Re: [WebDNA] WebDNA app

This WebDNA talk-list message is from

2013


It keeps the original formatting.
numero = 110915
interpreted = N
texte = --001a11c35664fcfd1404ec559246 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Not simple like one-click installer. On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 12:07 PM, Dan Strong wrote: > Why not run a WebDNA install inside of a Virtual box image? > > -Dan > > > Sent from phone. > > > -------- Original message -------- > From: "C. Frank Wolfe" > Date:11/29/2013 1:32 AM (GMT-08:00) > To: talk@webdna.us > Subject: Re: [WebDNA] WebDNA app > > I vote single binary as well. Looks like there is some interest. > > Licensing would have to still phone home I guess to verify serial number > as I think Web Catalog did. > > It=92s not that these machines don=92t have internet access, it=92s that = some > clients don=92t want their data in the cloud, and telling them I have to > install a web server on a stand along PC, or their network server, and th= en > I have to deal with their network manager, it just gets into too many > issues for them, they don=92t understand, and they and don=92t want to bu= y what > they don=92t understand. If I say, well I just have to install one app, = it=92s > easy to sell. Hey, it=92s just like installing Office. That they understa= nd. > > Ideally I would be able to install on the office file server as well. > Maybe you could sell licenses by number of users? > > These are small clients for me, probably the WebDNA developers with large > clients would not use this, so I think it opens up a market for smaller > businesses. If a particular application needs PHP I guess that is a reas= on > to say you need to have a Cloud based solution. But there are so many > things that can be done just with WebDNA alone it would certainly open up > my markets. > > Thanks for considering. > > Frank > > On Nov 28, 2013, at 8:29 PM, christophe.billiottet@webdna.us wrote: > > > Hi Frank! how would you see that? a kind of =93WebDNA + built-in web > server=94 in one single binary? or a pre-built WebDNA + webserver > installation? > > > > > > - chris > > > > > > > > On Nov 28, 2013, at 5:02 PM, C. Frank Wolfe wrote: > > > >> Since I don=92t seem to be the only one up at this hour (4 am in Hawai= i), > does anyone else think it would be a GREAT idea to have a runtime version > or WebDNA, or an App that you could run on a single computer? I have > clients that I could do so much with, but they won=92t put data on the > internet even with a secure server. > >> > >> I supposed it would have to have a little web server built in, but it > would be so much easier than convincing some of these companies to instal= l > ISS or whatever on their network or adding a box just for WebDNA. A > network version would be even better, and I would pay for those each and > every time and bill the client. One price for a single computer, more fo= r > the network version. > >> > >> Christophe/Donovan? > >> > >> Hopefully, > >> > >> Frank > >> > >> --------------------------------------------------------- This message > is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To > unsubscribe, E-mail to: archives: > http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us Bug Reporting: support@webdna.u= s > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us > Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us > --001a11c35664fcfd1404ec559246 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Not simple like one-click installer.


On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at= 12:07 PM, Dan Strong <dan@danstrong.com> wrote:
Why not run a WebDNA install = inside of a Virtual box image?

-Dan


Sent from phone.


-------- Original message --------
From: &quo= t;C. Frank Wolfe"
Date:11/29/2013 1:32 AM (GMT-08:00) To: talk@webdna.us =
Subject: Re: [WebDNA] WebDNA app

I vote= single binary as well.=A0 Looks like there is some interest.=A0

Li= censing would have to still phone home I guess to verify serial number as I= think Web Catalog did.

It=92s not that these machines don=92t have internet access, it=92s tha= t some clients don=92t want their data in the cloud, and telling them I hav= e to install a web server on a stand along PC, or their network server, and= then I have to deal with their network manager, it just gets into too many= issues for them, they don=92t understand, and they and don=92t want to buy= what they don=92t understand.=A0 If I say, well I just have to install one= app, it=92s easy to sell. Hey, it=92s just like installing Office. That th= ey understand.

Ideally I would be able to install on the office file server as well.= =A0 Maybe you could sell licenses by number of users?

These are smal= l clients for me, probably the WebDNA developers with large clients would n= ot use this, so I think it opens up a market for smaller businesses.=A0 If = a particular application needs PHP I guess that is a reason to say you need= to have a Cloud based solution. But there are so many things that can be d= one just with WebDNA alone it would certainly open up my markets.

Thanks for considering.

Frank

On = Nov 28, 2013, at 8:29 PM, christophe.billiottet@webdna.us wrote:

> = Hi Frank! how would you see that? a kind of =93WebDNA + built-in web server= =94 in one single binary? or a pre-built WebDNA + webserver installation? >
>
> - chris
>
>
>
> On Nov 28= , 2013, at 5:02 PM, C. Frank Wolfe <frank@cwolfe.com> wrote:
>
>> Sinc= e I don=92t seem to be the only one up at this hour (4 am in Hawaii), does = anyone else think it would be a GREAT idea to have a runtime version or Web= DNA, or an App that you could run on a single computer?=A0 I have clients t= hat I could do so much with, but they won=92t put data on the internet even= with a secure server.
>>
>> I supposed it would have to have a little web server = built in, but it would be so much easier than convincing some of these comp= anies to install ISS or whatever on their network or adding a box just for = WebDNA.=A0 A network version would be even better, and I would pay for thos= e each and every time and bill the client.=A0 One price for a single comput= er, more for the network version.
>>
>> Christophe/Donovan?
>>
>> Hopefull= y,
>>
>> Frank
>>
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--001a11c35664fcfd1404ec559246 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Not simple like one-click installer. On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 12:07 PM, Dan Strong wrote: > Why not run a WebDNA install inside of a Virtual box image? > > -Dan > > > Sent from phone. > > > -------- Original message -------- > From: "C. Frank Wolfe" > Date:11/29/2013 1:32 AM (GMT-08:00) > To: talk@webdna.us > Subject: Re: [WebDNA] WebDNA app > > I vote single binary as well. Looks like there is some interest. > > Licensing would have to still phone home I guess to verify serial number > as I think Web Catalog did. > > It=92s not that these machines don=92t have internet access, it=92s that = some > clients don=92t want their data in the cloud, and telling them I have to > install a web server on a stand along PC, or their network server, and th= en > I have to deal with their network manager, it just gets into too many > issues for them, they don=92t understand, and they and don=92t want to bu= y what > they don=92t understand. If I say, well I just have to install one app, = it=92s > easy to sell. Hey, it=92s just like installing Office. That they understa= nd. > > Ideally I would be able to install on the office file server as well. > Maybe you could sell licenses by number of users? > > These are small clients for me, probably the WebDNA developers with large > clients would not use this, so I think it opens up a market for smaller > businesses. If a particular application needs PHP I guess that is a reas= on > to say you need to have a Cloud based solution. But there are so many > things that can be done just with WebDNA alone it would certainly open up > my markets. > > Thanks for considering. > > Frank > > On Nov 28, 2013, at 8:29 PM, christophe.billiottet@webdna.us wrote: > > > Hi Frank! how would you see that? a kind of =93WebDNA + built-in web > server=94 in one single binary? or a pre-built WebDNA + webserver > installation? > > > > > > - chris > > > > > > > > On Nov 28, 2013, at 5:02 PM, C. Frank Wolfe wrote: > > > >> Since I don=92t seem to be the only one up at this hour (4 am in Hawai= i), > does anyone else think it would be a GREAT idea to have a runtime version > or WebDNA, or an App that you could run on a single computer? I have > clients that I could do so much with, but they won=92t put data on the > internet even with a secure server. > >> > >> I supposed it would have to have a little web server built in, but it > would be so much easier than convincing some of these companies to instal= l > ISS or whatever on their network or adding a box just for WebDNA. A > network version would be even better, and I would pay for those each and > every time and bill the client. One price for a single computer, more fo= r > the network version. > >> > >> Christophe/Donovan? > >> > >> Hopefully, > >> > >> Frank > >> > >> --------------------------------------------------------- This message > is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To > unsubscribe, E-mail to: archives: > http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us Bug Reporting: support@webdna.u= s > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us > Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us > --001a11c35664fcfd1404ec559246 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Not simple like one-click installer.


On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at= 12:07 PM, Dan Strong <dan@danstrong.com> wrote:
Why not run a WebDNA install = inside of a Virtual box image?

-Dan


Sent from phone.


-------- Original message --------
From: &quo= t;C. Frank Wolfe"
Date:11/29/2013 1:32 AM (GMT-08:00) To: talk@webdna.us =
Subject: Re: [WebDNA] WebDNA app

I vote= single binary as well.=A0 Looks like there is some interest.=A0

Li= censing would have to still phone home I guess to verify serial number as I= think Web Catalog did.

It=92s not that these machines don=92t have internet access, it=92s tha= t some clients don=92t want their data in the cloud, and telling them I hav= e to install a web server on a stand along PC, or their network server, and= then I have to deal with their network manager, it just gets into too many= issues for them, they don=92t understand, and they and don=92t want to buy= what they don=92t understand.=A0 If I say, well I just have to install one= app, it=92s easy to sell. Hey, it=92s just like installing Office. That th= ey understand.

Ideally I would be able to install on the office file server as well.= =A0 Maybe you could sell licenses by number of users?

These are smal= l clients for me, probably the WebDNA developers with large clients would n= ot use this, so I think it opens up a market for smaller businesses.=A0 If = a particular application needs PHP I guess that is a reason to say you need= to have a Cloud based solution. But there are so many things that can be d= one just with WebDNA alone it would certainly open up my markets.

Thanks for considering.

Frank

On = Nov 28, 2013, at 8:29 PM, christophe.billiottet@webdna.us wrote:

> = Hi Frank! how would you see that? a kind of =93WebDNA + built-in web server= =94 in one single binary? or a pre-built WebDNA + webserver installation? >
>
> - chris
>
>
>
> On Nov 28= , 2013, at 5:02 PM, C. Frank Wolfe <frank@cwolfe.com> wrote:
>
>> Sinc= e I don=92t seem to be the only one up at this hour (4 am in Hawaii), does = anyone else think it would be a GREAT idea to have a runtime version or Web= DNA, or an App that you could run on a single computer?=A0 I have clients t= hat I could do so much with, but they won=92t put data on the internet even= with a secure server.
>>
>> I supposed it would have to have a little web server = built in, but it would be so much easier than convincing some of these comp= anies to install ISS or whatever on their network or adding a box just for = WebDNA.=A0 A network version would be even better, and I would pay for thos= e each and every time and bill the client.=A0 One price for a single comput= er, more for the network version.
>>
>> Christophe/Donovan?
>>
>> Hopefull= y,
>>
>> Frank
>>
>> ----------------= ----------------------------------------- This message is sent to you becau= se you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: arch= ives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us
>


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