Re: Smith Micro - no competition
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texte = At 8:57 AM -0800 1/25/00, Jeff Logan wrote:>Big deal if Smith Micro wants to do ecommerce business along with the>rest of us.It's a very big deal, because it means that SM will be diverting resourcesaway from the development and support of WebCatalog in order to grow theirweb development business.If SM was being smart about this, they would outsource the web developmentwork (I think we all know where they could find some competentsubcontractors :-) and focus internal resources on providing thosecontractors -- and other WebCat users -- with the tools and support theyneed to produce top-quality results.The most disconcerting aspect of all this is the complete lack of SMresponse to recent discontent on this list. If the charges being made herewere wildly off-base, one would expect them to at least issue a rebuttal.Their silence speaks volumes.-DaveAt 8:57 AM -0800 1/25/00, Jeff Logan wrote:>Big deal if Smith Micro wants to do ecommerce business along with the>rest of us. Do you not have enough faith in your own products and>services? Is there not enough business to go around? I do have>faith in my products and services, and I welcome Smith Micro into the>business. This should helps all of us because they will see what>changes need to be done to WebCat to better suit there needs are ours.>>Just my thoughts,>Jeff Logan>>>>>I dont get it, what difference does who hosts the list make?>>>>The regular 'experts' on this list (and i thank god for them>>every day) are the best support mech SM has currently for>>webcat and TP etc as far as i can tell.>>>>if these non-paid experts provide help instead of SM for the>>vast majority of webcat users, SM gets one hell of a benefit.>>basically SM gets a free support department.>>>>so what difference does it make if the experts provide that>>support here or on another list? SM still gets the benefit>>of not having to support the product themselves.>>>>this leads to an ugly option: have the non-paid experts>>stop providing help on any list and let SM be responsiable>>for it all.>>>>i am not saying its a good idea, but where they give the support>>seems to make little difference if you ask me, still the same>>outcome for SM.>>>>blake>>>>>>>>>>>>Therio, Dale wrote the following, 1/25/00 11:32 AM:>>>>>I would be willing to host it on my CGatePro server.>>>>>>Mit freundlichen Grüßen / Best Regards>>>>>>Dale Therio>>>>>>Dresdner Kleinwort Benson Research>>>Jürgen-Ponto-Platz, 1>>>Frankfurt, Germany>>>+49 (0) 69 263 19977 - phone>>>+49 (0) 69 263 11379 - fax>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----->>>> From: The Mooseman [SMTP:frederickslists@mooseweb.com]>>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2000 17:25>>>> To: WebDNA-Talk@talk.smithmicro.com>>>> Subject: Re: Meet your competition>>>>>>>> What about doing our own talk-help list and divorce it from SM>>>> if they are going to work both sides of the street?>>>>------------------------------------------------------------->>Brought to you by CommuniGate Pro - The Buzz Word Compliant Messaging Server.>>To end your Mail problems go to
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At 8:57 AM -0800 1/25/00, Jeff Logan wrote:>Big deal if Smith Micro wants to do ecommerce business along with the>rest of us.It's a very big deal, because it means that SM will be diverting resourcesaway from the development and support of WebCatalog in order to grow theirweb development business.If SM was being smart about this, they would outsource the web developmentwork (I think we all know where they could find some competentsubcontractors :-) and focus internal resources on providing thosecontractors -- and other WebCat users -- with the tools and support theyneed to produce top-quality results.The most disconcerting aspect of all this is the complete lack of SMresponse to recent discontent on this list. If the charges being made herewere wildly off-base, one would expect them to at least issue a rebuttal.Their silence speaks volumes.-DaveAt 8:57 AM -0800 1/25/00, Jeff Logan wrote:>Big deal if Smith Micro wants to do ecommerce business along with the>rest of us. Do you not have enough faith in your own products and>services? Is there not enough business to go around? I do have>faith in my products and services, and I welcome Smith Micro into the>business. This should helps all of us because they will see what>changes need to be done to WebCat to better suit there needs are ours.>>Just my thoughts,>Jeff Logan>>>>>I dont get it, what difference does who hosts the list make?>>>>The regular 'experts' on this list (and i thank god for them>>every day) are the best support mech SM has currently for>>webcat and TP etc as far as i can tell.>>>>if these non-paid experts provide help instead of SM for the>>vast majority of webcat users, SM gets one hell of a benefit.>>basically SM gets a free support department.>>>>so what difference does it make if the experts provide that>>support here or on another list? SM still gets the benefit>>of not having to support the product themselves.>>>>this leads to an ugly option: have the non-paid experts>>stop providing help on any list and let SM be responsiable>>for it all.>>>>i am not saying its a good idea, but where they give the support>>seems to make little difference if you ask me, still the same>>outcome for SM.>>>>blake>>>>>>>>>>>>Therio, Dale wrote the following, 1/25/00 11:32 AM:>>>>>I would be willing to host it on my CGatePro server.>>>>>>Mit freundlichen Grüßen / Best Regards>>>>>>Dale Therio>>>>>>Dresdner Kleinwort Benson Research>>>Jürgen-Ponto-Platz, 1>>>Frankfurt, Germany>>>+49 (0) 69 263 19977 - phone>>>+49 (0) 69 263 11379 - fax>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----->>>> From: The Mooseman [SMTP:frederickslists@mooseweb.com]>>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2000 17:25>>>> To: WebDNA-Talk@talk.smithmicro.com>>>> Subject: Re: Meet your competition>>>>>>>> What about doing our own talk-help list and divorce it from SM>>>> if they are going to work both sides of the street?>>>>------------------------------------------------------------->>Brought to you by CommuniGate Pro - The Buzz Word Compliant Messaging Server.>>To end your Mail problems go to .>>>>This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to>> the mailing list .>>To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to>>>>>------------------------------------------------------------->Brought to you by CommuniGate Pro - The Buzz Word Compliant Messaging Server.>To end your Mail problems go to .>>This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to> the mailing list .>To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to>-------------------------------------------------------------Brought to you by CommuniGate Pro - The Buzz Word Compliant Messaging Server.To end your Mail problems go to .This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list .To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to
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