Re: [WebDNA] Sendmail BCC bug still exists

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texte = 1014--Apple-Mail=_1DCAEC7A-45F5-45B2-9371-B8F73611681BContent-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printableContent-Type: text/plain;charset=utf-8After commenting myself on this problem back on 29/5/2015 I fell into =the trap yesterday of trying to debug corrupted emails being sent.1) Has the problem been fixed in latest MySQL compatible WebDNA Server =Edition ?2) Are there any work-arounds? I did see something about moving the &bcc =further up the SENDMAIL command.Kind regardsStuart TremainPharoah Lane SoftwareAUSTRALIAwebdna@idfk.com.au> On 4 Jun 2015, at 12:23, Diane Blackmore wrote:>=20> Hi all,>=20> Just like to weigh in on this one, as I had thought the problem was =related to the BCC field but am now not so sure. I do know that I use =writefile to write my emails to the global mail folder rather than using =sendmail, as there=E2=80=99s a lot more flexibility, but the issue as =described by myself (Thread commencing 20/03/2015 =E2=80=98Emailer =breaking format') and Brian Burtons email (response to Thread 29/05/2015 ==E2=80=98Serious sendmail problems in 8.02 and 8.1) seem to reveal the =same problem.>=20> I am still using WebDNA Server 6.2.1 with Apache 2 on Ubuntu 12.04.5 =LTS (GNU/Linux 3.12.27-xenU x86_64)>=20> It=E2=80=99s a bugger that the problem is seriously intermittent. I =can go for a couple of days without issue, then get several together, =then fine again=E2=80=A6 or sometimes corrupt ones sprinkled through the =day. Unfortunately I can=E2=80=99t turn off the BCC to test whether its =actually the cause, as then I wouldn=E2=80=99t be able to see (haha) the =result. (Receipts are being sent to a client=E2=80=99s customers so I =can=E2=80=99t add my address to the To or CC fields).>=20> Was planning to upgrade to 8.X, but now wonder if that=E2=80=99s going =to solve the problem given that complaints are coming from this version =too.>=20> I note that the email is fine before the send and after, so its =clearly something in the Emailer itself. Has the Emailer been overhauled =in recent versions of WebDNA, or it is just resupplied with each new =version release?=20>=20>=20> Thanks,>=20> > >> On 29/05/2015, at 8:00 am, christophe.billiottet@webdna.us = wrote:>>=20>> Noted. We will check this and fix it for 8.1.1>>=20>> - chris>>=20>>=20>>> On May 28, 2015, at 21:01, Kenneth Grome > wrote:>>>=20>>> This bug was reported by Diane Blackwell on 31 Oct 2012 but I>>> could not find any replies to her bug report in the archives, nor>>> can I recall WSC saying they fixed this problem:>>>=20>>>> Have found a bug with the emailer in WebDNA_6.2.1_x86_64deb. It>>>> works fine without the BCC line, but when a BCC line is added,>>>> it sends the email with (oh here they are) random characters in>>>> the 'to' address, no subject and three repeating lines of code>>>> from the body.>>>=20>>> This bug still exists in both 8.02 and 8.1 on my latest Ubuntu>>> 14.04 server.>>>=20>>> I guess there's no sense in my asking for an earlier version of>>> 8.x to see if it exists on those versions. After all, if this bug>>> has existed since 6.2.1 then it only makes sense that it still>>> exists in all versions since.>>>=20>>> However, this is a bizarre situation because I was using 8.1 on>>> another Ubuntu 14.04 server and it was working perfectly fine with>>> a bcc field in most of my [sendmail] tags. So it seems that this>>> is not a problem on all servers.>>>=20>>> I moved the website from that server to a new server last week.>>> That's when this problem started. I cannot explain why it>>> suddenly appeared on the new server without ever appearing on the>>> old server, but now my client wonders if I can fix it -- and right>>> now my only apparent option is to remove the bcc field from every>>> [sendmail] context on the new server. Not a desirable task to say>>> the least ... and not something that should be necessary given the>>> fact that we are supposed to be able to use any headers we feel>>> like using in our [sendmail] tags, theoretically without causing>>> WebDNA's internal code to create such problems!>>>=20>>> It seems like something must be wrong with the internal code that>>> generates email messages from our email files. This is why I>>> think we need the C++ programmer of WebDNA to figure out what>>> might be causing this problem. Maybe he can track it down and>>> squash this bug some day soon?>>>=20>>> My problem is very much as Diane described it:>>>=20>>> Sendmail mucks up the message when using a bcc field. In my case>>> it sometimes causes the subject field to be blank while other>>> times it just screws up the subject text ... and it always seems>>> to screw up the body of the message, sometimes repeating sections>>> of text 2-3 times or leaving sections out entirely.>>>=20>>> HELP!!!>>>=20>>> Regards,>>> Kenneth Grome>>> WebDNA Solutions>>> http://www.webdnasolutions.com >>> Web Database Systems and Linux Server Administration>>> --------------------------------------------------------->>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to>>> the mailing list .>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us>>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us>>=20>> --------------------------------------------------------->> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to>> the mailing list >.>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us =>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >>=20>>=20>=20> --------------------------------------------------------- This message =is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To =unsubscribe, E-mail to: archives: =http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us Bug Reporting: =support@webdna.us--Apple-Mail=_1DCAEC7A-45F5-45B2-9371-B8F73611681BContent-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printableContent-Type: text/html;charset=utf-8After commenting myself on this problem back on 29/5/2015 I =fell into the trap yesterday of trying to debug corrupted emails being =sent.

1) Has the =problem been fixed in latest MySQL compatible WebDNA Server Edition =?

2) Are there =any work-arounds? I did see something about moving the &bcc further =up the SENDMAIL command.

Kind regards

Stuart Tremain

Pharoah Lane Software

AUSTRALIA

webdna@idfk.com.au

On 4 Jun 2015, at 12:23, Diane Blackmore <diane@cohesion.co.nz> wrote:

Hi all,

Just like to weigh in on =this one, as I had thought the problem was related to the BCC field but =am now not so sure. I do know that I use writefile to write my emails to =the global mail folder rather than using sendmail, as there=E2=80=99s a =lot more flexibility, but the issue as described by myself (Thread =commencing 20/03/2015 =E2=80=98Emailer breaking format') and Brian =Burtons email (response to Thread 29/05/2015 =E2=80=98Serious sendmail =problems in 8.02 and 8.1) seem to reveal the same problem.

I am still using WebDNA =Server 6.2.1 with Apache 2 on Ubuntu 12.04.5 LTS (GNU/Linux =3.12.27-xenU x86_64)

It=E2=80=99s a bugger that the problem is seriously =intermittent. I can go for a couple of days without issue, then get =several together, then fine again=E2=80=A6 or sometimes corrupt ones =sprinkled through the day. Unfortunately I can=E2=80=99t turn off the =BCC to test whether its actually the cause, as then I wouldn=E2=80=99t =be able to see (haha) the result. (Receipts are being sent to a =client=E2=80=99s customers so I can=E2=80=99t add my address to the To =or CC fields).

Was planning to upgrade to 8.X, but now wonder if that=E2=80=99=s going to solve the problem given that complaints are coming from this =version too.

I =note that the email is fine before the send and after, so its clearly =something in the Emailer itself. Has the Emailer been overhauled in =recent versions of WebDNA, or it is just resupplied with each new =version release?

Thanks,

<CohesionSig_Diane12.gi=f>

On 29/05/2015, at 8:00 am, christophe.billiottet@webdna.us wrote:

Noted. We will check =this and fix it for 8.1.1

- chris

On May 28, 2015, at 21:01, Kenneth Grome <ken@webdnasolutions.com> wrote:

This bug was reported by Diane Blackwell on 31 Oct 2012 but =I
could not find any replies to her bug report in the =archives, nor
can I recall WSC saying they fixed this =problem:

Have found a bug with the emailer in WebDNA_6.2.1_x86_64deb. =It
works fine without the BCC line, but when a BCC line is =added,
it sends the email with (oh here they are) random =characters in
the 'to' address, no subject and three =repeating lines of code
from the body.

This bug still exists in both =8.02 and 8.1 on my latest Ubuntu
14.04 server.

I guess there's no sense in my asking for an =earlier version of
8.x to see if it exists on those =versions. After all, if this bug
has existed since =6.2.1 then it only makes sense that it still
exists in all =versions since.

However, this is a bizarre =situation because I was using 8.1 on
another Ubuntu 14.04 =server and it was working perfectly fine with
a bcc field =in most of my [sendmail] tags. So it seems that this
is not a problem on all servers.

I= moved the website from that server to a new server last week.
That's when this problem started. I cannot explain why =it
suddenly appeared on the new server without ever =appearing on the
old server, but now my client wonders if =I can fix it -- and right
now my only apparent option is =to remove the bcc field from every
[sendmail] context on =the new server. Not a desirable task to say
the =least ... and not something that should be necessary given the
fact that we are supposed to be able to use any headers we =feel
like using in our [sendmail] tags, theoretically =without causing
WebDNA's internal code to create such =problems!

It seems like something must be =wrong with the internal code that
generates email messages =from our email files. This is why I
think we need =the C++ programmer of WebDNA to figure out what
might be =causing this problem. Maybe he can track it down and
squash this bug some day soon?

My =problem is very much as Diane described it:

Sendmail mucks up the message when using a bcc field. = In my case
it sometimes causes the subject field to =be blank while other
times it just screws up the subject =text ... and it always seems
to screw up the body of the =message, sometimes repeating sections
of text 2-3 times or =leaving sections out entirely.

HELP!!!

Regards,
Kenneth Grome
WebDNA Solutions
http://www.webdnasolutions.com
Web Database =Systems and Linux Server Administration
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Re: [WebDNA] Sendmail BCC bug still exists (Stuart Tremain 2017)
Re: [WebDNA] Sendmail BCC bug still exists (Kenneth Grome 2015)
Re: [WebDNA] Sendmail BCC bug still exists (Diane Blackmore 2015)
Re: [WebDNA] Sendmail BCC bug still exists (Kenneth Grome 2015)
Re: [WebDNA] Sendmail BCC bug still exists (christophe.billiottet@webdna.us 2015)
Re: [WebDNA] Sendmail BCC bug still exists (Stuart Tremain 2015)
Re: [WebDNA] Sendmail BCC bug still exists (Kenneth Grome 2015)
Re: [WebDNA] Sendmail BCC bug still exists (christophe.billiottet@webdna.us 2015)
[WebDNA] Sendmail BCC bug still exists (Kenneth Grome 2015)

1014--Apple-Mail=_1DCAEC7A-45F5-45B2-9371-B8F73611681BContent-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printableContent-Type: text/plain;charset=utf-8After commenting myself on this problem back on 29/5/2015 I fell into =the trap yesterday of trying to debug corrupted emails being sent.1) Has the problem been fixed in latest MySQL compatible WebDNA Server =Edition ?2) Are there any work-arounds? I did see something about moving the &bcc =further up the SENDMAIL command.Kind regardsStuart TremainPharoah Lane SoftwareAUSTRALIAwebdna@idfk.com.au> On 4 Jun 2015, at 12:23, Diane Blackmore wrote:>=20> Hi all,>=20> Just like to weigh in on this one, as I had thought the problem was =related to the BCC field but am now not so sure. I do know that I use =writefile to write my emails to the global mail folder rather than using =sendmail, as there=E2=80=99s a lot more flexibility, but the issue as =described by myself (Thread commencing 20/03/2015 =E2=80=98Emailer =breaking format') and Brian Burtons email (response to Thread 29/05/2015 ==E2=80=98Serious sendmail problems in 8.02 and 8.1) seem to reveal the =same problem.>=20> I am still using WebDNA Server 6.2.1 with Apache 2 on Ubuntu 12.04.5 =LTS (GNU/Linux 3.12.27-xenU x86_64)>=20> It=E2=80=99s a bugger that the problem is seriously intermittent. I =can go for a couple of days without issue, then get several together, =then fine again=E2=80=A6 or sometimes corrupt ones sprinkled through the =day. Unfortunately I can=E2=80=99t turn off the BCC to test whether its =actually the cause, as then I wouldn=E2=80=99t be able to see (haha) the =result. (Receipts are being sent to a client=E2=80=99s customers so I =can=E2=80=99t add my address to the To or CC fields).>=20> Was planning to upgrade to 8.X, but now wonder if that=E2=80=99s going =to solve the problem given that complaints are coming from this version =too.>=20> I note that the email is fine before the send and after, so its =clearly something in the Emailer itself. Has the Emailer been overhauled =in recent versions of WebDNA, or it is just resupplied with each new =version release?=20>=20>=20> Thanks,>=20> > >> On 29/05/2015, at 8:00 am, christophe.billiottet@webdna.us = wrote:>>=20>> Noted. We will check this and fix it for 8.1.1>>=20>> - chris>>=20>>=20>>> On May 28, 2015, at 21:01, Kenneth Grome > wrote:>>>=20>>> This bug was reported by Diane Blackwell on 31 Oct 2012 but I>>> could not find any replies to her bug report in the archives, nor>>> can I recall WSC saying they fixed this problem:>>>=20>>>> Have found a bug with the emailer in WebDNA_6.2.1_x86_64deb. It>>>> works fine without the BCC line, but when a BCC line is added,>>>> it sends the email with (oh here they are) random characters in>>>> the 'to' address, no subject and three repeating lines of code>>>> from the body.>>>=20>>> This bug still exists in both 8.02 and 8.1 on my latest Ubuntu>>> 14.04 server.>>>=20>>> I guess there's no sense in my asking for an earlier version of>>> 8.x to see if it exists on those versions. After all, if this bug>>> has existed since 6.2.1 then it only makes sense that it still>>> exists in all versions since.>>>=20>>> However, this is a bizarre situation because I was using 8.1 on>>> another Ubuntu 14.04 server and it was working perfectly fine with>>> a bcc field in most of my [sendmail] tags. So it seems that this>>> is not a problem on all servers.>>>=20>>> I moved the website from that server to a new server last week.>>> That's when this problem started. I cannot explain why it>>> suddenly appeared on the new server without ever appearing on the>>> old server, but now my client wonders if I can fix it -- and right>>> now my only apparent option is to remove the bcc field from every>>> [sendmail] context on the new server. Not a desirable task to say>>> the least ... and not something that should be necessary given the>>> fact that we are supposed to be able to use any headers we feel>>> like using in our [sendmail] tags, theoretically without causing>>> WebDNA's internal code to create such problems!>>>=20>>> It seems like something must be wrong with the internal code that>>> generates email messages from our email files. This is why I>>> think we need the C++ programmer of WebDNA to figure out what>>> might be causing this problem. Maybe he can track it down and>>> squash this bug some day soon?>>>=20>>> My problem is very much as Diane described it:>>>=20>>> Sendmail mucks up the message when using a bcc field. In my case>>> it sometimes causes the subject field to be blank while other>>> times it just screws up the subject text ... and it always seems>>> to screw up the body of the message, sometimes repeating sections>>> of text 2-3 times or leaving sections out entirely.>>>=20>>> HELP!!!>>>=20>>> Regards,>>> Kenneth Grome>>> WebDNA Solutions>>> http://www.webdnasolutions.com >>> Web Database Systems and Linux Server Administration>>> --------------------------------------------------------->>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to>>> the mailing list .>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us>>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us>>=20>> --------------------------------------------------------->> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to>> the mailing list >.>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us =>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >>=20>>=20>=20> --------------------------------------------------------- This message =is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To =unsubscribe, E-mail to: archives: =http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us Bug Reporting: =support@webdna.us--Apple-Mail=_1DCAEC7A-45F5-45B2-9371-B8F73611681BContent-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printableContent-Type: text/html;charset=utf-8After commenting myself on this problem back on 29/5/2015 I =fell into the trap yesterday of trying to debug corrupted emails being =sent.