Re: OS X
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texte = OK, I tried not to make this confusing, but now it's going off topic and Istill haven't gotten an answer from SM. Let me rephrase:We want to buy 4.x now, However we *Will Not* pay $3,500 for a crossgrade toOS X server (now, or in the future) so will we will not buy a OS 9 versionuntil we know that a 4.x webcat version for Webstar 5 will be a *free*upgrade for current 4.x Mac OS 9 users, and not a $3,500 'crossgrade'.Right now, to go from Mac OS to OS X server costs $3,500. What I want toknow, is what happens to current Mac licenses when the current Mac OS 'goesaway'What I need to know, in a nutshell, is if we should buy a 4.x upgrade for$1,000 or web objects for $499.We have no intention of running Apache on Macs. Frankly if I wereinterested in running Apache, I'd do it on Linux, on multi-processor, faulttolerant PC server hardware that is not currently available for OS X.-AaronYour Honor; on 6/17/00 4:00 PM, the Defendant, Anita Holmgren, confessed:> At 12:18 PM 6/17/00, Bo Hess wrote:>> on 6/17/00 7:46 AM, James Howarth wrote:>> >>> The OS X version uses Apache not WebStar. I expect that the MacOS plug-in>>> for WebStar would not work on OS X.>>>> We are currently using 3.x on Webstar. Starnine has said that they will be>>>> supporting OS X when it comes out.>>>> >>>> So, if we get a mac os 9 webcat 4.x version, will we be able to migrate it>>>> to OS X when webstar ships?>> >> He is talking about OS X consumer not OS X server. Consumer won't have>> apache or any other parts of the server, as far as I've heard. Those are>> supposed to be in a service pack that you install to upgrade to server.>> > > OS X (consumer as you call it) will include Apache.> > http://www.apple.com/macosx/inside.html> We also took the famous Apache web server-which runs over half the> websites on the Internet-and made it friendly enough to use on your> desktop for personal file sharing.> > -Anita-------------------------------------------------------------This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list
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- Re: Warning: Mac OS X 10.2.4 Update Overwrites Apache's (Alain Russell 2003)
- Re: Warning: Mac OS X 10.2.4 Update Overwrites Apache'shttpd.conf (Stuart Tremain 2003)
- Re: Warning: Mac OS X 10.2.4 Update Overwrites Apache's (Stuart Tremain 2003)
- Re: Warning: Mac OS X 10.2.4 Update Overwrites Apache's (Alain Russell 2003)
- Re: Warning: Mac OS X 10.2.4 Update Overwrites Apache's (Stuart Tremain 2003)
- Re: Warning: Mac OS X 10.2.4 Update Overwrites Apache's (Alain Russell 2003)
- Re: Warning: Mac OS X 10.2.4 Update Overwrites Apache'shttpd.conf (Stuart Tremain 2003)
- Re: Warning: Mac OS X 10.2.4 Update Overwrites Apache's (Charles Kline 2003)
- Re: Warning: Mac OS X 10.2.4 Update Overwrites Apache's (Alain Russell 2003)
- Re: Warning: Mac OS X 10.2.4 Update Overwrites Apache's (Charles Kline 2003)
- Re: Warning: Mac OS X 10.2.4 Update Overwrites Apache's (Alain Russell 2003)
- Re: Warning: Mac OS X 10.2.4 Update Overwrites Apache'shttpd.conf (Charles Kline 2003)
- Warning: Mac OS X 10.2.4 Update Overwrites Apache's httpd.conf (Sal D'anna 2003)
- Re: emailer problem on OS X - unsent emails (Paul Willis 2003)
- emailer problem on OS X - unsent emails (Paul Willis 2003)
- Re: Mac OS X problem (Le Pham 2003)
- Mac OS X problem (Li Yang 2003)
- Re: MacOS X 10.2.2 (Donovan 2002)
- Re: MacOS X 10.2.2 (Donovan 2002)
- Re: MacOS X 10.2.2 (Alain Russell 2002)
- MacOS X 10.2.2 (Nitai @ ComputerOil 2002)
- Re: Emailer in the Process Viewer, under MacOS X (Alain Russell 2002)
- Emailer in the Process Viewer, under MacOS X (Claude Gelinas 2002)
- Re: About the cache management in Webstar V, under OS X (Alain Russell 2002)
- About the cache management in Webstar V, under OS X (Claude Gelinas 2002)
- Re: Mac OS X ODBC (Alain Russell 2002)
- Re: Non HTML file protection - OS X (webstar or apache) (Dan Keldsen 2002)
- Re: Mac OS X ODBC (Jay Van Vark 2002)
- Mac OS X ODBC (Alain Russell 2002)
- Re: Non HTML file protection - OS X (webstar or apache) (Aaron Lynch 2002)
- Re: Non HTML file protection - OS X (webstar or apache) (Dan Keldsen 2002)
- Re: Non HTML file protection - OS X (webstar or apache) (Aaron Lynch 2002)
- Non HTML file protection - OS X (webstar or apache) (Dan Keldsen 2002)
- Re: OS X and Emailer (Michael Davis 2002)
- Re: OS X and Emailer (Alain Russell 2002)
- Re: OS X and Emailer (Michael Davis 2002)
- Re: OS X and Emailer (John Peacock 2002)
- Re: OS X and Emailer (Michael Davis 2002)
- Re: OS X and Emailer (Alain Russell 2002)
- OS X and Emailer (Clint Davis 2002)
- Re: File upload in Mac OS X - fixed (Paul Willis 2002)
- Re: File upload in Mac OS X (Dan Strong 2002)
- Re: File upload in Mac OS X (Brian Fries 2002)
- File upload in Mac OS X (Paul Willis 2002)
- Email Not Going out (OS X Jag Client) (Michael Davis 2002)
- Re: Cloning OS X (Alain Russell 2002)
- Cloning OS X (Marc Kaiwi 2002)
- Re: Linux -> OS X (Alain Russell 2002)
- Re: Linux -> OS X (Aaron Lynch 2002)
- Re: Linux -> OS X (Jesse Williams-Proudman 2002)
- Re: Linux -> OS X (John Peacock 2002)
- Re: Linux -> OS X (Jesse Williams-Proudman 2002)
- Re: Linux -> OS X (John Peacock 2002)
- Re: Linux -> OS X (Jim Lanford 2002)
- Re: Linux -> OS X (John Peacock 2002)
- Re: Linux -> OS X (Jesse Williams-Proudman 2002)
- Re: Linux -> OS X (Jim Lanford 2002)
- Linux -> OS X (Jesse Williams-Proudman 2002)
- OS X http.conf (Jesse Williams-Proudman 2002)
- OS X http.conf (Jesse Williams-Proudman 2002)
- Re: 4.0 Mac OS 9 -> 4.5 Mac OS X (John Peacock 2002)
- 4.0 Mac OS 9 -> 4.5 Mac OS X (Jesse Williams-Proudman 2002)
- Re: [applescript] support in 4.5 for OS X -- really? (Rob Marquardt 2002)
- Re: [applescript] support in 4.5 for OS X -- really? (Scott Anderson 2002)
- [applescript] support in 4.5 for OS X -- really? (Rob Marquardt 2002)
- Re: SMSI BUG: RandSeed broken on 4.0.2 / Mac OS X (Brian Fries 2002)
- Re: SMSI BUG: RandSeed broken on 4.0.2 / Mac OS X (Scott Anderson 2002)
- SMSI BUG: RandSeed broken on 4.0.2 / Mac OS X (Brian Fries 2002)
- RandSeed broken on 4.0.2 / Mac OS X (Brian Fries 2002)
- Re: Changing to a windows mounted share from a Mac OS X machine (Alain Russell 2002)
- Re: Changing to a windows mounted share from a Mac OS X machine (drt - lists 2002)
- Re: Changing to a windows mounted share from a Mac OS X machine (dale 2002)
- Re: Changing to a windows mounted share from a Mac OS X machine (Alain Russell 2002)
- Re: Changing to a windows mounted share from a Mac OS X machine (drt - lists 2002)
- Re: Changing to a windows mounted share from a Mac OS X machine (Alain Russell 2002)
- Changing to a windows mounted share from a Mac OS X machine (drt - lists 2002)
- Re: WebCat using all my CPU on OS X Server (multi-ohm@t-online.de (alfred @ multiple*hm) 2001)
- Re: WebCat using all my CPU on OS X Server (Palle B. Nielsen (PowerPalle) 2001)
- Re: WebCat using all my CPU on OS X Server (Alain Russell 2001)
- WebCat using all my CPU on OS X Server (Palle Bo Nielsen 2001)
- Re: WebCat and Mac OS X Server problem (Palle Bo Nielsen 2001)
- Re: WebCat and Mac OS X Server problem (Jim Lanford 2001)
- Re: OS X Permissions after upgrade (Brian Fries 2001)
- Re: OS X Permissions after upgrade (Le Pham 2001)
- OS X Permissions after upgrade (Brian Fries 2001)
- Re: Webstar V & OS X (Rui Campos 2001)
- Re: Webstar V & OS X (Karl Schroll 2001)
- Webstar V & OS X (John Sweeney 2001)
- Re: MacOS X 10.1 Upgrade Error (Nitai @ ComputerOil 2001)
- MacOS X 10.1 Upgrade Error (Clint Davis 2001)
- Re: firewall ports for Mac OS X/WebCatalog (Jimi Sweet 2001)
- Re: firewall ports for Mac OS X/WebCatalog (Paolo Coppo 2001)
- Re: firewall ports for Mac OS X/WebCatalog (Bob Minor 2001)
- Re: firewall ports for Mac OS X/WebCatalog (Jimi Sweet 2001)
- Re: firewall ports for Mac OS X/WebCatalog (Bob Minor 2001)
- firewall ports for Mac OS X/WebCatalog (Jimi Sweet 2001)
- unixODBC: WebCatalog patch available for OS X Client/Server (Scott Anderson 2001)
- Re: WebCatalog & Mac OS X (client) vs. Redhat Linux (dale 2001)
- Re: WebCatalog & Mac OS X (client) vs. Redhat Linux (Nitai @ ComputerOil 2001)
- Re: WebCatalog & Mac OS X (client) vs. Redhat Linux (Jeroen de Wijn 2001)
- Re: WebCatalog & Mac OS X (client) vs. Redhat Linux (Nitai @ ComputerOil 2001)
- Re: WebCatalog & Mac OS X (client) vs. Redhat Linux (Dale LaFountain 2001)
- Re: WebCatalog & Mac OS X (client) vs. Redhat Linux (dale 2001)
- Re: WebCatalog & Mac OS X (client) vs. Redhat Linux (Jeroen de Wijn 2001)
- Re: WebCatalog & Mac OS X (client) vs. Redhat Linux (Nitai @ ComputerOil 2001)
- WebCatalog & Mac OS X (client) vs. Redhat Linux (dale 2001)
- Re: Netscape for MacOS X (Nitai @ ComputerOil 2001)
- Re: Netscape for MacOS X (Alain Russell 2001)
- Re: Netscape for MacOS X (Nitai @ ComputerOil 2001)
- Re: Netscape for MacOS X (Alain Russell 2001)
- Re: Netscape for MacOS X (Nitai @ ComputerOil 2001)
- Netscape for MacOS X (Nitai @ ComputerOil 2001)
- Re: authorize.net CC processing (was Re: WC on Mac OS X or Mac OS (Aaron Lynch 2001)
- Re: WC on Mac OS X or Mac OS X Server 2.x (Aaron Lynch 2001)
- Re: WC on Mac OS X or Mac OS X Server 2.x (Aaron Lynch 2001)
- Re: WC on Mac OS X or Mac OS X Server 2.x (Dale LaFountain 2001)
- Re: WC on Mac OS X or Mac OS X Server 2.x (Dale Therio 2001)
- Re: WC on Mac OS X or Mac OS X Server 2.x (Dale LaFountain 2001)
- Re: WC on Mac OS X or Mac OS X Server 2.x (Clayton Randall 2001)
- Re: WC on Mac OS X or Mac OS X Server 2.x (Dale Therio 2001)
- Re: authorize.net CC processing (was Re: WC on Mac OS X or Mac OS (Rob Marquardt 2001)
- authorize.net CC processing (was Re: WC on Mac OS X or Mac OS XServer 2.x) (Terry Wilson 2001)
- Re: WC on Mac OS X or Mac OS X Server 2.x (Aaron Lynch 2001)
- Re: WC on Mac OS X or Mac OS X Server 2.x (Aaron Lynch 2001)
- Re: WC on Mac OS X or Mac OS X Server 2.x (Aaron Lynch 2001)
- Re: WC on Mac OS X or Mac OS X Server 2.x (Dale LaFountain 2001)
- Re: WC on Mac OS X or Mac OS X Server 2.x (Dale Therio 2001)
- Re: WC on Mac OS X or Mac OS X Server 2.x (Aaron Lynch 2001)
- Re: WC on Mac OS X or Mac OS X Server 2.x (Glenn Busbin 2001)
- WC on Mac OS X or Mac OS X Server 2.x (Dale Therio 2001)
- Re: MacOS X Server 1.2 Netnameserver conflict (Alain Russell 2001)
- MacOS X Server 1.2 Netnameserver conflict (multi-ohm@t-online.de (a. wippermann) 2001)
- Re: MacOS X Server problems (multi-ohm@t-online.de (a. wippermann) 2001)
- Re: MacOS X Server problems (Le Pham 2001)
- Re: MacOS X Server problems (multi-ohm@t-online.de (a. wippermann) 2001)
- Re: MacOS X Server problems (multi-ohm@t-online.de (a. wippermann) 2001)
- Re: MacOS X Server problems (multi-ohm@t-online.de (a. wippermann) 2001)
- Re: MacOS X Server problems (Le Pham 2001)
- Re: MacOS X Server problems (multi-ohm@t-online.de (a. wippermann) 2001)
- Re: MacOS X Server problems (Le Pham 2001)
- Re: MacOS X Server problems (Nitai @ ComputerOil 2001)
- Re: MacOS X Server problems (Le Pham 2001)
- MacOS X Server problems (Nitai @ ComputerOil 2001)
- Re: MacOS X Server problems (Le Pham 2001)
- Re: OS X Server & Uploads (Nitai @ ComputerOil 2001)
- Re: OS X Server & Uploads (Alain Russell 2001)
- OS X Server & Uploads (Patrick O'Brien 2001)
- Re: Webcatalog 4.02b5 Mac OS X headers (Bob Minor 2000)
- Re: Webcatalog 4.02b5 Mac OS X headers (Britt T. 2000)
- Re: Webcatalog 4.02b5 Mac OS X headers (Bob Minor 2000)
- Re: Webcatalog 4.02b5 Mac OS X headers (Britt T. 2000)
- Re: Webcatalog 4.02b5 Mac OS X headers (Bob Minor 2000)
- Webcatalog 4.02b5 Mac OS X headers (Hjalti áQ== Lava 2000)
- Re: Using Communigate Pro on Mac OS X Server (Dale 2000)
- Using Communigate Pro on Mac OS X Server (john clark 2000)
- Re: Template cache problem with WC4 on Mac OS X (Nitai @ Eyework 2000)
- Re: Template cache problem with WC4 on Mac OS X (Glenn Busbin 2000)
- Re: Template cache problem with WC4 on Mac OS X (Nitai @ Eyework 2000)
- Re: Template cache problem with WC4 on Mac OS X (Webcat 2000)
- Re: Template cache problem with WC4 on Mac OS X (Wyatt 2000)
- Re: Template cache problem with WC4 on Mac OS X (Jason Tyler 2000)
- Template cache problem with WC4 on Mac OS X (Wyatt 2000)
- Re: OS X (Joseph D'Andrea 2000)
- Re: OS X (Aaron Lynch 2000)
- Re: OS X (anita@tenon.com (Anita Holmgren) 2000)
- Re: OS X (Aaron Lynch 2000)
- Re: OS X (J. Lane 2000)
- Re: OS X (Bo Hess 2000)
- Re: OS X (James Howarth 2000)
- OS X (Aaron Lynch 2000)
- Re: [Case] on OS X (John Peacock 2000)
- Re: [Case] on OS X (Pat McCormick 2000)
- Re: [Case] on OS X (John Peacock 2000)
- Re: [Case] on OS X (Grant Hulbert 2000)
- [Case] on OS X (Pat McCormick 2000)
- beta 5 - OS X [replacefounditems] syntax & suggestion (Pat McCormick 2000)
- beta 5 - OS X install issue (Pat McCormick 2000)
- Re: WebCat Mac OS X and Encrypt Help Need (dale@gmr.dresdner.net 2000)
- WebCat Mac OS X and Encrypt Help Need (Palle Bo Nielsen 2000)
- Crypted pages on Mac OS X Server (Hjalti áQ== Lava 2000)
- Re: WebCatalog-3.0800 on Mac OS X Server (Nitai @ Eyework 2000)
- WebCatalog-3.0800 on Mac OS X Server (Karim Ardalan 2000)
- Re: os x server (GHulbert@smithmicro.com 2000)
- Re: os x server (Mykeal Pitts 2000)
- Re[3]: ftp access on Macos X (jpeacock@univpress.com 2000)
- Re: ftp access on Macos X (Clement Ross 2000)
- Re[2]: ftp access on Macos X (Paul Uttermohlen 2000)
- Re[2]: ftp access on Macos X (jpeacock@univpress.com 2000)
- Re: ftp access on Macos X (Nitai @ Eyework 2000)
- Re: ftp access on Macos X (Michael O Shea 2000)
- ftp access on Macos X (Nitai @ Eyework 2000)
- Re: Off Topic: MacOS X Server on iMac (anita@tenon.com (Anita Holmgren) 2000)
- Re: Off Topic: MacOS X Server on iMac (WebDNA Support 2000)
- Off Topic: MacOS X Server on iMac (Alex Cheparev 2000)
- Re: carts on MacOS X Server (James Howarth 2000)
- Re: carts on MacOS X Server (John Butler 2000)
- Re: carts on MacOS X Server (oops) (Clement Ross 2000)
- Re: carts on MacOS X Server (Clement Ross 2000)
- Re: carts on MacOS X Server (Peter Ostry 2000)
- carts on MacOS X Server (Nitai 2000)
- Re: OS X problem: when using [ShowCart] or [orderfile]... (Doug Hardman 2000)
- Re: OS X problem: when using [ShowCart] or [orderfile]... (Eric Ridgley 2000)
- Re: OS X problem: when using [ShowCart] or [orderfile]... (Kenneth Grome 2000)
- Re: OS X problem: when using [ShowCart] or [orderfile]... (Glenn Busbin 2000)
- Re: OS X problem: when using [ShowCart] or [orderfile]... (Eric Ridgley 2000)
- Re: OS X problem: when using [ShowCart] or [orderfile]... (Kenneth Grome 2000)
- OS X problem: when using [ShowCart] or [orderfile]... (Eric Ridgley 2000)
- Re[2]: HELP: OS X Problem... (Kenneth Grome 2000)
- Re[2]: HELP: OS X Problem... (jpeacock@univpress.com 2000)
- Re: HELP: OS X Problem... (Mike Davis 2000)
- HELP: OS X Problem... (Eric Ridgley 2000)
- Re: OS X Problem... (Eric Ridgley 2000)
- Re: OS X Problem... (Michael O Shea 2000)
- Re: OS X Problem... (Eric Ridgley 2000)
- Re: OS X Problem... (Eric Ridgley 2000)
- Re: OS X Problem... (Bob Minor 2000)
- Re: OS X Problem... (Michael O Shea 2000)
- OS X Problem... (Eric Ridgley 2000)
- Re: Large database on Mac OS X Server (Karim Ardalan 2000)
- Re: Large database on Mac OS X Server (Parker 2000)
- Large database on Mac OS X Server (Karim Ardalan 2000)
- Re: RequiredFields and MacOS X Server? (WebDNA Support 2000)
- Re: RequiredFields and MacOS X Server? (Kenneth Grome 2000)
- RequiredFields and MacOS X Server? (Parker 2000)
- Re: MacOS X upgrade pricing plan (Will Starck 1999)
- MacOS X upgrade pricing plan (Brice Le Blevennec 1999)
- Mac Os X and WebCat (Robert Kudrle 1999)
- Re: Mac OS X Server, Apache etc etc (helene 1999)
- Mac OS X Server, Apache etc etc (Marty Schmid 1999)
- Re: Question about Webcatalog and Webstar for Mac OS X (Grant Hulbert 1998)
- Question about Webcatalog and Webstar for Mac OS X (Allen Booth 1998)
- WebDNA Server 8.5.1 for Apple OS X Sierra ( WebD)
- WebDNA FastCGI 8.5.1 for Apple OS X Sierra (Chris WebD)
- WebDNA FastCGI 8.2 for Apple OS X El Capitan (Chris WebD)
- WebDNA Server 8.2 for Apple OS X El Capitan (Chris WebD)
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OK, I tried not to make this confusing, but now it's going off topic and Istill haven't gotten an answer from SM. Let me rephrase:We want to buy 4.x now, However we *Will Not* pay $3,500 for a crossgrade toOS X server (now, or in the future) so will we will not buy a OS 9 versionuntil we know that a 4.x webcat version for Webstar 5 will be a *free*upgrade for current 4.x Mac OS 9 users, and not a $3,500 'crossgrade'.Right now, to go from Mac OS to OS X server costs $3,500. What I want toknow, is what happens to current Mac licenses when the current Mac OS 'goesaway'What I need to know, in a nutshell, is if we should buy a 4.x upgrade for$1,000 or web objects for $499.We have no intention of running Apache on Macs. Frankly if I wereinterested in running Apache, I'd do it on Linux, on multi-processor, faulttolerant PC server hardware that is not currently available for OS X.-AaronYour Honor; on 6/17/00 4:00 PM, the Defendant, Anita Holmgren, confessed:> At 12:18 PM 6/17/00, Bo Hess wrote:>> on 6/17/00 7:46 AM, James Howarth wrote:>> >>> The OS X version uses Apache not WebStar. I expect that the MacOS plug-in>>> for WebStar would not work on OS X.>>>> We are currently using 3.x on Webstar. Starnine has said that they will be>>>> supporting OS X when it comes out.>>>> >>>> So, if we get a mac os 9 webcat 4.x version, will we be able to migrate it>>>> to OS X when webstar ships?>> >> He is talking about OS X consumer not OS X server. Consumer won't have>> apache or any other parts of the server, as far as I've heard. Those are>> supposed to be in a service pack that you install to upgrade to server.>> > > OS X (consumer as you call it) will include Apache.> > http://www.apple.com/macosx/inside.html> We also took the famous Apache web server-which runs over half the> websites on the Internet-and made it friendly enough to use on your> desktop for personal file sharing.> > -Anita-------------------------------------------------------------This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list .To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://search.smithmicro.com/
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