>>=20>> My current concept is a system that would be entirely based>> on templates, includes and database files, and easily>> customized with drop-in modules. Anyone can build the>> modules. We can even create a shared library of modules if>> we like.>>=20>> This would be a system for the FUTURE. It would do nothing>> to remain backwards compatible with any existing WebDNA>> commerce sites.>>=20>> If backwards compatibility is important to certain users,>> they should just stick with v6 or upgrade to the current v7>> which still contains the old built-in commerce code.>>=20>> Or perhaps there is one more possibly:>>=20>> Ask WSC to leave the old built-in commerce code inside>> WebDNA, just like it currently exists in v7 -- provided they>> never have to modify it, support it, or even think about it>> any more.>>=20>> This might let old users upgrade to v7and beyond without the>> need to rebuild existing v6 sites. And at the same time it>> would relieve WSC of the burden of maintaining this part of>> WebDNA's built-in code.>>=20>> Note that I have no idea whether or not this is possible.>> It's just a thought ... but if it is possible (and>> reasonable and practical for WSC) then maybe it will satisfy>> all WebDNA users.>>=20>> Sincerely,>> Kenneth Grome
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