Re: Hosts who have upgraded to v5.0?

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texte = On 31.3.2003 21:09 Uhr, Marc Kaiwi wrote:> The fact is that SmithMicro has priced me right out of their product > and I'm mad about it. I purchased WebCatalog (several licenses in fact) > at a premium price under the assumption that it was a good product and > one that I would continue to develop, promote and upgrade. > > Unfortunately SmithMicro is in fact dropping the products I purchased, > repackaging the same product and trying to sell it back to me again at > a premium price as if it were some kind of new program all together. > Some might argue that it is indeed a new product but when I look at, > It's the same software in a new box.?????We have purchased the first WebCatalog license at $3495!Since then we have done some upgrades at $500.Now have purchased the upgrade to 5.x for $995.I donıt understand how you can say that they have priced you out?First of all their entry level product is FREE. So keep on developing and host with somebody else, or let you customers buy a license if they need to run their own server.Also you have missed, but as Phil already pointed out, the price of $4000 is for the Enterprise Edition. You guys are always saying you donıt need this and that, well then get the Developer for free or the Partner Edition. No one has said you have to get the Enterprise Edition.I am actually tired of this complaining. If you are in business for real then costs like this are normal. At least I donıt hear anybody complaining about Cold Fusion's pricing matrix, which is actually steep if you need more then just the language. But still there are tones of CF solutions.For years I have read on this list that there is no Marketing, that the developers are not listening and that the price is to high. Now SMSI is listening to us, they are trying to do some Marketing and they came down with the price.The amazing thing is, that you guys are still whining about it. I would suggest that you sit back and look at the economy for a moment and then rethink.Sincerely, Nitai Aventaggiato CEO-- Tools to energize your business Content Management & eBusiness SystemsComputerOil GmbH http://computeroil.com/ Unionstrasse 4 info@computeroil.com 8032 Zürich/Switzerland Tel: +41 (0)43 333 1 555 ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ Associated Messages, from the most recent to the oldest:

    
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  2. Re: Hosts who have upgraded to v5.0? (Nitai @ ComputerOil 2003)
  3. Re: Hosts who have upgraded to v5.0? (Kenneth Grome 2003)
  4. Re: Hosts who have upgraded to v5.0? (Nitai @ ComputerOil 2003)
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  8. Re: Hosts who have upgraded to v5.0? (marc@kaiwi.com (Marc Kaiwi) 2003)
  9. Re: Hosts who have upgraded to v5.0? (Phillip Bonesteele 2003)
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  11. Re: Hosts who have upgraded to v5.0? (John Peacock 2003)
  12. Re: Hosts who have upgraded to v5.0? (andy mowrey 2003)
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  17. Re: Hosts who have upgraded to v5.0? (marc@kaiwi.com (Marc Kaiwi) 2003)
  18. Re: Hosts who have upgraded to v5.0? (Phillip Bonesteele 2003)
  19. Re: Hosts who have upgraded to v5.0? (Matthew A Perosi 2003)
  20. Re: Hosts who have upgraded to v5.0? (Matthew A Perosi 2003)
  21. Re: Hosts who have upgraded to v5.0? (Phillip Bonesteele 2003)
  22. Re: Hosts who have upgraded to v5.0? (John Peacock 2003)
  23. Re: Hosts who have upgraded to v5.0? (John Peacock 2003)
  24. Re: Hosts who have upgraded to v5.0? (Claude Gelinas 2003)
  25. Re: Hosts who have upgraded to v5.0? (Phillip Bonesteele 2003)
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  27. Hosts who have upgraded to v5.0? (Kenneth Grome 2003)
On 31.3.2003 21:09 Uhr, Marc Kaiwi wrote:> The fact is that SmithMicro has priced me right out of their product > and I'm mad about it. I purchased WebCatalog (several licenses in fact) > at a premium price under the assumption that it was a good product and > one that I would continue to develop, promote and upgrade. > > Unfortunately SmithMicro is in fact dropping the products I purchased, > repackaging the same product and trying to sell it back to me again at > a premium price as if it were some kind of new program all together. > Some might argue that it is indeed a new product but when I look at, > It's the same software in a new box.?????We have purchased the first WebCatalog license at $3495!Since then we have done some upgrades at $500.Now have purchased the upgrade to 5.x for $995.I donıt understand how you can say that they have priced you out?First of all their entry level product is FREE. So keep on developing and host with somebody else, or let you customers buy a license if they need to run their own server.Also you have missed, but as Phil already pointed out, the price of $4000 is for the Enterprise Edition. You guys are always saying you donıt need this and that, well then get the Developer for free or the Partner Edition. No one has said you have to get the Enterprise Edition.I am actually tired of this complaining. If you are in business for real then costs like this are normal. At least I donıt hear anybody complaining about Cold Fusion's pricing matrix, which is actually steep if you need more then just the language. But still there are tones of CF solutions.For years I have read on this list that there is no Marketing, that the developers are not listening and that the price is to high. Now SMSI is listening to us, they are trying to do some Marketing and they came down with the price.The amazing thing is, that you guys are still whining about it. I would suggest that you sit back and look at the economy for a moment and then rethink.Sincerely, Nitai Aventaggiato CEO-- Tools to energize your business Content Management & eBusiness SystemsComputerOil GmbH http://computeroil.com/ Unionstrasse 4 info@computeroil.com 8032 Zürich/Switzerland Tel: +41 (0)43 333 1 555 ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ Nitai @ ComputerOil

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