Re: World Address Info
This WebDNA talk-list message is from 2003
It keeps the original formatting.
numero = 52315
interpreted = N
texte = In Australia there is no STANDARD form for mailing purposes, technically, you only need the street address plus the postcode. That is the beauty of postcodes, it tells you which postal area within the country. Strangely I have never had any mail addressed to anywhere in the world returned to me because I have not addressed it as per that country's convention ........ I agree with you that the Text Area approach is almost useless, certainly for record keeping and data analysis. BTW 2089 provides views such as these: http://decourcaydesign.com/officeview On Tuesday, August 19, 2003, at 01:29 AM, Velma Kahn wrote: > At 07:03 PM 8/17/2003, you wrote: >> What makes you think that USA & Canada are the only countries in the >> world that use States and Postcode in their mailing systems? > > I've looked at a lot of addresses, and most other countries use a > slightly different format. That's not to say that there aren't other > countries that use an extremely similar format. What I have tried to > avoid is coercing non-U.S. addresses into a U.S. format, which I've > seen done, and seems offensive to me. You haven't put your Australian > state into the address below, so I can't see the standard format. > There was a time when I was quite familiar with Australian address > formats, but I have forgotten. But don't Australian addresses have the > post code before the state, like here's one: "Glebe 2037 NSW"? If I > use my U.S. address format for Australian addresses, they will always > get printed wrong: "Glebe NSW 2037". The same holds for English > addresses. I find this unacceptable. Thus I have non-U.S./non-Canadian > addressees put their correct local format in the city line. > > But this is not what I would recommend for an Australian based site or > piece of software, of course. My system was designed for software > which has mostly U.S. addresses. And it's designed to enable maximum > validation on U.S. and Canadian addresses without coercing > non-U.S./non-Canadian addresses to an incorrect format. I validate > addresses and I do automated list cleanup, automated National Change > of Address on U.S. addresses, AVS on credit cards, etc.--so the > "textarea" approach would not be suitable for my purposes. > > Velma > > > > > > >> On Sunday, August 17, 2003, at 05:52 AM, Velma Kahn wrote: >> >>> StateProv and ZipPostCode are not used for outside of the US and >>> Canada (and may be made unavailable for addresses outside of the US >>> and Canada). >> Regards >> >> Stuart Tremain >> idfk web developments >> 114a/40 yeo street neutral bay 2089 australia >> t +612 9908 2134 >> f +612 9908 4837 >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------- >> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >> the mailing list
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In Australia there is no STANDARD form for mailing purposes, technically, you only need the street address plus the postcode. That is the beauty of postcodes, it tells you which postal area within the country. Strangely I have never had any mail addressed to anywhere in the world returned to me because I have not addressed it as per that country's convention ........ I agree with you that the Text Area approach is almost useless, certainly for record keeping and data analysis. BTW 2089 provides views such as these: http://decourcaydesign.com/officeview On Tuesday, August 19, 2003, at 01:29 AM, Velma Kahn wrote: > At 07:03 PM 8/17/2003, you wrote: >> What makes you think that USA & Canada are the only countries in the >> world that use States and Postcode in their mailing systems? > > I've looked at a lot of addresses, and most other countries use a > slightly different format. That's not to say that there aren't other > countries that use an extremely similar format. What I have tried to > avoid is coercing non-U.S. addresses into a U.S. format, which I've > seen done, and seems offensive to me. You haven't put your Australian > state into the address below, so I can't see the standard format. > There was a time when I was quite familiar with Australian address > formats, but I have forgotten. But don't Australian addresses have the > post code before the state, like here's one: "Glebe 2037 NSW"? If I > use my U.S. address format for Australian addresses, they will always > get printed wrong: "Glebe NSW 2037". The same holds for English > addresses. I find this unacceptable. Thus I have non-U.S./non-Canadian > addressees put their correct local format in the city line. > > But this is not what I would recommend for an Australian based site or > piece of software, of course. My system was designed for software > which has mostly U.S. addresses. And it's designed to enable maximum > validation on U.S. and Canadian addresses without coercing > non-U.S./non-Canadian addresses to an incorrect format. I validate > addresses and I do automated list cleanup, automated National Change > of Address on U.S. addresses, AVS on credit cards, etc.--so the > "textarea" approach would not be suitable for my purposes. > > Velma > > > > > > >> On Sunday, August 17, 2003, at 05:52 AM, Velma Kahn wrote: >> >>> StateProv and ZipPostCode are not used for outside of the US and >>> Canada (and may be made unavailable for addresses outside of the US >>> and Canada). >> Regards >> >> Stuart Tremain >> idfk web developments >> 114a/40 yeo street neutral bay 2089 australia >> t +612 9908 2134 >> f +612 9908 4837 >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------- >> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >> the mailing list . >> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >> >> Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ > > ---------------------------------------- > Velma Kahn > Glory Day Software Company > 200 Tanager Ln NW, Floyd, Virginia 24091, U.S.A. > phone: 540-745-6469 * fax: 651-321-4884 > email: vkahn@glorydaysoftware.com > http://www.glorydaysoftware.com > http://www.communitymade.com > http://www.floydcrafts.com > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to > > Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ > > Regards Stuart Tremain idfk web developments 114a/40 yeo street neutral bay 2089 australia t +612 9908 2134 f +612 9908 4837 ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/
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