Re: [OT] Theiving B*****ds
This WebDNA talk-list message is from 2004
It keeps the original formatting.
numero = 59410
interpreted = N
texte = There is a 30 day waiting period, it's called REGISTER-LOCK. During the time the previous owner is allowed to pay a fine and get the domain back. That also happen to me. Matt Perosi Brian Fries wrote: > Here's what I'd like to see... > > A 30-day period after expiration of a domain name during which the > domain is disabled at the root DNS, and nobody except the previous > owner can re-register it. Sometimes the contact info in an old > registration gets out of date, and the domain owner doesn't know about > the pending destruction of his/her website (to quote Douglas Adams, > "There's no point in acting all surprised about it. All the planning > charts and demotition orders have been on display in your local > planning department in Alpha Centauri for fifty of your earth years, > so you've had plenty of time to lodge any formal complaint and it's > far too late to start making a fuss about it now."). > > A 30-day window would allow the legitimate domain owner to find out > that domain expired (because it doesn't work anymore) and have a > chance to fix the problem before the ambulance chasers grab it. > > - brian > > On Sep 17, 2004, at 8:56 AM, John Peacock wrote: > >> Alan White wrote: >> >>> There should be a limit on the amount of time that these so called >>> legitimately operating business can hold domains... >> >> >> To play devil's advocate, please define concisely how you can >> differentiate domain squatters/pirates from companies who register >> alternate domains and simply redirect them to the main domain (or do >> nothing with them at all). We fall into that category; I have a >> couple of domains where I registered several variants that I am never >> going to use in any constructive fashion, but I will continue to >> renew until the end of time to keep the porn merchants from sullying >> our corporate name. >> >> I know of one domain I own that someone else would like to have, but >> we were unable to come to an agreement on a reasonable price (and my >> last offer was $200). The domain was something we inherited when we >> purchased another publisher and although we are not currently using >> the domain, we do have that imprint (i.e. name) that we could at some >> point decide to revive. Hence the domain name has a value for us >> above and beyond the cost of registration itself. >> >> I payed $2000 for a four letter domain a number of years ago and I >> was happy to do so, since it had great value to us to own the domain. >> That's the nature of the marketplace; domain registrations are a >> limited resource (c.f. Highlander - There Can Be Only One!). It is >> inevitable in such an environment that speculators will spring up. >> >> The reality of the situation is that the domain name system was set >> up in a simpler time (remember they were originally free). ICANN is >> an incompetent bunch of wankers, intent only on getting comped for >> travel to far flung meetings worldwide where nothing is >> accomplished. And it's going to stay that way because Network >> Solutions likes it that way (and they have powerful friends and lots >> of money to throw around). >> >> If someone has registered a domain name that you believe is >> rightfully yours, your only choice is the UDRP. If you have a >> legitimate business, you can afford the cost (it costs less to file a >> UDRP than it does to incorporate in most states). >> >> John >> >> -- >> John Peacock >> Director of Information Research and Technology >> Rowman & Littlefield Publishing Group >> 4501 Forbes Boulevard >> Suite H >> Lanham, MD 20706 >> 301-459-3366 x.5010 >> fax 301-429-5748 > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list
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There is a 30 day waiting period, it's called REGISTER-LOCK. During the time the previous owner is allowed to pay a fine and get the domain back. That also happen to me. Matt Perosi Brian Fries wrote: > Here's what I'd like to see... > > A 30-day period after expiration of a domain name during which the > domain is disabled at the root DNS, and nobody except the previous > owner can re-register it. Sometimes the contact info in an old > registration gets out of date, and the domain owner doesn't know about > the pending destruction of his/her website (to quote Douglas Adams, > "There's no point in acting all surprised about it. All the planning > charts and demotition orders have been on display in your local > planning department in Alpha Centauri for fifty of your earth years, > so you've had plenty of time to lodge any formal complaint and it's > far too late to start making a fuss about it now."). > > A 30-day window would allow the legitimate domain owner to find out > that domain expired (because it doesn't work anymore) and have a > chance to fix the problem before the ambulance chasers grab it. > > - brian > > On Sep 17, 2004, at 8:56 AM, John Peacock wrote: > >> Alan White wrote: >> >>> There should be a limit on the amount of time that these so called >>> legitimately operating business can hold domains... >> >> >> To play devil's advocate, please define concisely how you can >> differentiate domain squatters/pirates from companies who register >> alternate domains and simply redirect them to the main domain (or do >> nothing with them at all). We fall into that category; I have a >> couple of domains where I registered several variants that I am never >> going to use in any constructive fashion, but I will continue to >> renew until the end of time to keep the porn merchants from sullying >> our corporate name. >> >> I know of one domain I own that someone else would like to have, but >> we were unable to come to an agreement on a reasonable price (and my >> last offer was $200). The domain was something we inherited when we >> purchased another publisher and although we are not currently using >> the domain, we do have that imprint (i.e. name) that we could at some >> point decide to revive. Hence the domain name has a value for us >> above and beyond the cost of registration itself. >> >> I payed $2000 for a four letter domain a number of years ago and I >> was happy to do so, since it had great value to us to own the domain. >> That's the nature of the marketplace; domain registrations are a >> limited resource (c.f. Highlander - There Can Be Only One!). It is >> inevitable in such an environment that speculators will spring up. >> >> The reality of the situation is that the domain name system was set >> up in a simpler time (remember they were originally free). ICANN is >> an incompetent bunch of wankers, intent only on getting comped for >> travel to far flung meetings worldwide where nothing is >> accomplished. And it's going to stay that way because Network >> Solutions likes it that way (and they have powerful friends and lots >> of money to throw around). >> >> If someone has registered a domain name that you believe is >> rightfully yours, your only choice is the UDRP. If you have a >> legitimate business, you can afford the cost (it costs less to file a >> UDRP than it does to incorporate in most states). >> >> John >> >> -- >> John Peacock >> Director of Information Research and Technology >> Rowman & Littlefield Publishing Group >> 4501 Forbes Boulevard >> Suite H >> Lanham, MD 20706 >> 301-459-3366 x.5010 >> fax 301-429-5748 > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to > > Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ > ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/
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