RE: [WebDNA] Brian Harrington

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2019


It keeps the original formatting.
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texte = 2471 --_000_LO2P265MB156500BC2DC08F0D3014E74B81820LO2P265MB1565GBRP_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mmmm. The awaiting of DNS propagation. Meh. From: Brian Harrington Sent: 30 September 2019 20:36 To: talk@webdna.us Subject: Re: [WebDNA] Brian Harrington THANK YOU THANK YOU STUART FOR ALL YOUR TIME AND HELP! NOW CAN U PLEASE GET= MY SERVER BACK UP IT KEEPS CREATING NEW PROBLEMS ALL BY ITSELF... IT WAS F= INE AND WAS SWITCHING OVER ALL MY DOMAINS AND HAD TO DEAL WITH THE GODADDY = DISASTER APPENDING MY TEMPLATE RATHER THAN OVERWRITING IT... THEY HELPED ME= HAND EDIT ALL 117 DOMAINS FIRST DELETING ALL THE A RECORDS THEN ENTERING M= Y HOME IP AS WE HAVE OUR LITTLE TIFF... LOL FOELEASEWNY.COM. 4LEASE.LIVE ARE THE ONLY 2 DOMAINS= POINTING TO DIGITAL OCEAN... BTW I FOLLOWED YOUR INSTRUCTIONS ON NEW DROPL= ET LAST NIGHT (THANK YOU THANK YOU) AND AFTER 2 HOURS WAS NOT ABLE TO LOGIN= VIA TERMINAL BUT GOT IN RIGHT NOW BUT GOTTA GO TO WORK... AND THANK YOU U = R AWESOME! On Sat, Sep 28, 2019 at 7:58 PM Stuart Tremain > wrote: I have really leaned another one of this life's lessons today. As any member of this list will may or may not know I have been an active m= ember of this list for 20+ years. During this time I have learned so much about the use of WebDNA from people= such as Ken Grome, Donovan Brooke, and others that have since moved on. I have always tried hard to return the favour and as such at times have gon= e far and beyond the task of offering help. I have enjoyed giving back to t= he community from which my skills have grown. This I believe is the reason = why I have been contracted by WebDNA users from around the world. I have seen many users over the years with configuration problems, in parti= cular the last few weeks with Ubuntu 18.04, hence the reason why I wrote th= e instructions a week or so ago on how to set up WebDNA on a fresh installa= tion of Ubuntu 18.04 - I even went as far as to provide an image of the sam= e available to anyone that would like it, all in the hope that WebDNA would= become a quick easy solution for members of this list to implement. I had a number of people request a copy of this image, none of whom have ta= ken up the offer. One user requested that I build an image that anyone coul= d use on any platform. However this is not possible for cloud servers as ea= ch cloud provider has their own flavour of Ubuntu tuned to their hosting co= nfiguration. The instructions that I publish will work if you follow the st= eps on any host and/or new Ubuntu 18.0 installation. And then along came Brian Harrington. I must preface this with the fact that everything that i have done for Bria= n was at no charge, purely a gesture of good will that I extend to all memb= ers of this list. Brian was unable to log into the Ubuntu 18.04 Droplet that he created. I of= fered to meet him on Skype to help him get past his hurdle - less than a mi= nute later I had connected to the Droplet (a virtual server) using ssh, Bri= an had some confusion as to how that was achieved, and had not received the= image that I had shared with him from DigitalOcean. So to make things easi= er and so that he didn=92t have to go backwards I simply completed the inst= allation from the instructions that I had published. Less than 20 minutes later Brian was the owner of a shiny new Ubuntu 18.04 = server complete with a working installation of WebDNA server that was only = requiring a license number. As you will know, if you have read the published instructions, Webmin is al= so installed on the Droplet. What happened next is purely comical, if I published the emails that I rece= ived and you read the warnings that I provided, plus the repeated advice th= at I gave, you would see exactly where Brian=92s problems are. From here all Brian needed to do was upload his websites to /var/www/html a= nd set up his Virtual hosts - at this stage WebDNA was 100% functional with= all the standard file extensions that are installed with the WebDNA instal= ler. As an additional task I set up two Virtual Hosts, one on 80 the other on 44= 3 with the ssl certificate that he supplied so that he could have a working= reference. However Brian had other plans, he wanted to create a new directory /Library= /Websites to be the root directory of his webserver, remember this is the s= ame person that has had no experience with a Linux server, he has had exper= ience with a Mac server so I believed that he had a good sense of being abl= e to manage a Linux Server. Brian didn=92t want to use the installed Webmin= , he wanted to do all Apache configuration by uploading files with FTP howe= ver he didn=92t have a FTP client. Brian, you may remember the Skype message that I sent you expressing my con= cern that if you work outside the standard installation you would break it. For the rest of the week I continued to help him, answer his questions, pro= vide advice. All the time doing my own work that Brian=92s emails were inte= rrupting. As I live in Sydney there were times that I was not able to answe= r him immediately due to the 10 hour time difference. Then on Friday afternoon (Sydney time) I received yet another email from Br= ian - he had locked himself out of his server, yes, I fixed this for him to= o, repaired his non-root user with sudo privileges and advised him that in = 19 minutes time I would be leaving for the weekend. So it is now Sunday morning in Sydney, I have turned on my computer this mo= rning after have a =91family=92 day yesterday to see the usually quiet WebD= NA list dominated by Brian continuing to have issues with his installation. What does surprise me, and leads me to writing this email are comments poin= ted to myself by Brian such as: "TalkList members say they will help... then they are GONE and suddenly don= 't has access to email or skype???!!! Nothing worse than someone setting yo= u up to fail...!!!=94 Brian had a very large VHost file that he moved from his Mac server to the = Linux environment without any alterations. He believes that it was easier t= o change the configuration of the Linux/Apache server than to use search an= d replace on his VHost file. Brian=92s problems relate directly to Permissi= ons and the relocation of his server root. I note that Brian has said: " I have no idea why Stuart thinks /Library/Webserver files are gonna be an= issue when apache2.conf list share folder and everything else.=94, I guess= to Brian taking advice from someone that has 23 operational Ubuntu 18.04 s= ervers really doesn=92t make much sense. So Brian, if you had followed my advice, you would have been 100% operation= al as soon as all your files had been uploaded to the /var/www/html directo= ry and had their ownership and preferences checked, and had simply changed = the root locations in your vhost configuration file simply with a search an= d replace with your text editor. If you listened to the FREE advice that yo= u were given or you could have even asked me to do it you would have had a = fully functional server many days ago. Now I would like to see a retraction of the ill placed comments that you ha= ve made about me. Kind regards Stuart Tremain Pharoah Lane Software AUSTRALIA webdna@plsoftware.com.au --------------------------------------------------------- This message is s= ent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list talk@webdna.us To unsubscribe, E-mail to: talk-leave@webdna.us archives: http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 = Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us -- Brian Harrington Auto Glass Xpress 2655 Millersport Hwy. Suite 1063 Getzville, NY 14068 (716) 861-2029 www.Auto-Glass-Xpress.com --------------------------------------------------------- This message is s= ent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list talk@webdna.us To= unsubscribe, E-mail to: talk-leave@webdna.us archives: http://www.webdna.u= s/page.dna?numero=3D55 Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us --_000_LO2P265MB156500BC2DC08F0D3014E74B81820LO2P265MB1565GBRP_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Mmmm.

The awaiting of DNS propagation.

Meh.

 

From: Brian Harrington
Sent: 30 September 2019 20:36
To: talk@webdna.us
Subject: Re: [WebDNA] Brian Harrington

 

THANK YOU THANK YOU STUART FOR ALL YOUR TIME AND HELP! NOW= CAN U PLEASE GET MY SERVER BACK UP IT KEEPS CREATING NEW PROBLEMS ALL BY I= TSELF... IT WAS FINE AND WAS SWITCHING OVER ALL MY DOMAINS AND HAD TO DEAL = WITH THE GODADDY DISASTER APPENDING MY TEMPLATE RATHER THAN OVERWRITING IT... THEY HELPED ME HAND EDIT ALL 117= DOMAINS FIRST DELETING ALL THE A RECORDS THEN ENTERING MY HOME IP AS WE HA= VE OUR LITTLE TIFF... LOL
FOELEASEWNY.COM. 4LEASE.LIVE AR= E THE ONLY 2 DOMAINS POINTING TO DIGITAL OCEAN... BTW I FOLLOWED YOUR INSTR= UCTIONS ON NEW DROPLET LAST NIGHT (THANK YOU THANK YOU) AND AFTER 2 HOURS W= AS NOT ABLE TO LOGIN VIA TERMINAL BUT GOT IN RIGHT NOW BUT GOTTA GO TO WORK... AND THANK YOU U R AWESOME!

On Sat, Sep 28, 2019 at 7:58 PM Stuar= t Tremain <webdna@plsoftware= ..com.au> wrote:
I have really leaned another one = of this life's lessons today.

As any member of this list will may or may not know I have been an act= ive member of this list for 20+ years.

During this time I have learned so much about the use of WebDNA from p= eople such as Ken Grome, Donovan Brooke, and others that have since moved o= n.

I have always tried hard to return the favour and as such at times hav= e gone far and beyond the task of offering help. I have enjoyed giving back= to the community from which my skills have grown. This I believe is the re= ason why I have been contracted by WebDNA users from around the world.

I have seen many users over the years with configuration problems, in = particular the last few weeks with Ubuntu 18.04, hence the reason why I wro= te the instructions a week or so ago on how to set up WebDNA on a fresh ins= tallation of Ubuntu 18.04 - I even went as far as to provide an image of the same available to anyone that wo= uld like it, all in the hope that WebDNA would become a quick easy solution= for members of this list to implement.

I had a number of people request a copy of this image, none of whom ha= ve taken up the offer. One user requested that I build an image that anyone= could use on any platform. However this is not possible for cloud servers = as each cloud provider has their own flavour of Ubuntu tuned to their hosting configuration. The instructio= ns that I publish will work if you follow the steps on any host and/or new = Ubuntu 18.0 installation.

And then along came Brian Harrington. 

I must preface this with the fact that everything that i have done for= Brian was at no charge, purely a gesture of good will that I extend to all= members of this list.

Brian was unable to log into the Ubuntu 18.04 Droplet that he created.= I offered to meet him on Skype to help him get past his hurdle - less than= a minute later I had connected to the Droplet (a virtual server) using ssh= , Brian had some confusion as to how that was achieved, and had not received the image that I had shared wi= th him from DigitalOcean. So to make things easier and so that he didn=92t = have to go backwards I simply completed the installation from the instructi= ons that I had published.

Less than 20 minutes later Brian was the owner of a shiny new Ubuntu 1= 8.04 server complete with a working installation of WebDNA server that was = only requiring a license number.

As you will know, if you have read the published instructions, Webmin = is also installed on the Droplet.

What happened next is purely comical, if I published the emails that I= received and you read the warnings that I provided, plus the repeated advi= ce that I gave,  you would see exactly where Brian=92s problems are.

From here all Brian needed to do was upload his websites to /var/www/h= tml and set up his Virtual hosts - at this stage WebDNA was 100% functional= with all the standard file extensions that are installed with the WebDNA i= nstaller.

As an additional task I set up two Virtual Hosts, one on 80 the other = on 443 with the ssl certificate that he supplied so that he could have a wo= rking reference.

However Brian had other plans, he wanted to create a new directory /Li= brary/Websites to be the root directory of his webserver, remember this is = the same person that has had no experience with a Linux server, he has had = experience with a Mac server so I believed that he had a good sense of being able to manage a Linux Server= .. Brian didn=92t want to use the installed Webmin, he wanted to do all Apac= he configuration by uploading files with FTP however he didn=92t have a FTP= client.

Brian, you may remember the Skype message that I sent you expressing m= y concern that if you work outside the standard installation you would brea= k it.

For the rest of the week I continued to help him, answer his questions= , provide advice. All the time doing my own work that Brian=92s emails were= interrupting. As I live in Sydney there were times that I was not able to = answer him immediately due to the 10 hour time difference.

Then on Friday afternoon (Sydney time) I received yet another email fr= om Brian - he had locked himself out of his server, yes, I fixed this for h= im too, repaired his non-root user with sudo privileges and advised him tha= t in 19 minutes time I would be leaving for the weekend.

So it is now Sunday morning in Sydney, I have turned on my computer th= is morning after have a =91family=92 day yesterday to see the usually quiet= WebDNA list dominated by Brian continuing to have issues with his installa= tion.

What does surprise me, and leads me to writing this email are comments= pointed to myself by Brian such as:
"TalkList members say they wi= ll help... then they are GONE and suddenly don't has access to email or sky= pe???!!! Nothing worse than someone setting you up to fail...!!!= =94

Brian had a very large VHost file that h= e moved from his Mac server to the Linux environment without any alteration= s. He believes that it was easier to change the configuration of the Linux/= Apache server than to use search and replace on his VHost file. Brian=92s problems relate directly to Permissio= ns and the relocation of his server root. I note that Brian has said: =
" I have no idea why Stu= art thinks /Library/Webserver files are gonna be an issue when apache2.conf= list share folder and everything else.=94, I guess to Brian taking advice from someone that has 23 operational Ubu= ntu 18.04 servers really doesn=92t make much sense.

So Brian, if you had followed my advice, you w= ould have been 100% operational as soon as all your files had been uploaded= to the /var/www/html directory and had their ownership and preference= s checked, and had simply changed the root locations in your vhost configuration file simply with a search and replace wit= h your text editor. If you listened to the FREE advice that you were given = or you could have even asked me to do it you would have had a fully functio= nal server many days ago.

Now I would like to see a retraction of the ill placed comments that y= ou have made about me.
 
Kind regards

Stuart Tremain
Pharoah Lane Software
AUSTRALIA







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2471 --_000_LO2P265MB156500BC2DC08F0D3014E74B81820LO2P265MB1565GBRP_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mmmm. The awaiting of DNS propagation. Meh. From: Brian Harrington Sent: 30 September 2019 20:36 To: talk@webdna.us Subject: Re: [WebDNA] Brian Harrington THANK YOU THANK YOU STUART FOR ALL YOUR TIME AND HELP! NOW CAN U PLEASE GET= MY SERVER BACK UP IT KEEPS CREATING NEW PROBLEMS ALL BY ITSELF... IT WAS F= INE AND WAS SWITCHING OVER ALL MY DOMAINS AND HAD TO DEAL WITH THE GODADDY = DISASTER APPENDING MY TEMPLATE RATHER THAN OVERWRITING IT... THEY HELPED ME= HAND EDIT ALL 117 DOMAINS FIRST DELETING ALL THE A RECORDS THEN ENTERING M= Y HOME IP AS WE HAVE OUR LITTLE TIFF... LOL FOELEASEWNY.COM. 4LEASE.LIVE ARE THE ONLY 2 DOMAINS= POINTING TO DIGITAL OCEAN... BTW I FOLLOWED YOUR INSTRUCTIONS ON NEW DROPL= ET LAST NIGHT (THANK YOU THANK YOU) AND AFTER 2 HOURS WAS NOT ABLE TO LOGIN= VIA TERMINAL BUT GOT IN RIGHT NOW BUT GOTTA GO TO WORK... AND THANK YOU U = R AWESOME! On Sat, Sep 28, 2019 at 7:58 PM Stuart Tremain > wrote: I have really leaned another one of this life's lessons today. As any member of this list will may or may not know I have been an active m= ember of this list for 20+ years. During this time I have learned so much about the use of WebDNA from people= such as Ken Grome, Donovan Brooke, and others that have since moved on. I have always tried hard to return the favour and as such at times have gon= e far and beyond the task of offering help. I have enjoyed giving back to t= he community from which my skills have grown. This I believe is the reason = why I have been contracted by WebDNA users from around the world. I have seen many users over the years with configuration problems, in parti= cular the last few weeks with Ubuntu 18.04, hence the reason why I wrote th= e instructions a week or so ago on how to set up WebDNA on a fresh installa= tion of Ubuntu 18.04 - I even went as far as to provide an image of the sam= e available to anyone that would like it, all in the hope that WebDNA would= become a quick easy solution for members of this list to implement. I had a number of people request a copy of this image, none of whom have ta= ken up the offer. One user requested that I build an image that anyone coul= d use on any platform. However this is not possible for cloud servers as ea= ch cloud provider has their own flavour of Ubuntu tuned to their hosting co= nfiguration. The instructions that I publish will work if you follow the st= eps on any host and/or new Ubuntu 18.0 installation. And then along came Brian Harrington. I must preface this with the fact that everything that i have done for Bria= n was at no charge, purely a gesture of good will that I extend to all memb= ers of this list. Brian was unable to log into the Ubuntu 18.04 Droplet that he created. I of= fered to meet him on Skype to help him get past his hurdle - less than a mi= nute later I had connected to the Droplet (a virtual server) using ssh, Bri= an had some confusion as to how that was achieved, and had not received the= image that I had shared with him from DigitalOcean. So to make things easi= er and so that he didn=92t have to go backwards I simply completed the inst= allation from the instructions that I had published. Less than 20 minutes later Brian was the owner of a shiny new Ubuntu 18.04 = server complete with a working installation of WebDNA server that was only = requiring a license number. As you will know, if you have read the published instructions, Webmin is al= so installed on the Droplet. What happened next is purely comical, if I published the emails that I rece= ived and you read the warnings that I provided, plus the repeated advice th= at I gave, you would see exactly where Brian=92s problems are. From here all Brian needed to do was upload his websites to /var/www/html a= nd set up his Virtual hosts - at this stage WebDNA was 100% functional with= all the standard file extensions that are installed with the WebDNA instal= ler. As an additional task I set up two Virtual Hosts, one on 80 the other on 44= 3 with the ssl certificate that he supplied so that he could have a working= reference. However Brian had other plans, he wanted to create a new directory /Library= /Websites to be the root directory of his webserver, remember this is the s= ame person that has had no experience with a Linux server, he has had exper= ience with a Mac server so I believed that he had a good sense of being abl= e to manage a Linux Server. Brian didn=92t want to use the installed Webmin= , he wanted to do all Apache configuration by uploading files with FTP howe= ver he didn=92t have a FTP client. Brian, you may remember the Skype message that I sent you expressing my con= cern that if you work outside the standard installation you would break it. For the rest of the week I continued to help him, answer his questions, pro= vide advice. All the time doing my own work that Brian=92s emails were inte= rrupting. As I live in Sydney there were times that I was not able to answe= r him immediately due to the 10 hour time difference. Then on Friday afternoon (Sydney time) I received yet another email from Br= ian - he had locked himself out of his server, yes, I fixed this for him to= o, repaired his non-root user with sudo privileges and advised him that in = 19 minutes time I would be leaving for the weekend. So it is now Sunday morning in Sydney, I have turned on my computer this mo= rning after have a =91family=92 day yesterday to see the usually quiet WebD= NA list dominated by Brian continuing to have issues with his installation. What does surprise me, and leads me to writing this email are comments poin= ted to myself by Brian such as: "TalkList members say they will help... then they are GONE and suddenly don= 't has access to email or skype???!!! Nothing worse than someone setting yo= u up to fail...!!!=94 Brian had a very large VHost file that he moved from his Mac server to the = Linux environment without any alterations. He believes that it was easier t= o change the configuration of the Linux/Apache server than to use search an= d replace on his VHost file. Brian=92s problems relate directly to Permissi= ons and the relocation of his server root. I note that Brian has said: " I have no idea why Stuart thinks /Library/Webserver files are gonna be an= issue when apache2.conf list share folder and everything else.=94, I guess= to Brian taking advice from someone that has 23 operational Ubuntu 18.04 s= ervers really doesn=92t make much sense. So Brian, if you had followed my advice, you would have been 100% operation= al as soon as all your files had been uploaded to the /var/www/html directo= ry and had their ownership and preferences checked, and had simply changed = the root locations in your vhost configuration file simply with a search an= d replace with your text editor. If you listened to the FREE advice that yo= u were given or you could have even asked me to do it you would have had a = fully functional server many days ago. Now I would like to see a retraction of the ill placed comments that you ha= ve made about me. Kind regards Stuart Tremain Pharoah Lane Software AUSTRALIA webdna@plsoftware.com.au --------------------------------------------------------- This message is s= ent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list talk@webdna.us To unsubscribe, E-mail to: talk-leave@webdna.us archives: http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 = Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us -- Brian Harrington Auto Glass Xpress 2655 Millersport Hwy. Suite 1063 Getzville, NY 14068 (716) 861-2029 www.Auto-Glass-Xpress.com --------------------------------------------------------- This message is s= ent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list talk@webdna.us To= unsubscribe, E-mail to: talk-leave@webdna.us archives: http://www.webdna.u= s/page.dna?numero=3D55 Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us --_000_LO2P265MB156500BC2DC08F0D3014E74B81820LO2P265MB1565GBRP_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Mmmm.

The awaiting of DNS propagation.

Meh.

 

From: Brian Harrington
Sent: 30 September 2019 20:36
To: talk@webdna.us
Subject: Re: [WebDNA] Brian Harrington

 

THANK YOU THANK YOU STUART FOR ALL YOUR TIME AND HELP! NOW= CAN U PLEASE GET MY SERVER BACK UP IT KEEPS CREATING NEW PROBLEMS ALL BY I= TSELF... IT WAS FINE AND WAS SWITCHING OVER ALL MY DOMAINS AND HAD TO DEAL = WITH THE GODADDY DISASTER APPENDING MY TEMPLATE RATHER THAN OVERWRITING IT... THEY HELPED ME HAND EDIT ALL 117= DOMAINS FIRST DELETING ALL THE A RECORDS THEN ENTERING MY HOME IP AS WE HA= VE OUR LITTLE TIFF... LOL
FOELEASEWNY.COM. 4LEASE.LIVE AR= E THE ONLY 2 DOMAINS POINTING TO DIGITAL OCEAN... BTW I FOLLOWED YOUR INSTR= UCTIONS ON NEW DROPLET LAST NIGHT (THANK YOU THANK YOU) AND AFTER 2 HOURS W= AS NOT ABLE TO LOGIN VIA TERMINAL BUT GOT IN RIGHT NOW BUT GOTTA GO TO WORK... AND THANK YOU U R AWESOME!

On Sat, Sep 28, 2019 at 7:58 PM Stuar= t Tremain <webdna@plsoftware= ..com.au> wrote:
I have really leaned another one = of this life's lessons today.

As any member of this list will may or may not know I have been an act= ive member of this list for 20+ years.

During this time I have learned so much about the use of WebDNA from p= eople such as Ken Grome, Donovan Brooke, and others that have since moved o= n.

I have always tried hard to return the favour and as such at times hav= e gone far and beyond the task of offering help. I have enjoyed giving back= to the community from which my skills have grown. This I believe is the re= ason why I have been contracted by WebDNA users from around the world.

I have seen many users over the years with configuration problems, in = particular the last few weeks with Ubuntu 18.04, hence the reason why I wro= te the instructions a week or so ago on how to set up WebDNA on a fresh ins= tallation of Ubuntu 18.04 - I even went as far as to provide an image of the same available to anyone that wo= uld like it, all in the hope that WebDNA would become a quick easy solution= for members of this list to implement.

I had a number of people request a copy of this image, none of whom ha= ve taken up the offer. One user requested that I build an image that anyone= could use on any platform. However this is not possible for cloud servers = as each cloud provider has their own flavour of Ubuntu tuned to their hosting configuration. The instructio= ns that I publish will work if you follow the steps on any host and/or new = Ubuntu 18.0 installation.

And then along came Brian Harrington. 

I must preface this with the fact that everything that i have done for= Brian was at no charge, purely a gesture of good will that I extend to all= members of this list.

Brian was unable to log into the Ubuntu 18.04 Droplet that he created.= I offered to meet him on Skype to help him get past his hurdle - less than= a minute later I had connected to the Droplet (a virtual server) using ssh= , Brian had some confusion as to how that was achieved, and had not received the image that I had shared wi= th him from DigitalOcean. So to make things easier and so that he didn=92t = have to go backwards I simply completed the installation from the instructi= ons that I had published.

Less than 20 minutes later Brian was the owner of a shiny new Ubuntu 1= 8.04 server complete with a working installation of WebDNA server that was = only requiring a license number.

As you will know, if you have read the published instructions, Webmin = is also installed on the Droplet.

What happened next is purely comical, if I published the emails that I= received and you read the warnings that I provided, plus the repeated advi= ce that I gave,  you would see exactly where Brian=92s problems are.

From here all Brian needed to do was upload his websites to /var/www/h= tml and set up his Virtual hosts - at this stage WebDNA was 100% functional= with all the standard file extensions that are installed with the WebDNA i= nstaller.

As an additional task I set up two Virtual Hosts, one on 80 the other = on 443 with the ssl certificate that he supplied so that he could have a wo= rking reference.

However Brian had other plans, he wanted to create a new directory /Li= brary/Websites to be the root directory of his webserver, remember this is = the same person that has had no experience with a Linux server, he has had = experience with a Mac server so I believed that he had a good sense of being able to manage a Linux Server= .. Brian didn=92t want to use the installed Webmin, he wanted to do all Apac= he configuration by uploading files with FTP however he didn=92t have a FTP= client.

Brian, you may remember the Skype message that I sent you expressing m= y concern that if you work outside the standard installation you would brea= k it.

For the rest of the week I continued to help him, answer his questions= , provide advice. All the time doing my own work that Brian=92s emails were= interrupting. As I live in Sydney there were times that I was not able to = answer him immediately due to the 10 hour time difference.

Then on Friday afternoon (Sydney time) I received yet another email fr= om Brian - he had locked himself out of his server, yes, I fixed this for h= im too, repaired his non-root user with sudo privileges and advised him tha= t in 19 minutes time I would be leaving for the weekend.

So it is now Sunday morning in Sydney, I have turned on my computer th= is morning after have a =91family=92 day yesterday to see the usually quiet= WebDNA list dominated by Brian continuing to have issues with his installa= tion.

What does surprise me, and leads me to writing this email are comments= pointed to myself by Brian such as:
"TalkList members say they wi= ll help... then they are GONE and suddenly don't has access to email or sky= pe???!!! Nothing worse than someone setting you up to fail...!!!= =94

Brian had a very large VHost file that h= e moved from his Mac server to the Linux environment without any alteration= s. He believes that it was easier to change the configuration of the Linux/= Apache server than to use search and replace on his VHost file. Brian=92s problems relate directly to Permissio= ns and the relocation of his server root. I note that Brian has said: =
" I have no idea why Stu= art thinks /Library/Webserver files are gonna be an issue when apache2.conf= list share folder and everything else.=94, I guess to Brian taking advice from someone that has 23 operational Ubu= ntu 18.04 servers really doesn=92t make much sense.

So Brian, if you had followed my advice, you w= ould have been 100% operational as soon as all your files had been uploaded= to the /var/www/html directory and had their ownership and preference= s checked, and had simply changed the root locations in your vhost configuration file simply with a search and replace wit= h your text editor. If you listened to the FREE advice that you were given = or you could have even asked me to do it you would have had a fully functio= nal server many days ago.

Now I would like to see a retraction of the ill placed comments that y= ou have made about me.
 
Kind regards

Stuart Tremain
Pharoah Lane Software
AUSTRALIA







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