Re: [WebDNA] WebDNA app

This WebDNA talk-list message is from

2013


It keeps the original formatting.
numero = 110919
interpreted = N
texte = --Apple-Mail=_75F1D540-7D7E-46DC-80D3-7F8F7F44D4D4 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Dan, That=92s an interesting idea. Then I would not have to deal with the = network manager at all.=20 Although, I=92d still have to install some server software, and I am so = tired of dealing with server issues. I just want to program. (I bet I=92m= not the first to say that. LOL) Thanks, Frank On Nov 29, 2013, at 8:07 AM, Dan Strong wrote: > Why not run a WebDNA install inside of a Virtual box image? >=20 > -Dan >=20 >=20 > Sent from phone. >=20 >=20 > -------- Original message -------- > From: "C. Frank Wolfe"=20 > Date:11/29/2013 1:32 AM (GMT-08:00)=20 > To: talk@webdna.us=20 > Subject: Re: [WebDNA] WebDNA app=20 >=20 > I vote single binary as well. Looks like there is some interest. =20 >=20 > Licensing would have to still phone home I guess to verify serial = number as I think Web Catalog did. >=20 > It=92s not that these machines don=92t have internet access, it=92s = that some clients don=92t want their data in the cloud, and telling them = I have to install a web server on a stand along PC, or their network = server, and then I have to deal with their network manager, it just gets = into too many issues for them, they don=92t understand, and they and = don=92t want to buy what they don=92t understand. If I say, well I just = have to install one app, it=92s easy to sell. Hey, it=92s just like = installing Office. That they understand. >=20 > Ideally I would be able to install on the office file server as well. = Maybe you could sell licenses by number of users? >=20 > These are small clients for me, probably the WebDNA developers with = large clients would not use this, so I think it opens up a market for = smaller businesses. If a particular application needs PHP I guess that = is a reason to say you need to have a Cloud based solution. But there = are so many things that can be done just with WebDNA alone it would = certainly open up my markets. >=20 > Thanks for considering. >=20 > Frank >=20 > On Nov 28, 2013, at 8:29 PM, christophe.billiottet@webdna.us wrote: >=20 > > Hi Frank! how would you see that? a kind of =93WebDNA + built-in web = server=94 in one single binary? or a pre-built WebDNA + webserver = installation? > >=20 > >=20 > > - chris > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > > On Nov 28, 2013, at 5:02 PM, C. Frank Wolfe = wrote: > >=20 > >> Since I don=92t seem to be the only one up at this hour (4 am in = Hawaii), does anyone else think it would be a GREAT idea to have a = runtime version or WebDNA, or an App that you could run on a single = computer? I have clients that I could do so much with, but they won=92t = put data on the internet even with a secure server. > >>=20 > >> I supposed it would have to have a little web server built in, but = it would be so much easier than convincing some of these companies to = install ISS or whatever on their network or adding a box just for = WebDNA. A network version would be even better, and I would pay for = those each and every time and bill the client. One price for a single = computer, more for the network version. > >>=20 > >> Christophe/Donovan? > >>=20 > >> Hopefully, > >>=20 > >> Frank > >>=20 > >> --------------------------------------------------------- This = message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . = To unsubscribe, E-mail to: archives: = http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us Bug Reporting: = support@webdna.us > >=20 >=20 >=20 > --------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us > Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us > --------------------------------------------------------- This message = is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To = unsubscribe, E-mail to: archives: = http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us Bug Reporting: = support@webdna.us --Apple-Mail=_75F1D540-7D7E-46DC-80D3-7F8F7F44D4D4 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Dan,

That=92s an interesting = idea.  Then I would not have to deal with the network manager at = all. 

Although, I=92d still have to = install some server software, and I am so tired of dealing with server = issues.  I just want to program. (I bet I=92m not the first to say = that. = LOL)

Thanks,

Frank
=

On Nov 29, 2013, at 8:07 AM, Dan Strong <dan@danstrong.com> = wrote:

Why not run a WebDNA install inside of a = Virtual box = image?

-Dan


Sent from phone.


-------- = Original message --------
From: "C. Frank Wolfe" =
Date:11/29/2013 1:32 AM (GMT-08:00)
To: talk@webdna.us
Subject: Re: = [WebDNA] WebDNA app

I vote single binary as well.  Looks = like there is some interest. 

Licensing would have to still = phone home I guess to verify serial number as I think Web Catalog = did.

It=92s not that these machines don=92t have internet access, = it=92s that some clients don=92t want their data in the cloud, and = telling them I have to install a web server on a stand along PC, or = their network server, and then I have to deal with their network = manager, it just gets into too many issues for them, they don=92t = understand, and they and don=92t want to buy what they don=92t = understand.  If I say, well I just have to install one app, it=92s = easy to sell. Hey, it=92s just like installing Office. That they = understand.

Ideally I would be able to install on the office file = server as well.  Maybe you could sell licenses by number of = users?

These are small clients for me, probably the WebDNA = developers with large clients would not use this, so I think it opens up = a market for smaller businesses.  If a particular application needs = PHP I guess that is a reason to say you need to have a Cloud based = solution. But there are so many things that can be done just with WebDNA = alone it would certainly open up my markets.

Thanks for = considering.

Frank

On Nov 28, 2013, at 8:29 PM, christophe.billiottet@webd= na.us wrote:

> Hi Frank! how would you see that? a kind of = =93WebDNA + built-in web server=94 in one single binary? or a pre-built = WebDNA + webserver installation?
>
>
> - = chris
>
>
>
> On Nov 28, 2013, at 5:02 PM, C. = Frank Wolfe <frank@cwolfe.com> wrote:
> =
>> Since I don=92t seem to be the only one up at this hour (4 = am in Hawaii), does anyone else think it would be a GREAT idea to have a = runtime version or WebDNA, or an App that you could run on a single = computer?  I have clients that I could do so much with, but they = won=92t put data on the internet even with a secure server.
>> =
>> I supposed it would have to have a little web server built = in, but it would be so much easier than convincing some of these = companies to install ISS or whatever on their network or adding a box = just for WebDNA.  A network version would be even better, and I = would pay for those each and every time and bill the client.  One = price for a single computer, more for the network version.
>> =
>> Christophe/Donovan?
>>
>> = Hopefully,
>>
>> Frank
>>
>> = --------------------------------------------------------- This message = is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To = unsubscribe, E-mail to: archives: http://mail.webdna.us/l= ist/talk@webdna.us Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us
> =


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--Apple-Mail=_75F1D540-7D7E-46DC-80D3-7F8F7F44D4D4 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Dan, That=92s an interesting idea. Then I would not have to deal with the = network manager at all.=20 Although, I=92d still have to install some server software, and I am so = tired of dealing with server issues. I just want to program. (I bet I=92m= not the first to say that. LOL) Thanks, Frank On Nov 29, 2013, at 8:07 AM, Dan Strong wrote: > Why not run a WebDNA install inside of a Virtual box image? >=20 > -Dan >=20 >=20 > Sent from phone. >=20 >=20 > -------- Original message -------- > From: "C. Frank Wolfe"=20 > Date:11/29/2013 1:32 AM (GMT-08:00)=20 > To: talk@webdna.us=20 > Subject: Re: [WebDNA] WebDNA app=20 >=20 > I vote single binary as well. Looks like there is some interest. =20 >=20 > Licensing would have to still phone home I guess to verify serial = number as I think Web Catalog did. >=20 > It=92s not that these machines don=92t have internet access, it=92s = that some clients don=92t want their data in the cloud, and telling them = I have to install a web server on a stand along PC, or their network = server, and then I have to deal with their network manager, it just gets = into too many issues for them, they don=92t understand, and they and = don=92t want to buy what they don=92t understand. If I say, well I just = have to install one app, it=92s easy to sell. Hey, it=92s just like = installing Office. That they understand. >=20 > Ideally I would be able to install on the office file server as well. = Maybe you could sell licenses by number of users? >=20 > These are small clients for me, probably the WebDNA developers with = large clients would not use this, so I think it opens up a market for = smaller businesses. If a particular application needs PHP I guess that = is a reason to say you need to have a Cloud based solution. But there = are so many things that can be done just with WebDNA alone it would = certainly open up my markets. >=20 > Thanks for considering. >=20 > Frank >=20 > On Nov 28, 2013, at 8:29 PM, christophe.billiottet@webdna.us wrote: >=20 > > Hi Frank! how would you see that? a kind of =93WebDNA + built-in web = server=94 in one single binary? or a pre-built WebDNA + webserver = installation? > >=20 > >=20 > > - chris > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > > On Nov 28, 2013, at 5:02 PM, C. Frank Wolfe = wrote: > >=20 > >> Since I don=92t seem to be the only one up at this hour (4 am in = Hawaii), does anyone else think it would be a GREAT idea to have a = runtime version or WebDNA, or an App that you could run on a single = computer? I have clients that I could do so much with, but they won=92t = put data on the internet even with a secure server. > >>=20 > >> I supposed it would have to have a little web server built in, but = it would be so much easier than convincing some of these companies to = install ISS or whatever on their network or adding a box just for = WebDNA. A network version would be even better, and I would pay for = those each and every time and bill the client. One price for a single = computer, more for the network version. > >>=20 > >> Christophe/Donovan? > >>=20 > >> Hopefully, > >>=20 > >> Frank > >>=20 > >> --------------------------------------------------------- This = message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . = To unsubscribe, E-mail to: archives: = http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us Bug Reporting: = support@webdna.us > >=20 >=20 >=20 > --------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us > Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us > --------------------------------------------------------- This message = is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To = unsubscribe, E-mail to: archives: = http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us Bug Reporting: = support@webdna.us --Apple-Mail=_75F1D540-7D7E-46DC-80D3-7F8F7F44D4D4 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Dan,

That=92s an interesting = idea.  Then I would not have to deal with the network manager at = all. 

Although, I=92d still have to = install some server software, and I am so tired of dealing with server = issues.  I just want to program. (I bet I=92m not the first to say = that. = LOL)

Thanks,

Frank
=

On Nov 29, 2013, at 8:07 AM, Dan Strong <dan@danstrong.com> = wrote:

Why not run a WebDNA install inside of a = Virtual box = image?

-Dan


Sent from phone.


-------- = Original message --------
From: "C. Frank Wolfe" =
Date:11/29/2013 1:32 AM (GMT-08:00)
To: talk@webdna.us
Subject: Re: = [WebDNA] WebDNA app

I vote single binary as well.  Looks = like there is some interest. 

Licensing would have to still = phone home I guess to verify serial number as I think Web Catalog = did.

It=92s not that these machines don=92t have internet access, = it=92s that some clients don=92t want their data in the cloud, and = telling them I have to install a web server on a stand along PC, or = their network server, and then I have to deal with their network = manager, it just gets into too many issues for them, they don=92t = understand, and they and don=92t want to buy what they don=92t = understand.  If I say, well I just have to install one app, it=92s = easy to sell. Hey, it=92s just like installing Office. That they = understand.

Ideally I would be able to install on the office file = server as well.  Maybe you could sell licenses by number of = users?

These are small clients for me, probably the WebDNA = developers with large clients would not use this, so I think it opens up = a market for smaller businesses.  If a particular application needs = PHP I guess that is a reason to say you need to have a Cloud based = solution. But there are so many things that can be done just with WebDNA = alone it would certainly open up my markets.

Thanks for = considering.

Frank

On Nov 28, 2013, at 8:29 PM, christophe.billiottet@webd= na.us wrote:

> Hi Frank! how would you see that? a kind of = =93WebDNA + built-in web server=94 in one single binary? or a pre-built = WebDNA + webserver installation?
>
>
> - = chris
>
>
>
> On Nov 28, 2013, at 5:02 PM, C. = Frank Wolfe <frank@cwolfe.com> wrote:
> =
>> Since I don=92t seem to be the only one up at this hour (4 = am in Hawaii), does anyone else think it would be a GREAT idea to have a = runtime version or WebDNA, or an App that you could run on a single = computer?  I have clients that I could do so much with, but they = won=92t put data on the internet even with a secure server.
>> =
>> I supposed it would have to have a little web server built = in, but it would be so much easier than convincing some of these = companies to install ISS or whatever on their network or adding a box = just for WebDNA.  A network version would be even better, and I = would pay for those each and every time and bill the client.  One = price for a single computer, more for the network version.
>> =
>> Christophe/Donovan?
>>
>> = Hopefully,
>>
>> Frank
>>
>> = --------------------------------------------------------- This message = is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To = unsubscribe, E-mail to: archives: http://mail.webdna.us/l= ist/talk@webdna.us Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us
> =


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