Re: World Address Info

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2003


It keeps the original formatting.
numero = 52319
interpreted = N
texte = I don't disagree with you, but I do think my sentence is being quoted out of context--perhaps it was just too carelessly written. I certainly didn't mean that the world isn't full of states, provinces, and various forms of postal codes. Donovan asked for a data structure to store address data from all parts of the world. I was describing a data structure--in the data structure I conventionally use, the state and zip fields are used only for Canadian and U.S. addresses, as what I have seen is that most other countries lay out their data address data differently, and coercing non-American things into American formats is something we do way too much here in the USA in my view, and I'd rather not participate. I don't think my credit card provider does AVS outside the U.S. I should double check. Who do you have? Velma At 10:09 AM 8/19/2003, Terry Wilson wrote: >Thought I'd chime in here. > >I would most definitely NOT eliminate postal codes on address forms. I >ship all over the world, processing credit cards through Authnet with AVS >turned on. Not only are postal codes present in nearly 100% of the >addresses submitted (I'd even venture to say 100%, but then I'd have to >check my records) but the AVS system actually works most of the time for >England, Canada, and sometimes other foreign countries; I get "Y" and "Z" >codes returned frequently. > >An additional address field, or a textarea field for street address to >allow multiple lines would accommodate places like England with unwieldy >addresses, and businesses with building names, c/o, etc. But there's no >need to elimate fields like State. Even though not all countries are >broken into states, people ordering from those countries are no doubt used >to writing n/a into irrelevant form fields. > >I just had an order from Singapore this morning, which you may know is a >city and country rolled into one. But the address DID come with a 6-digit >postal code. > >Terry > >>StateProv and ZipPostCode are not used for outside of the US and Canada >>(and may be made unavailable for addresses outside of the US and Canada). >> >>If one's business is not slanted towards US/Canada, one could eliminate >>the StateProv and ZipPostCode fields, and label the "City" line something >>like "City, Post Code, State or Province". > > >------------------------------------------------------------- >This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . >To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to > >Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ ---------------------------------------- Velma Kahn Glory Day Software Company 200 Tanager Ln NW, Floyd, Virginia 24091, U.S.A. phone: 540-745-6469 * fax: 651-321-4884 email: vkahn@glorydaysoftware.com http://www.glorydaysoftware.com http://www.communitymade.com http://www.floydcrafts.com ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ Associated Messages, from the most recent to the oldest:

    
  1. Re: World Address Info ( Terry Wilson 2003)
  2. Re: World Address Info ( Stuart Tremain 2003)
  3. Re: World Address Info ( Velma Kahn 2003)
  4. Re: World Address Info ( andy mowrey 2003)
  5. Re: World Address Info ( Velma Kahn 2003)
  6. Re: World Address Info ( Terry Wilson 2003)
  7. Re: World Address Info ( Kenneth Grome 2003)
  8. Re: World Address Info ( Stuart Tremain 2003)
  9. Re: World Address Info ( Velma Kahn 2003)
  10. Re: World Address Info ( "Kimberly D. Walls" 2003)
  11. Re: World Address Info ( Tim Robinson 2003)
  12. Re: World Address Info ( Kenneth Grome 2003)
  13. Re: World Address Info ( Tim Robinson 2003)
  14. Re: World Address Info ( Kenneth Grome 2003)
  15. Re: World Address Info ( Tim Robinson 2003)
  16. Re: World Address Info ( Kenneth Grome 2003)
  17. Re: World Address Info ( Stuart Tremain 2003)
  18. Re: World Address Info ( Velma Kahn 2003)
  19. World Address Info ( Donovan 2003)
I don't disagree with you, but I do think my sentence is being quoted out of context--perhaps it was just too carelessly written. I certainly didn't mean that the world isn't full of states, provinces, and various forms of postal codes. Donovan asked for a data structure to store address data from all parts of the world. I was describing a data structure--in the data structure I conventionally use, the state and zip fields are used only for Canadian and U.S. addresses, as what I have seen is that most other countries lay out their data address data differently, and coercing non-American things into American formats is something we do way too much here in the USA in my view, and I'd rather not participate. I don't think my credit card provider does AVS outside the U.S. I should double check. Who do you have? Velma At 10:09 AM 8/19/2003, Terry Wilson wrote: >Thought I'd chime in here. > >I would most definitely NOT eliminate postal codes on address forms. I >ship all over the world, processing credit cards through Authnet with AVS >turned on. Not only are postal codes present in nearly 100% of the >addresses submitted (I'd even venture to say 100%, but then I'd have to >check my records) but the AVS system actually works most of the time for >England, Canada, and sometimes other foreign countries; I get "Y" and "Z" >codes returned frequently. > >An additional address field, or a textarea field for street address to >allow multiple lines would accommodate places like England with unwieldy >addresses, and businesses with building names, c/o, etc. But there's no >need to elimate fields like State. Even though not all countries are >broken into states, people ordering from those countries are no doubt used >to writing n/a into irrelevant form fields. > >I just had an order from Singapore this morning, which you may know is a >city and country rolled into one. But the address DID come with a 6-digit >postal code. > >Terry > >>StateProv and ZipPostCode are not used for outside of the US and Canada >>(and may be made unavailable for addresses outside of the US and Canada). >> >>If one's business is not slanted towards US/Canada, one could eliminate >>the StateProv and ZipPostCode fields, and label the "City" line something >>like "City, Post Code, State or Province". > > >------------------------------------------------------------- >This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . >To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to > >Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ ---------------------------------------- Velma Kahn Glory Day Software Company 200 Tanager Ln NW, Floyd, Virginia 24091, U.S.A. phone: 540-745-6469 * fax: 651-321-4884 email: vkahn@glorydaysoftware.com http://www.glorydaysoftware.com http://www.communitymade.com http://www.floydcrafts.com ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ Velma Kahn

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