Re: Hosts who have upgraded to v5.0?

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texte = Hi Kenneth,It's a very expensive upgrade and it's nowhere close to my available budget for such an upgrade. I'd go as far as 500$US for a fully unlimited license. That's the absolute max.Unfortunately, the folks at SmithMicro seem to think we're rich, or something. They fail to see PHP's rock solid capabilities and free license (which makes a world of a difference since).Since a lot of the action on the list seems like it's slowing down, I take it that perhaps a majority of WebDNA users are already toying aroung with the thousands of PHP scripts freely available at http://hotscripts.com/ to convert everything they built with WebDNA in the past in order to have 100% PHP operations in the future.It's sad but SmithMicro can't understand the logic of small web shops like mine. They seem to think we're very rich and the only way out for us is to pay their insanely high prices and unattractive conditions (the domain limitation, namely).An alternative talk of this matter is going on at http://webmaster.mbnx.net/ but my biggest wish would be that SmithMicro woke up and got a brutal reality check: we're NOT rich! We love the language but raising the bar for us all will just kill the language by pushing everyone to something they can afford, such as PHP.God, I really hope they wake up!Here's a bit of advice: being generous will make you insanely rich. Be a grinch and you'll choke under your own paranoia that you're it. SmithMicro: please get a brain. Your sky-high prices are killing any chance for the language to seriously take off in the market. It doesn't take a genie to figure that one out but obviously, SmithMicro still isn't figuring it out...I wouldn't say all this if I wasn't madly in love in your language. I'm doing it because I care.Respectfully yours, On Sunday, March 30, 2003, at 11:12 PM, Kenneth Grome wrote:> Greetings, > > Since I've restarted my efforts to find a new hosting service for some > of my sites, and since March 31st (tomorrow) is the last day for > everyone to take advantage of the special discounts available at > SMSI's web site for upgrading to version 5.0, I'm curious: > > How many of you have actually bought an upgrade to 5.x? > > How many are waiting for later today or tomorrow before making your > last-minute decision to purchase? > > For those who have paid for this upgrade, do you offer webdna hosting > services? When do you actually plan to start using it on your hosting > server? Do you have a specific date in mind, or will you just wait > until the bugs have been found and squashed? > > I haven't seen any reports about the performance of v5.0 posted to > this list yet. Is there another (separate) list for v5 users? Has > anyone actually started using it yet? > -- > > PS: Please reply privately to kengrome@softhome.net or > kengrome@postmark.net, thanks. > > Sincerely, > Kenneth Grome > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to > > Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ > >-- Claude Gelinas, Chief Technological Officer MBNX.net - Online ServicesDirect: (418) 657-6184 Toll free: 1 866 783-2321Mailto:cgelinas@mbnx.net Visit us - http://mbnx.net/ ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ Associated Messages, from the most recent to the oldest:

    
  1. Re: Hosts who have upgraded to v5.0? (Jesse Williams-Proudman 2003)
  2. Re: Hosts who have upgraded to v5.0? (Nitai @ ComputerOil 2003)
  3. Re: Hosts who have upgraded to v5.0? (Kenneth Grome 2003)
  4. Re: Hosts who have upgraded to v5.0? (Nitai @ ComputerOil 2003)
  5. Re: Hosts who have upgraded to v5.0? (Nitai @ ComputerOil 2003)
  6. Re: Hosts who have upgraded to v5.0? (Dale's Stuff 2003)
  7. Re: Hosts who have upgraded to v5.0? (Stuart Tremain 2003)
  8. Re: Hosts who have upgraded to v5.0? (marc@kaiwi.com (Marc Kaiwi) 2003)
  9. Re: Hosts who have upgraded to v5.0? (Phillip Bonesteele 2003)
  10. Re: Hosts who have upgraded to v5.0? (Donovan 2003)
  11. Re: Hosts who have upgraded to v5.0? (John Peacock 2003)
  12. Re: Hosts who have upgraded to v5.0? (andy mowrey 2003)
  13. Re: Hosts who have upgraded to v5.0? (Phillip Bonesteele 2003)
  14. Re: Hosts who have upgraded to v5.0? (John Peacock 2003)
  15. Re: Hosts who have upgraded to v5.0? (John Peacock 2003)
  16. Re: Hosts who have upgraded to v5.0? (Claude Gelinas 2003)
  17. Re: Hosts who have upgraded to v5.0? (marc@kaiwi.com (Marc Kaiwi) 2003)
  18. Re: Hosts who have upgraded to v5.0? (Phillip Bonesteele 2003)
  19. Re: Hosts who have upgraded to v5.0? (Matthew A Perosi 2003)
  20. Re: Hosts who have upgraded to v5.0? (Matthew A Perosi 2003)
  21. Re: Hosts who have upgraded to v5.0? (Phillip Bonesteele 2003)
  22. Re: Hosts who have upgraded to v5.0? (John Peacock 2003)
  23. Re: Hosts who have upgraded to v5.0? (John Peacock 2003)
  24. Re: Hosts who have upgraded to v5.0? (Claude Gelinas 2003)
  25. Re: Hosts who have upgraded to v5.0? (Phillip Bonesteele 2003)
  26. Re: Hosts who have upgraded to v5.0? (John Peacock 2003)
  27. Hosts who have upgraded to v5.0? (Kenneth Grome 2003)
Hi Kenneth,It's a very expensive upgrade and it's nowhere close to my available budget for such an upgrade. I'd go as far as 500$US for a fully unlimited license. That's the absolute max.Unfortunately, the folks at SmithMicro seem to think we're rich, or something. They fail to see PHP's rock solid capabilities and free license (which makes a world of a difference since).Since a lot of the action on the list seems like it's slowing down, I take it that perhaps a majority of WebDNA users are already toying aroung with the thousands of PHP scripts freely available at http://hotscripts.com/ to convert everything they built with WebDNA in the past in order to have 100% PHP operations in the future.It's sad but SmithMicro can't understand the logic of small web shops like mine. They seem to think we're very rich and the only way out for us is to pay their insanely high prices and unattractive conditions (the domain limitation, namely).An alternative talk of this matter is going on at http://webmaster.mbnx.net/ but my biggest wish would be that SmithMicro woke up and got a brutal reality check: we're NOT rich! We love the language but raising the bar for us all will just kill the language by pushing everyone to something they can afford, such as PHP.God, I really hope they wake up!Here's a bit of advice: being generous will make you insanely rich. Be a grinch and you'll choke under your own paranoia that you're it. SmithMicro: please get a brain. Your sky-high prices are killing any chance for the language to seriously take off in the market. It doesn't take a genie to figure that one out but obviously, SmithMicro still isn't figuring it out...I wouldn't say all this if I wasn't madly in love in your language. I'm doing it because I care.Respectfully yours, On Sunday, March 30, 2003, at 11:12 PM, Kenneth Grome wrote:> Greetings, > > Since I've restarted my efforts to find a new hosting service for some > of my sites, and since March 31st (tomorrow) is the last day for > everyone to take advantage of the special discounts available at > SMSI's web site for upgrading to version 5.0, I'm curious: > > How many of you have actually bought an upgrade to 5.x? > > How many are waiting for later today or tomorrow before making your > last-minute decision to purchase? > > For those who have paid for this upgrade, do you offer webdna hosting > services? When do you actually plan to start using it on your hosting > server? Do you have a specific date in mind, or will you just wait > until the bugs have been found and squashed? > > I haven't seen any reports about the performance of v5.0 posted to > this list yet. Is there another (separate) list for v5 users? Has > anyone actually started using it yet? > -- > > PS: Please reply privately to kengrome@softhome.net or > kengrome@postmark.net, thanks. > > Sincerely, > Kenneth Grome > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to > > Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ > >-- Claude Gelinas, Chief Technological Officer MBNX.net - Online ServicesDirect: (418) 657-6184 Toll free: 1 866 783-2321Mailto:cgelinas@mbnx.net Visit us - http://mbnx.net/ ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ Claude Gelinas

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