Re: Hosts who have upgraded to v5.0?
This WebDNA talk-list message is from 2003
It keeps the original formatting.
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texte = I have to add to this. I agree, and I'm very upset about it.The fact is that SmithMicro has priced me right out of their product and I'm mad about it. I purchased WebCatalog (several licenses in fact) at a premium price under the assumption that it was a good product and one that I would continue to develop, promote and upgrade.Unfortunately SmithMicro is in fact dropping the products I purchased, repackaging the same product and trying to sell it back to me again at a premium price as if it were some kind of new program all together. Some might argue that it is indeed a new product but when I look at, It's the same software in a new box.I couldn't begin to suggest or talk about marketing strategy because I don't know anything about it. All I see as an end user of this product is that, as it turns out it would seem that it was a bad choice on my part to invest the time and money in SmithMicro's product in the first place only to have them price me right out of the market.I won't make the same mistake again with SM. I may have to discontinue any further WebDNA upgrades but that won't stop me from developing new software with what ever tools are available to me and the fact is I don't really care who's name is on the tool box i use but unfortunately it doesn't look like it's going to be SmithMicro.SIDE BAR: The whole issue of the new product marketing and pricing has been a joke from the beginning. I've read (on this list) many hundreds if not thousands of words from SM's crack sales team packed full of all kinds of dynamic sounding techno sales jargon and it still took hundreds of emails back and forth from SM and folks on this list to figure out how much the thing would cost!! Come on! Sheeshhh.: c)Thanks,MK On Monday, March 31, 2003, at 09:06 AM, Claude Gelinas wrote:> Hi Kenneth, > > It's a very expensive upgrade and it's nowhere close to my available > budget for such an upgrade. I'd go as far as 500$US for a fully > unlimited license. That's the absolute max. > > Unfortunately, the folks at SmithMicro seem to think we're rich, or > something. They fail to see PHP's rock solid capabilities and free > license (which makes a world of a difference since). > > Since a lot of the action on the list seems like it's slowing down, I > take it that perhaps a majority of WebDNA users are already toying > aroung with the thousands of PHP scripts freely available at > http://hotscripts.com/ to convert everything they built with WebDNA in > the past in order to have 100% PHP operations in the future. > > It's sad but SmithMicro can't understand the logic of small web shops > like mine. They seem to think we're very rich and the only way out for > us is to pay their insanely high prices and unattractive conditions > (the domain limitation, namely). > > An alternative talk of this matter is going on at > http://webmaster.mbnx.net/ but my biggest wish would be that > SmithMicro woke up and got a brutal reality check: we're NOT rich! We > love the language but raising the bar for us all will just kill the > language by pushing everyone to something they can afford, such as > PHP. > > God, I really hope they wake up! > > Here's a bit of advice: being generous will make you insanely rich. Be > a grinch and you'll choke under your own paranoia that you're it. > SmithMicro: please get a brain. Your sky-high prices are killing any > chance for the language to seriously take off in the market. It > doesn't take a genie to figure that one out but obviously, SmithMicro > still isn't figuring it out... > > I wouldn't say all this if I wasn't madly in love in your language. > I'm doing it because I care. > > Respectfully yours,Signed: Marc Kaiwi ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list
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I have to add to this. I agree, and I'm very upset about it.The fact is that SmithMicro has priced me right out of their product and I'm mad about it. I purchased WebCatalog (several licenses in fact) at a premium price under the assumption that it was a good product and one that I would continue to develop, promote and upgrade.Unfortunately SmithMicro is in fact dropping the products I purchased, repackaging the same product and trying to sell it back to me again at a premium price as if it were some kind of new program all together. Some might argue that it is indeed a new product but when I look at, It's the same software in a new box.I couldn't begin to suggest or talk about marketing strategy because I don't know anything about it. All I see as an end user of this product is that, as it turns out it would seem that it was a bad choice on my part to invest the time and money in SmithMicro's product in the first place only to have them price me right out of the market.I won't make the same mistake again with SM. I may have to discontinue any further WebDNA upgrades but that won't stop me from developing new software with what ever tools are available to me and the fact is I don't really care who's name is on the tool box i use but unfortunately it doesn't look like it's going to be SmithMicro.SIDE BAR: The whole issue of the new product marketing and pricing has been a joke from the beginning. I've read (on this list) many hundreds if not thousands of words from SM's crack sales team packed full of all kinds of dynamic sounding techno sales jargon and it still took hundreds of emails back and forth from SM and folks on this list to figure out how much the thing would cost!! Come on! Sheeshhh.: c)Thanks,MK On Monday, March 31, 2003, at 09:06 AM, Claude Gelinas wrote:> Hi Kenneth, > > It's a very expensive upgrade and it's nowhere close to my available > budget for such an upgrade. I'd go as far as 500$US for a fully > unlimited license. That's the absolute max. > > Unfortunately, the folks at SmithMicro seem to think we're rich, or > something. They fail to see PHP's rock solid capabilities and free > license (which makes a world of a difference since). > > Since a lot of the action on the list seems like it's slowing down, I > take it that perhaps a majority of WebDNA users are already toying > aroung with the thousands of PHP scripts freely available at > http://hotscripts.com/ to convert everything they built with WebDNA in > the past in order to have 100% PHP operations in the future. > > It's sad but SmithMicro can't understand the logic of small web shops > like mine. They seem to think we're very rich and the only way out for > us is to pay their insanely high prices and unattractive conditions > (the domain limitation, namely). > > An alternative talk of this matter is going on at > http://webmaster.mbnx.net/ but my biggest wish would be that > SmithMicro woke up and got a brutal reality check: we're NOT rich! We > love the language but raising the bar for us all will just kill the > language by pushing everyone to something they can afford, such as > PHP. > > God, I really hope they wake up! > > Here's a bit of advice: being generous will make you insanely rich. Be > a grinch and you'll choke under your own paranoia that you're it. > SmithMicro: please get a brain. Your sky-high prices are killing any > chance for the language to seriously take off in the market. It > doesn't take a genie to figure that one out but obviously, SmithMicro > still isn't figuring it out... > > I wouldn't say all this if I wasn't madly in love in your language. > I'm doing it because I care. > > Respectfully yours,Signed: Marc Kaiwi ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/
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